New Labour Leader

[Foxy2600 306]

9 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

So is he going to build on green belt land?

Of course! As the population expands, where else is there to go?

[king canary 7,703]

14 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

So is he going to build on green belt land?

Yes. generally areas of the green belt that aren't actually very green- ie bits that have seen previous development such as car parks. 

[Mello Yello 2,315]

12 minutes ago, king canary said:

Yes. generally areas of the green belt that aren't actually very green- ie bits that have seen previous development such as car parks. 

There's one likely to become available near Luton Airport....

Edited October 11, 2023 by Mello Yello
too early?...

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

21 minutes ago, king canary said:

Yes. generally areas of the green belt that aren't actually very green- ie bits that have seen previous development such as car parks. 

Isn't that bad for the environment?

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

9 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

Isn't that bad for the environment?

What people not having adequate housing?

I don't think he quite realises how much affordable homes are. First Homes, which is where they must aim first is 30% the general market values. So here in Cornwall, the standard seems to be 1 in 5 but developers want it 1 in 10. And if its not shared ownership, people are looking to find deposits on £150-200K in some cases.

[king canary 7,703]

1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

Isn't that bad for the environment?

Excited for a lot more deeply disingenuous questions.

[KiwiScot 1,491]

Did anyone pick up any mention of council housing within any of this grand project?

 

[A Load of Squit 5,240]

5 minutes ago, KiwiScot said:

Did anyone pick up any mention of council housing within any of this grand project?

 

https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/sector-welcomes-starmers-plan-for-15-million-homes-83462

Sir Keir’s commitments sum up a conference led by housing announcements. On Sunday, Angela Rayner pledged “the biggest boost in affordable and social housing for a generation”.

[Barbe bleu 837]

“The Green Belt is a Labour achievement – and we mean to build on it.”

— John Prescott

[Barbe bleu 837]

3 hours ago, king canary said:

Yes. generally areas of the green belt that aren't actually very green- ie bits that have seen previous development such as car parks. 

Car parks (and other bits of previously developed land) are not currently subject to the full force of current green belt rules, this from the national planning  policy framework:

" A local planning authority should regard the construction of new buildings as inappropriate in the Green Belt. Exceptions to this are....limited infilling or the partial or complete redevelopment of previously developed 
land, whether redundant or in continuing use (excluding temporary buildings), 
which would:
‒ not have a greater impact on the openness of the Green Belt than the 
existing development; or
‒ not cause substantial harm to the openness of the Green Belt, where the 
development would re-use previously developed land and contribute to 
meeting an identified affordable housing need within the area of the local 
planning authority.

 

If this is a serious policy statement (its not uncommon for politicians to claim to want to build millions of houses and new new towns) then some actual green fields and arable land will probably have to go.

 

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

4 hours ago, Barbe bleu said:

Car parks (and other bits of previously developed land) are not currently subject to the full force of current green belt rules, this from the national planning  policy framework:

" A local planning authority should regard the construction of new buildings as inappropriate in the Green Belt. Exceptions to this are....limited infilling or the partial or complete redevelopment of previously developed 
land, whether redundant or in continuing use (excluding temporary buildings), 
which would:
‒ not have a greater impact on the openness of the Green Belt than the 
existing development; or
‒ not cause substantial harm to the openness of the Green Belt, where the 
development would re-use previously developed land and contribute to 
meeting an identified affordable housing need within the area of the local 
planning authority.

 

If this is a serious policy statement (its not uncommon for politicians to claim to want to build millions of houses and new new towns) then some actual green fields and arable land will probably have to go.

 

Alternatively, we could send a million plus people back home and save all those green fields and arable land for our grandchildren to enjoy. 

[Herman 9,857]

5 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

Alternatively, we could send a million plus people back home and save all those green fields and arable land for our grandchildren to enjoy. 

And we're back to square one ffs.

[king canary 7,703]

4 hours ago, Herman said:

And we're back to square one ffs.

Yes, shockingly enough the Labour party position on housing is not mass deportation of immigrants. Who could have seen that coming?

 

Edited October 12, 2023 by king canary

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

10 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

Alternatively, we could send a million plus people back home and save all those green fields and arable land for our grandchildren to enjoy. 

Is that what they call XBoxes now? Green fields?

[PurpleCanary 5,601]

On 11/10/2023 at 01:12, Well b back said:

Stop making s*** up about me there’s a good little boy.

I never said either did or didn’t make it up. I said until there is evidence and if there is now evidence then fair enough. I doubt wether Israel used chemical weapons, but that is what is being claimed. Both are equally horrifying and any baby or child would be an innocent party, from either side. So yes I stand by my remarks and I pray for the children of both sides who have been dragged into this as they are all innocent parties.

Several photos, videos, and claims on social media allege that Israeli forces are using white phosphorous on the civilian population of Gaza.

The Washington Post, hardly anti-Israeli, now has a credible report that white phosphorous has been used this week.

[Nuff Said 5,242]

On 12/10/2023 at 01:00, Rock The Boat said:

Alternatively, we could send a million plus people back home and save all those green fields and arable land for our grandchildren to enjoy. 

Just what the economy needs. One million plus fewer people of working age, filling vacancies and paying tax.

[Well b back 3,309]

On 12/10/2023 at 01:00, Rock The Boat said:

Alternatively, we could send a million plus people back home and save all those green fields and arable land for our grandchildren to enjoy. 

Blimey, won’t be many of the new recruits to the NHS left.

[Well b back 3,309]

31 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

The Washington Post, hardly anti-Israeli, now has a credible report that white phosphorous has been used this week.

Thanks for that Purple. 
It does seem to verify it and beginning to pick up momentum. Let’s hope they have somehow got it wrong.

[NFN FC 1,123]

On 12/10/2023 at 01:00, Rock The Boat said:

Alternatively, we could send a million plus people back home and save all those green fields and arable land for our grandchildren to enjoy. 

N0bsock

[Nuff Said 5,242]

31 minutes ago, NFN FC said:

N0bsock

Short and to the point. 👍

[Daz Sparks 1,204]

15 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

Short and to the point. 👍

Hard to disagree with also springs to mind?

[littleyellowbirdie 2,613]

https://news.sky.com/story/sir-keir-starmer-seeks-to-clarify-gaza-remarks-following-backlash-from-labour-councillors-12988235

Keir Starmer is getting a lot of flack over supportive comments towards Israel from the more Corbyn-leaning parts of the party. Owen Jones has been really laying into him on Twitter.

[king canary 7,703]

On 21/10/2023 at 18:11, littleyellowbirdie said:

https://news.sky.com/story/sir-keir-starmer-seeks-to-clarify-gaza-remarks-following-backlash-from-labour-councillors-12988235

Keir Starmer is getting a lot of flack over supportive comments towards Israel from the more Corbyn-leaning parts of the party. Owen Jones has been really laying into him on Twitter.

Which is why its good they've been relegated to irrelevance at this point. 

[littleyellowbirdie 2,613]

9 hours ago, king canary said:

Which is why its good they've been relegated to irrelevance at this point. 

Maybe. Resignations from Muslim Labour councillors complaining the party is no longer a safe place for them.

https://www.channel4.com/news/more-than-20-labour-councillors-resign-following-starmers-israel-comment

I can well imagine Starmer will be very keen for some peace in the Middle East before the next election at this rate. I must confess to feeling sorry for him to have this to contend with after having dealt with the antisemitism problems so well.

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

He's not wrong:

 

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

Can't even muster a sincere apology, the lying little toad:

 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

10 minutes ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

He's not wrong:

 

David Starkey, twice a losing Conservative candidate.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

10 minutes ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

Can't even muster a sincere apology, the lying little toad:

 

But he took £5K from Russia Today. Lower than a snake's belly.

Edited October 26, 2023 by keelansgrandad

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

Literally, too thick for words...

[Well b back 3,309]

51 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

David Starkey, twice a losing Conservative candidate.

It says Blair, but he blames the Tories he should make his mind up lol

Edited October 26, 2023 by Well b back