Yellowhammer 86 Posted November 9, 2019 Worried to see that the players thought we dominated the game and DF thought we should have won, maybe DF should watch from the standsĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted November 9, 2019 We had plenty of possession and did get into several dangerous situations, and probably deserved the equaliser before half time, on balance we were the better team in the first half.Ā Ā Second half we offered nothing and it was comfortable for Watford, even with 10 men Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,300 Posted November 9, 2019 We did in terms of slow build up play, moving the ball along the back four and occasionally down the left threatened their defence, ultimately you can have 60 odd % of possession but if you are a goal down move the ball so slowly you wonāt score. Its very much like Farkeās first season, keeping possession without looking too threatening and conceding soft goals. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 26 Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) Having possession is not dominating a game, it is worrying that the players think they dominated the match. We have seen time and time again that teams in this leagueĀ playing away from homeĀ are happy to drop off into shape and allow the opposition to have possession and try and counter attack, for all of our posession Watford were comfortable and were happy to just let us build the play slowly in front of them.Ā So well done lads you has more possession against a side that were happy to let you have the ball š Edited November 9, 2019 by Alex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,672 Posted November 9, 2019 On balance we were the better side so no issues with what hes saying. After that suicidal start we actually done well to recover. But give away cheap goals like that and you'll never win.Ā But no issues with saying we were the better side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted November 9, 2019 We should have been the better side, we were playing at home against the worst side in the league. Perhaps marginally we played the better alround football but created very little. There are absolutely no positives to take from that performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,606 Posted November 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, hogesar said: On balance we were the better side so no issues with what hes saying. After that suicidal start we actually done well to recover. But give away cheap goals like that and you'll never win.Ā But no issues with saying we were the better side. I'm not sure we were the better side. We got into some nice positions but struggled to create chances that weren't long range pot shots. Xg shows 0.62 for us Vs 1.36 for Watford. We had more of the ball but they used it a lot better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peanuts 150 Posted November 9, 2019 Never in a million years were we the better side. They let us have the ball in non threatening areas and time and again we came forward andĀ failed to create a decent chance. In contrast practically every time WatfordĀ countered they could have had it in the net. Against better finishingĀ weād have been on the end of another thrashing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted November 9, 2019 Did anyone of a Norwich persuasion genuinely believe after the game that we deserved to win it? Anyone who says yes didn't watch the match. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelm Canary 404 Posted November 9, 2019 We didn't even dominate when they went down to 10......well maybe got about 3 minutes.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted November 9, 2019 I will say it until I am blue in the face. Our final pass or cross is very poor and I am positive is the reason we are in this mess. As good as Onel can be and was at times last night, he vary rarely had the killer ball in. But to be fair to him, his targets were limited. I thought first half we were OK and at times exciting. But as has been said second half was very much 2017/18. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 26 Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Capt. Pants said: We should have been the better side, we were playing at home against the worst side in the league. Perhaps marginally we played the better alround football but created very little. There are absolutely no positives to take from that performance. To be honest I am not that sure Watford are the worst side in the league, admittedlyĀ they have hadĀ a really bad start to the season but they have some quality players. They basicallyĀ have the same team that challenged for a Europa spot and reached the FA Cup Final last season.Ā I didn't think they were particularly great last night but I wouldn't say we were better they allowed us to have the ball andĀ were more organised tha we were, for all our possession they probably created the better chances and it showed that they have more premier league experience.Ā Edited November 9, 2019 by Alex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,293 Posted November 9, 2019 I thought last nights weather was better than our performance..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted November 9, 2019 Do you wish we were Sheffield United? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,534 Posted November 9, 2019 No. Do you? Always been proud to be a Canary... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted November 9, 2019 Stevie WonderĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted November 9, 2019 8 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: I will say it until I am blue in the face. Our final pass or cross is very poor and I am positive is the reason we are in this mess. As good as Onel can be and was at times last night, he vary rarely had the killer ball in. But to be fair to him, his targets were limited. I thought first half we were OK and at times exciting. But as has been said second half was very much 2017/18. Some of Onel's crosses are hit harder than his shots on goal! There was one which I think went straight for a throw in without bouncing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted November 9, 2019 Do you wish we were Sheffield United? Maybe Kings Lynn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,534 Posted November 9, 2019 Wishing we were Sheffield Utd could be my favourite post as everybody tries to outdoom each other but last night someone wanted to support a club that challenges for silverware.... Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, nutty nigel said: No. Do you? Always been proud to be a Canary... Ā Certainly not but I have to hand it to Chris Wilder and his players as they have made the step up to date so much better than Villa and us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,534 Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Crafty Canary said: Ā Certainly not but I have to hand it to Chris Wilder and his players as they have made the step up to date so much better than Villa and us. The best place to do that is the Blades forum though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted November 9, 2019 And they have done despite the club ownership fiasco played through the courts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted November 9, 2019 By saying that we dominated the game, what our players actually mean is that we had more possession, which we did. They seem to have been brainwashed into believing that possession is everything. It isn't. There is no point in dominating the possession if (a) you don't do anything with that possession (which we don't) or (b) eventually run into a dead end and gift possession, and easy chances, to the opposition (which we do) The whole squad is obsessed with possession so much so that they (particularly Aarons & Lewis) are quite happy to get as far as the opposing penalty area, turn round, go back and pass the ball all the way back into our half. It is happening far too often. Great for the possession stats but contributes absolutely nothing in creating goal scoring chances. We need to be more direct. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, nutty nigel said: The best place to do that is the Blades forum though... Not really. This forum is the right place for a comparison with ourselves Iād have thought. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,534 Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Crafty Canary said: Not really. This forum is the right place for a comparison with ourselves Iād have thought. So do you think anyone does wish we were Sheffield Utd? Edited November 9, 2019 by nutty nigel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,534 Posted November 9, 2019 Crafty, if we were to be Sheffield Utd we would have to have been them last season. I thought they were the strongest side in the champs last season and I thought we played the best football. Over the 46 games we came out on top and have the silverware to prove it. Both teams have taken their identity on to the PL this season and it's worked out better for them. But we don't have the players to mimic them. Our players suit the way we play.Ā I suspect some do wish we were them. I think a lot of fans don't like the way we play. The only time it hasn't been criticised was when we were winning most weeks and even then some fans around me got frustrated by "tippy tappy". Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Half Ar5ed Hipster 82 Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, nutty nigel said: outdoom That, for me, is word of the week. And Iām going to add it to my lexicon. Never thought of it and itās fantastic!Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 755 Posted November 9, 2019 12 hours ago, king canary said: I'm not sure we were the better side. We got into some nice positions but struggled to create chances that weren't long range pot shots. Xg shows 0.62 for us Vs 1.36 for Watford. We had more of the ball but they used it a lot better. Ā 12 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Did anyone of a Norwich persuasion genuinely believe after the game that we deserved to win it? Anyone who says yes didn't watch the match. Ā 11 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: I will say it until I am blue in the face. Our final pass or cross is very poor and I am positive is the reason we are in this mess. Agree with all of the above. KG, interesting you say this. I have started to think for a little while now that maybe our biggest āmistakeā (if you want to call it that) in the summer transfer window was not bringing in a tricky attacking midfielder. We were always going to concede goals, but our philosophy over the last year or so has effectively been to outscore the opposition. In this division, we are a bit one dimensional. If you nullify Aarons and Lewis getting forward, we donāt seem to have a lot. There was one spell last night where we had possession on the left and it kept going up and down the left wing, and on four occasions I was shouting out for someone to have moved into āthe holeā between Watfordās midfield and defence more centrally. Nobody ever did and play broke down eventually. At times we seemed to be playing a flat attacking four with six behind. Nobody gets on the ball in the middle and dictates. This means the defence end up having to play it amongst themselves and we then shift it down the line.Ā Ā Stiepermann has value in his height and strength, but isnāt creative. Buendia has flattered to deceive, and the rest arenāt technically tricky enough to sit in behind Pukki. That tricky player would have been expensive, but maybe in January if we can identify a youngster who can do it then we ought to consider it. Might not be enough to keep us up, but would be a good investment for next year anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,984 Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Aggy said: Ā Ā Agree with all of the above. KG, interesting you say this. I have started to think for a little while now that maybe our biggest āmistakeā (if you want to call it that) in the summer transfer window was not bringing in a tricky attacking midfielder. We were always going to concede goals, but our philosophy over the last year or so has effectively been to outscore the opposition. In this division, we are a bit one dimensional. If you nullify Aarons and Lewis getting forward, we donāt seem to have a lot. There was one spell last night where we had possession on the left and it kept going up and down the left wing, and on four occasions I was shouting out for someone to have moved into āthe holeā between Watfordās midfield and defence more centrally. Nobody ever did and play broke down eventually. At times we seemed to be playing a flat attacking four with six behind. Nobody gets on the ball in the middle and dictates. This means the defence end up having to play it amongst themselves and we then shift it down the line.Ā Ā Stiepermann has value in his height and strength, but isnāt creative. Buendia has flattered to deceive, and the rest arenāt technically tricky enough to sit in behind Pukki. That tricky player would have been expensive, but maybe in January if we can identify a youngster who can do it then we ought to consider it. Might not be enough to keep us up, but would be a good investment for next year anyway. If we wouldnāt spend even a modest amount in the summer what makes you think we might in January ? More likely to sell Iād imagine .Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, nutty nigel said: Crafty, if we were to be Sheffield Utd we would have to have been them last season. I thought they were the strongest side in the champs last season and I thought we played the best football. Over the 46 games we came out on top and have the silverware to prove it. Both teams have taken their identity on to the PL this season and it's worked out better for them. But we don't have the players to mimic them. Our players suit the way we play.Ā I suspect some do wish we were them. I think a lot of fans don't like the way we play. The only time it hasn't been criticised was when we were winning most weeks and even then some fans around me got frustrated by "tippy tappy". Ā Nutty, I agree we played the best football in the Championship last season and the Blades were strong and, unlike Leeds, didnāt choke at the tail end of the season.Ā Where I feel they have the advantage over us is they are able to play in a variety of waysĀ depending on their opponents whereas we have plan A only. When we are on top of out game we can outscoreĀ other teams and the football is wonderful to watch however the Blades more pragmatic approach means they concede less and so stay in games better and can pick up points even when they might not play particularly well. Either way we are Canary fans and for better or poorer always will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites