nutty nigel 7,645 Posted September 19, 2015 .... By not ever offering the managers job to Lennon. I see Bolton once again struggling near the bottom of the champs having been tonked at Huddersfield who previously couldn''t buy a home win. Seems to me after a brief honeymoon period when he arrived Bolton have not progressed at all under his management.Our board were lambasted for not appointing him here. Some even insisted that McNally wanted Lennon but was over ruled by others. I''ve never seen anything to suggest there''s any truth in this. In fact there''s nothing to suggest Lennon would have done better than Adams or Neil. Imagine the board never seriously considered him. It''s easy if you try.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted September 19, 2015 Nice one Nutty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hucks6 169 Posted September 19, 2015 Good point Nutty. I for one wanted him here as I have said on previous thread but did our board make the right choice by God they did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,469 Posted September 19, 2015 Highland still thinks he''s the right man for the job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 99 Posted September 19, 2015 So glad we didn''t sign him, personally i do not like the man, massively overrated and was very lucky to be Celtic manager at the right time, when rest of Scottish football was in a real state of disarray. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FCC 77 Posted September 19, 2015 Tim Sherwood not looking to clever either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrow89 0 Posted September 19, 2015 You would have to be extremely fast to dodge a bullet. There would be very little time between it being fired and you deciding which way to move, And then moving. Maybe we should have this bullet dodger on the pitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,402 Posted September 19, 2015 I wanted him at the time and whose to say that it would have worked out differently here. As things stand getting AN instead was the right move.[Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted September 19, 2015 Who knows Nutty! Different players, different club, different hierarchy, who''s to tell whether he would have been good or bad for us!Glad we''ve got Sir Alex, but to try an compare managers to different clubs is rather obtuse! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,645 Posted September 19, 2015 Yes of course it could have been different. You only have to see those managers who were good for us but failed at other clubs to understand that. But the thing with Lennon was that nobody else seemed to want him. Finally Bolton came in. And as we''ve seen Bolton aren''t really a club going places. Yet it was believedby many that he only had to turn up here to be a success. Looks like once again our board called it right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz 0 Posted September 19, 2015 I was a Lennon fan.................I''m glad I was wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldRobert 38 Posted September 19, 2015 [quote user="Wiz"]I was a Lennon fan.................I''m glad I was wrong.[/quote]Snap...................but then as I''m you I would be wouldn''t I?[;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,645 Posted September 19, 2015 I don''t think it''s about people being wrong. The only thing that matters is it looks as though our board were right. They''re the ones that matter and by hook or by crook they keep getting it right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,186 Posted September 19, 2015 Amen to that NN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,209 Posted September 19, 2015 I wouldn''t have minded Lennon and he was number two for me after Mackay.Ecstatic the ways things panned put though. who could now wish for a better outcome?Probably unfair to judge Neil Lennon on the Bolton job alone as that club are nearly £140m in debt which would leave any manager with little scope.Debt is always a sheet anchor to progress in the end, however it is dressed up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz 0 Posted September 19, 2015 [quote user="OldRobert"][quote user="Wiz"]I was a Lennon fan.................I''m glad I was wrong.[/quote]Snap...................but then as I''m you I would be wouldn''t I?[;)][/quote]Giggle. [IMG]http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/hahaha-024.gif[/IMG] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie Borkins 1 Posted September 19, 2015 [quote user="nutty nigel"]They''re the ones that matter and by hook or by crook they keep getting it right.[/quote]Hmm. Getting it right since July 2009. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 762 Posted September 19, 2015 To be fair I think Bolton were totally screwed well before Lennon showed up. The season they went down they sold Gary Cahill and bought no one and have collosal debts (£168 million). The sole reason they aren''t another Portsmouth is that Eddie Davies is propping them up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted September 19, 2015 I didn''t want himpeople were basing him off success at Celtic but surely that’s the easiest job in the world... (Aberdeen might disagree this season though.. here''s hoping they can last the pace!)Pretty much anyone could win with Celtic.. it''s interesting that very few managers leave Celtic and are successful elsewhere.Lennon will never get a premiership job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 711 Posted September 19, 2015 He was my first choice and goes to show how wrong you can be. I can''t think of anyone I would swap AN for. We may have a real gem on our hands.Just a qualifier though that sometimes a manager doesn''t fit a specific club. Look a hughton at Brighton. He''s been a success everywhere except here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,586 Posted September 19, 2015 [quote user="nutty nigel"].... By not ever offering the managers job to Lennon. I see Bolton once again struggling near the bottom of the champs having been tonked at Huddersfield who previously couldn''t buy a home win. Seems to me after a brief honeymoon period when he arrived Bolton have not progressed at all under his management.Our board were lambasted for not appointing him here. Some even insisted that McNally wanted Lennon but was over ruled by others. I''ve never seen anything to suggest there''s any truth in this. In fact there''s nothing to suggest Lennon would have done better than Adams or Neil. Imagine the board never seriously considered him. It''s easy if you try..[/quote]Nutty, I don''t think we dodged a bullet because, as you say, there was never any indication we were after Lennon. There were some posters who assumed he had to be our choice and that he would walk into the job (just as later some posters assumed it was bound to be Phelan) and some posters (not always the same) who clamoured for it to be Lennon.The statistics on his time at Bolton do rather back up the view some of us who didn''t see Lennon as so obvious a choice held that he is one of those managers who comes into a club and re-energises it. For a while. A bit like Stuart Pearce. But then the lack of tactical nous shows through. In his first 13 games, seven wins, three draws and three defeats, at 1.84 points per game. In the last 30, six wins, 11 draws and 13 losses, at 0.96 ppg.To be fair to Lennon, Bolton are in debt, albeit to their owner, but his more recent performance pretty much explodes the mantra we had here from one or two posters, that with him as manager we would have been absolute certainties for a top-two spot. The way Bolton have fallen away just doesn''t bear that out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted September 20, 2015 When he was at Celtic it was impossible to judge as they had little competition albeit this season they have. Bolton was a strange appointment as they are a club on the slide and he has done little to change this course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 0 Posted September 20, 2015 Wasn''t ever convinced by him. He''s won titles in Scotland but they''ll be forever tainted by the fact they were never won against a full strength Rangers side. His first title, coinciding with when the club was falling apart financially and then they have been out of the picture ever since. In the board''s defence, whilst Adams was a poor appointment , but there weren''t any real candidates at that time who leapt out and excited me. I think ultimately that was why they persisted with Hughton for far too long in the first place. Neil was a brave and massive punt and it looks to have come in handsomely. Alls well that ends well as they say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites