Is it time to try Snodgrass 'in the hole'?

[unique 466]

Whilst you can''t fault Hoolahan''s workrate and endeavour, the Wigan game aside, he has produced just one assist all season. He pirouettes with the best of them, but Norwich suddenly need a little more than that.

Snodgrass''s confidence seems sky high, and with his ability to go down if a defender so much as breathes on him, could most likely earn a plethora of freekicks in dangerously central positions.

Bennett must be champing at the bit to get a consistent run down the right flank, and would add much needed pace to the attacking line.

There would be nothing to lose by trying it judging by recent results.

[mrs miggins 0]

i believe we tried him there at the start but it didn''t really work out, perhaps give it another go

 

---------------------bunn----------------                                                  

martin-------bennett--bassong---garrido

--bennet----------tettey-----------pilks--

---------snodders-------hoolahan--------

--------------------holt--------------------

 

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[Bws Cat 0]

I don''t see what he''s done wrong in his current position.

[priceyrice 133]

[quote user="mrs miggins"]

i believe we tried him there at the start but it didn''t really work out, perhaps give it another go

 

---------------------bunn----------------                                                  

martin-------bennett--bassong---garrido

--bennet----------tettey-----------pilks--

---------snodders-------hoolahan--------

--------------------holt--------------------

 

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[/quote]

I like this formation but i would be inclined to play pilks instead of Wes and Johnson in the pilks position

[star_manic 0]

i think it is time that Wes was given a rest. his performances lately have been pretty poor and his creative side seems to have disappeared completely. he is fairly decent in possession but then does nothing with it, except a poor pass or loss of possession.. Snoddy or Howson should be given a chance.

[Jersey Canary 180]

[quote user="unique"]Whilst you can''t fault Hoolahan''s workrate and endeavour, the Wigan game aside, he has produced just one assist all season. He pirouettes with the best of them, but Norwich suddenly need a little more than that.

Snodgrass''s confidence seems sky high, and with his ability to go down if a defender so much as breathes on him, could most likely earn a plethora of freekicks in dangerously central positions.

Bennett must be champing at the bit to get a consistent run down the right flank, and would add much needed pace to the attacking line.

There would be nothing to lose by trying it judging by recent results.[/quote]

I like this idea and would be prepared to give it another go now Snoddy has acclimatised to PL football.

[Google Bot 3,936]

I got tried ''in the hole'' once, and i didn''t like it at all.

[nutty nigel 7,902]

[quote user="BWs Cat "]I don''t see what he''s done wrong in his current position.[/quote]

 

Exactly. I don''t see that Hoolahan has done much wrong in his position either. Why compromise both positions?

 

 

[Joanna Grey 0]

I think this would be a good option to try and was thinking the same thing after witnessing Wes''s latest crab-like performance.

[Thirsty Lizard 3,215]

I think it''s definitely time to bench Wes and replace him in the hole. Snodgrass would be an option here, but we''ve also got Howson, Elliot Bennett and maybe Pilks who could have a go.

Hoolahan''s miss on Saturday when he had the chance of a first time shot on his right foot, but instead tried to get it on his left and was tackled was nothing short of criminal (in footballing terms).

He''s only scored one goal and set up two others all season and that''s nowhere near good enough.

[I am a Banana 0]

[quote user="unique"]Snodgrass''s confidence seems sky high, and with his ability to go down if a defender so much as breathes on him, could most likely earn a plethora of freekicks in dangerously central positions. [/quote]

Cheating, that is plain cheating. Drop him for cheating!

[Baracouda 47]

He''s not quick enough to play in the ''hole'' imo.

The perfect in the ''hole'' player, was Juninho (at Boro),

[Monty13 2,738]

I don''t think personally Hoolahan has done much wrong, but with Holt coming back I think it would be foolish to drop him when they have such a good relationship on the pitch.

Also, Snodgrass has been arguably our best attacking player all season, but playing on the right wing, it would seem madness to move him from that position which he favours by all accounts and has been so successful in.

[Fozzie 0]

I''d at least take him out for a meal first.

[Lets be aving you! 0]

Yeah, and wear a "raincoat".

[GJP 79]

[quote user="Monty13"]I don''t think personally Hoolahan has done much wrong, but with Holt coming back I think it would be foolish to drop him when they have such a good relationship on the pitch.

 Also, Snodgrass has been arguably our best attacking player all season, but playing on the right wing, it would seem madness to move him from that position which he favours by all accounts and has been so successful in.[/quote]

Excellent post. Spot on about Hoolahan and Snodgrass.

[shefcanary 2,956]

Hughton thinks this too actually.  Snoddy moved into the "hole" in the last game when RBenno came on.  I think this can be very effective, I think opposition centre halves will be very aware of Snoddy''s "ability in the tackle".  This might just give him the time on the ball that he needs to find the killer ball or get off a shot (which is more likely to be on target than Hooly). 

[unique 466]

"I don''t personally see Hoolahan has done much wrong".........

.....he hasn''t, if you consider one goal and two assists a satisfactory return from a ''No.10'' who has spent almost 25 hours on the pitch this season.....

[Jacko 0]

I think my team for Liverpool (fitness pending) would be :

---------------------------Bunn------------------------------

Martin--------Turner---------Bassong-------Garrido

----------------Tettey----------Johnson------------------

Bennett---------------Snodgrass----------Pilkington

------------------------------Holt-----------------------------

[nutty nigel 7,902]

[quote user="unique"]"I don''t personally see Hoolahan has done much wrong"......... .....he hasn''t, if you consider one goal and two assists a satisfactory return from a ''No.10'' who has spent almost 25 hours on the pitch this season.....[/quote]

 

With all due respect he''s part of a team and the more pertinent question is do we consider the points won a satisfactory return from those players. It''s certainly more satisfactory than the points won by the teams without him.

 

 

[unique 466]

He is part of a team that has gained one point from the last fifteen........ I dare say it might be time to mix things up a bit, and I''m afraid Hoolahan has contributed less than Snodgrass and Pilkington when it comes to goals and assists, and a rest may do him some good.

[nutty nigel 7,902]

That''s a matter of opinion Unique. It''s just I remember how we were before we changed to the current system. But Snodgrass has been awesome where he is why change that? If you want to drop Wes why not give Bennett a chance instead of compromising the right side in order to make the change? I think the present system and personnel is our best option from what we have but am hopeful there will be more options by the end of the month.

 

 

[Baracouda 47]

If we was going to give Wes a rest, then I would still like to see Snoddy on the right, and I feel Kane could do that no.10 role. Seems to have a bit of pace, use both feet, and he seems more suited to that role than he is a ST with one upfront.

Either way, I don''t think it''ll happen, but it is an option.

[Evesham Canary 0]

The problem with Wes is that he doesn''t get into the penalty box enough which is essential with the system we are playing - particularly as Holt does so much work running the channels and linking up the play. Quite often we have no-one in the box.

I don''t think Snodgrass is the answer - I would prefer Pilks or Bennett in there or (a bit left field this..) Surman when he is fit. Has an eye for a pass and not a bad finisher, alternatively he can wide left and allow Pilks to play in that role. Pilks would definitely offer more of a goal threat.

[nutty nigel 7,902]

Kane, Surman or Bennett would seem better options for me. At least we wouldn''t compromise another position. Didn''t Bennett play off the front man at Peterborough?

 

 

[Chunky Norwich 0]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

That''s a matter of opinion Unique. It''s just I remember how we were before we changed to the current system. But Snodgrass has been awesome where he is why change that? If you want to drop Wes why not give Bennett a chance instead of compromising the right side in order to make the change? I think the present system and personnel is our best option from what we have but am hopeful there will be more options by the end of the month.

 

 

[/quote]I still maintain that Snoddy''s awesomeness has been fairly restricted to dead ball situations. Benno contributes much more in open play down the right wing. Snoddy is 99.9% left foot and he''s not a Huckerby/Bellamy type player with pace and dribbling ability to beat defenders and shoot with his left. He''s more likely looking to cross. I keep saying it''s like playing Beckham on the left wing constantly

[nutty nigel 7,902]

[quote user="Chunky Norwich"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

That''s a matter of opinion Unique. It''s just I remember how we were before we changed to the current system. But Snodgrass has been awesome where he is why change that? If you want to drop Wes why not give Bennett a chance instead of compromising the right side in order to make the change? I think the present system and personnel is our best option from what we have but am hopeful there will be more options by the end of the month.

 

 

[/quote]

I still maintain that Snoddy''s awesomeness has been fairly restricted to dead ball situations. Benno contributes much more in open play down the right wing. Snoddy is 99.9% left foot and he''s not a Huckerby/Bellamy type player with pace and dribbling ability to beat defenders and shoot with his left. He''s more likely looking to cross. I keep saying it''s like playing Beckham on the left wing constantly
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He does far more than that Chunky. Especially away from home. He rarely wastes posession, is our top scorer, has most assists and has been MOM twice as many times as all our other players put together.

 

 

[ZLF 335]

The only reason to move snod to the middle is hope he has more of the ball. However citys attacking preference is already to go down the right flank - meaning he is involved more often than either wes or pilks.

his partnership with martin and whittaker works well defensively so we would lose something there and his attacking play is ok on the right - so I can only echo what others have said - there is no risk losing what he brings by moving him.

[Chunky Norwich 0]

[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Chunky Norwich"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

That''s a matter of opinion Unique. It''s just I remember how we were before we changed to the current system. But Snodgrass has been awesome where he is why change that? If you want to drop Wes why not give Bennett a chance instead of compromising the right side in order to make the change? I think the present system and personnel is our best option from what we have but am hopeful there will be more options by the end of the month.

 

 

[/quote]I still maintain that Snoddy''s awesomeness has been fairly restricted to dead ball situations. Benno contributes much more in open play down the right wing. Snoddy is 99.9% left foot and he''s not a Huckerby/Bellamy type player with pace and dribbling ability to beat defenders and shoot with his left. He''s more likely looking to cross. I keep saying it''s like playing Beckham on the left wing constantly[/quote]

 

He does far more than that Chunky. Especially away from home. He rarely wastes posession, is our top scorer, has most assists and has been MOM twice as many times as all our other players put together.

 

 

[/quote]Top scorer with 5. 3 have been free-kicks i.e. dead-ball situationsNo idea how many assists he has but I''m willing to bet that a sizeable proportion have come from corners or free-kicks i.e. dead-ball situations.Last point is a little bit trite Nige but I''ll shrug and point to the above.I''m not saying that Snoddy is rubbish, I''m just saying imagine how much better he''d be playing on the left or through the middle

[Monty13 2,738]

But he is tricky and cuts back and crosses inswinging corners with his left on the right chunky, if you play him on the left he has to get passed defenders to get a cross in, he''s not quick enough for that in my opinion.

I''d love to see Bennet given a chance too but I think you can only really do that by compromising Snodgrass''s best position.

Personally I think Wes is often in the box but we always look to cross to head from the wings, so he''s made pretty useless, we need to drive more balls in or look for the cut back. Saying that I can''t defend the chance he had against Newcastle, he should have buried it with his right.