Has the best budget ever already been spent on Compo......

[First Wizard 0]

To other clubs?.........namely Birmingham City FC.

 

Thats if you believe the boards PR on this best ever budget lark........which I don''t![^o)]

[The ambassador 0]

Why are you so convinced that the club is lying to us wiz? Do you even support anything the club does? I havn''t seen a SINGLE positive post.

Why would they lie to us? What''s the bloody point? What would they gain? You could say, "There trying to cheer us up" or something along those lines but''s that BS.

What''s your next theory, we didn''t actually get to the PL and it''s all a grand delusion?

[Bill 1,788]

This from the man who believed the South Stand was the Main Stand some while back - after regaling us with his time spent visiting Carrow Road some years back

 

all of which turned out to be fabrication, so i shall leave others to judge the worth of his post .... or his support of our club

 

 

[First Wizard 0]

Other posters are now starting to question our lack of creditable signings.....I agree with them.

[Unhinged Canary 375]

This is how cults start........

[blahblahblah 2]

"Other posters are now starting to question our lack of creditable signings.....I agree with them. "

Was today, or yesterday the first day that CH got to see the players in training ? I forget. Anyway, until he has seen the players in action, he won''t make his mind up about where we "need help" to quote a scotsman.

Honestly wiz, find something else to do with your time.

[lake district canary 0]

It beggars belief how some so called fans will try to undermine their club and their fellow fans'' support.     In the real world our club is now being run on a very sound footing.     Money will always be an issue - as at every club in the country - but we undoubtedly have money to spend on players - its just that some people can''t handle the fact that they have no control over it.   We have to wait - be patient and trust Hughton and the board to get the right players in at the right price and at the right time.  Oh, did I mention the word trust?    I forgot, some people don''t know, or have forgotten the meaning of that word.............

 

 

 

 

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="City1st"]

This from the man who believed the South Stand was the Main Stand some while back - after regaling us with his time spent visiting Carrow Road some years back

 

all of which turned out to be fabrication, so i shall leave others to judge the worth of his post .... or his support of our club

 

 

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You''re confused........as per usual.

 

I was talking about theWensum part of that stand, corner infil area I believe.

[Barclay hero 0]

[quote user="Wiz"][quote user="City1st"]

This from the man who believed the South Stand was the Main Stand some while back - after regaling us with his time spent visiting Carrow Road some years back

 

all of which turned out to be fabrication, so i shall leave others to judge the worth of his post .... or his support of our club

 

 

[/quote]

 

You''re confused........as per usual.

 

I was talking about theWensum part of that stand, corner infil area I believe.

[/quote]Which is nowhere near the South StandI dont know whats happened to you Wiz - unless the loss of our previous manager has knocked you back so far.  Even then if you have supported our club as long as you claim, you would know its been a fairly common occurrence over the years.  We find, we nurture, we grow, other clubs benefit.  Always have done, regardless of who is at the helm.  Its only in the last few years we have started putting our foot down over stuffYoure rapidly becoming an object of ridicule - which I know has happened on and off with talk of Hexes and magic underpants etc - but you used to get at least some respect as a major poster on here.  That respect is now rapidly going.  I really hope you get your old mojo back before the whole board turns against you

[Power Hamster 0]

If we have spent money on Compo...We will also have to fork out for his backroom team of Clegg, Foggy, and Nora Batty.....[:)]

[Bill 1,788]

Nonsense, and well you know it

 

We were discussing old photos and you piped up about how you remembered that part of the ground then (early 60''s). When challenged you were totally clueless and responded by posting up some scan of an early City programme .................. one that could be found on Google pictures. Something that suggests you had ben trawling through Google hoping to find an old pic or two that could give you credibility regarding what Carrow Road was like then. Times you claimed to have attended.

 

I didn''t say so at the time choosing let sleeping dogs lie so to speak but if you are to consistently post on here trying to stir up the s it then let''s have everyone know where you are coming from and so let them form their own opinions as to your intentions and motivations.

 

 

[First Wazzock 1,014]

[quote user="Unhinged Canary"]This is how cults start........
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Lots of people think Wiz is one of the biggest cults on here...

[Dubai Mark 0]

Thats a decent question to ask and got me thinking, as I am sure that PR spin plays a relatively big role at the club, particularly at times when a legend like PL has moved on and our best player hands in a transfer request for example. Its what most major companies do, and I am sure that like these companies the top football clubs also employ an External Communications Manager or somebody with this responsibilty to balance and manage the messages coming out of the club, of course they do. So, at the time, I took the "best budget ever" statement with a pinch of salt as it was clearly a bit of positive spin, particularly when you think that the club are usually very guarded about how much the transfer budget is. But on the other side of the coin, of course the transfer kitty is significant for our previous standards,BUT will be spent very wisely as per usual. As for any compensation, I would be surprised if this hasnt taken a decent slug of cash, but certainly not enough to wipe out our transfer kitty.  The club is clearly in good hands these days and I wouldnt be surprised if before the season kicks-off we dont see one or two relatively significant signings, either permanent and / or a top loanee. So, it is possible to answer you in a civil manner Wiz when you pose these questions, and this one was reasonable and the type of question that should be put out there on a message board.  OTBC

[lappinitup 629]

Let''s remind ourselves of what Bowkett actually said........

"We will have the biggest expenditure on football we''ve ever had.

That''s down to the fantastic commercial success of the business.

"In

League One we had a turnover of £18m. This year we will have an

approximate turnover of £75m and that''s only about £5m short of Everton" said Bowkett.

"We want to invest in the squad. We''ve got a very strong squad as it is, but we want to improve."

"Therefore

we will be looking again in the transfer market and possibly looking a

bit wider than the lower leagues and more internationally."

He does not say we will splash put on bigger transfer fees than ever before......

He does not say we will rush out and spend this money as soon as we can......

So Wiz, can you point out what you think he is lying about please? [^o)]

[Bill 1,788]

Dearie me

 

not only do we now have the CEO, the board, the manager, club secretary being involved in deception but we have involved an outside management company to tell us how best to lie, beggars belief that all would connive in such a matter

 

the usual take is that clubs actually down play their money so as to hopefully guard against demands of high fees from selling clubs, so this conspiracy theory is absurd as is offensive

 

the original question was not reasonable, merely the ramblings of someone trying to stir the s it - something it appears can also be done without such a blindingly obvious post it would appear

 

 

[Canaries Utd 0]

FFS, the best way to deal with topics that are ridiculous is to not bite and let it sink down the board. I''m well aware i''ve just put this back to the top of the pile, but Wiz, really? [:#]

[Baldyboy 1]

where do you get off Wiz? Why do you have to do this ALL the time? Question why this hasnt happened or thats happened? When we do sign some players which I am confident we will, will you promise to post a retraction of all this cr*p you post? When we stay up next season will you post an apolgy to the board and delia? It will be interesting to see!!

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Barclay hero"][quote user="Wiz"][quote user="City1st"]

This from the man who believed the South Stand was the Main Stand some while back - after regaling us with his time spent visiting Carrow Road some years back

 

all of which turned out to be fabrication, so i shall leave others to judge the worth of his post .... or his support of our club

 

 

[/quote]

 

You''re confused........as per usual.

 

I was talking about theWensum part of that stand, corner infil area I believe.

[/quote]

Which is nowhere near the South Stand

I dont know whats happened to you Wiz - unless the loss of our previous manager has knocked you back so far.  Even then if you have supported our club as long as you claim, you would know its been a fairly common occurrence over the years.  We find, we nurture, we grow, other clubs benefit.  Always have done, regardless of who is at the helm.  Its only in the last few years we have started putting our foot down over stuff

Youre rapidly becoming an object of ridicule - which I know has happened on and off with talk of Hexes and magic underpants etc - but you used to get at least some respect as a major poster on here.  That respect is now rapidly going.  I really hope you get your old mojo back before the whole board turns against you


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The only one to mention the South Stand was Titty Last.

 

And you actually think I care what people think of me?

 

Jesus! [:S]

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="City1st"]

Nonsense, and well you know it

 

We were discussing old photos and you piped up about how you remembered that part of the ground then (early 60''s). When challenged you were totally clueless and responded by posting up some scan of an early City programme .................. one that could be found on Google pictures. Something that suggests you had ben trawling through Google hoping to find an old pic or two that could give you credibility regarding what Carrow Road was like then. Times you claimed to have attended.

 

I didn''t say so at the time choosing let sleeping dogs lie so to speak but if you are to consistently post on here trying to stir up the s it then let''s have everyone know where you are coming from and so let them form their own opinions as to your intentions and motivations.

 

 

[/quote]

 

You clearly think me a liar, fine, thats your choice, but I and my family know the truth of it.........and they''re the ones who matter, not you.

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="baldyboy"]where do you get off Wiz? Why do you have to do this ALL the time? Question why this hasnt happened or thats happened? When we do sign some players which I am confident we will, will you promise to post a retraction of all this cr*p you post? When we stay up next season will you post an apolgy to the board and delia? It will be interesting to see!!
[/quote]

 

If all that happens BB, then of course I will.

[Old Shuck 300]

Wiz, last time you started a thread claiming the "best ever budget" statement anything but, I posted a reply asking if you thought the Chairman was lying -as said statement was fairly clear, public and concise-and, secondly, if that was the case and he was lying, what possible purpose did you think it would serve, as, inevitably, if it had been, the truth would have soon come out and his position, for a start, would immediately become untenable.

 

So, again. Are you claiming the Chairman of the football club was lying when he made that statement?

 

I happen to think the signing of Butterfield is an excellent and very credible one-we were up against several other Premier League clubs and we won the day. I have little doubt that Whitaker will be a good signing as well.

 

It seems you want A-listers to come through the door as evidence that the money is there. But face the truth: we are not going to be signing any A listers, not this Summer, not next, and, most likely, not ever.

 

I''m therefore not sure what you mean by credible signings, lack of. Name them-don''t speculate, name players who have moved this Summer who you feel that, by their not coming here, demonstrates we don''t have the money available to have signed them ourselves.

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Old Shuck"]

Wiz, last time you started a thread claiming the "best ever budget" statement anything but, I posted a reply asking if you thought the Chairman was lying -as said statement was fairly clear, public and concise-and, secondly, if that was the case and he was lying, what possible purpose did you think it would serve, as, inevitably, if it had been, the truth would have soon come out and his position, for a start, would immediately become untenable.

 

So, again. Are you claiming the Chairman of the football club was lying when he made that statement?

 

I happen to think the signing of Butterfield is an excellent and very credible one-we were up against several other Premier League clubs and we won the day. I have little doubt that Whitaker will be a good signing as well.

 

It seems you want A-listers to come through the door as evidence that the money is there. But face the truth: we are not going to be signing any A listers, not this Summer, not next, and, most likely, not ever.

 

I''m therefore not sure what you mean by credible signings, lack of. Name them-don''t speculate, name players who have moved this Summer who you feel that, by their not coming here, demonstrates we don''t have the money available to have signed them ourselves.

[/quote]

 

Snodgrass or Roedes would be a sign of intent Shuck, Reading are touting DeFoe, West Ham are setting their stall out nicely, ditto Southampton.

 

Its the club PR I don''t swallow, not an individual who says it. 

[PurpleCanary 6,463]

[quote user="Wiz"]

 

Its the club PR I don''t swallow, not an individual who says it. 

[/quote]

 

If the individual who is doing the saying is, as in this case, the club chairman then it is by definition club PR.

[Old Shuck 300]

Defoe would be great but is a complete non-starter. Fee, wages-and AVB has said he wants him to stay.

 

It interests me that, assuming he WAS available, then only Reading seem to be connected with him. Why is that and why has he been an infrequent starter at Tottenham? You''d think some of the big clubs would want him if he was available. Does that say anything about Defoe? Anyway...

 

Snodgrass. Concur, he''d be a good signing. But with an impending takeover (unless its more smoke and mirrors) at Leeds, he might want to hang around or they might not want to sell him-remember, they let Beckford run to the end of his contract rather than sell him. I don''t think he is going to e easily available and if it comes to a straight ''fight'' if he were-us and Villa offering the same fee, we offer £20k a week, Villa £40k-whats he going to do?

 

Rhodes-not sure about him. There doesn''t seem to be a desperate clamour from anyone to get him signed up, signing a player who has scored lots of goals in L1 is a hell of a gamble-Beckford again, he flopped at Everton and even Leicester seem keen to get rid now-was L1 his level as it seemed to be Jamie Cureton''s for example? Who is going to take the big money risk on Rhodes and hope it comes off, Mackail-Smith was another at L1 who was banging the goals in and getting a load of attention, he made it as far as Brighton-9 in 45 for them last season and thats in the Championship.

 

He would be a gamble-might come off, might not. We can''t afford to gamble, we''ve pretty much got to get, or go for, as near the finished article as we can, there''ll never be a guaranteed return on any signing, no matter who it is-we gambled on Ashton remember, that did come off. Darren Beckford however, a record signing at the time and someone who would have been seen as a "statement of intent"-maybe you regarded him as such-was more miss than hit.

 

To me, the clubs statement of intent is how it is ran, not who we sign. And there is a while to go yet-patience!

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Old Shuck"]

Defoe would be great but is a complete non-starter. Fee, wages-and AVB has said he wants him to stay.

 

It interests me that, assuming he WAS available, then only Reading seem to be connected with him. Why is that and why has he been an infrequent starter at Tottenham? You''d think some of the big clubs would want him if he was available. Does that say anything about Defoe? Anyway...

 

Snodgrass. Concur, he''d be a good signing. But with an impending takeover (unless its more smoke and mirrors) at Leeds, he might want to hang around or they might not want to sell him-remember, they let Beckford run to the end of his contract rather than sell him. I don''t think he is going to e easily available and if it comes to a straight ''fight'' if he were-us and Villa offering the same fee, we offer £20k a week, Villa £40k-whats he going to do?

 

Rhodes-not sure about him. There doesn''t seem to be a desperate clamour from anyone to get him signed up, signing a player who has scored lots of goals in L1 is a hell of a gamble-Beckford again, he flopped at Everton and even Leicester seem keen to get rid now-was L1 his level as it seemed to be Jamie Cureton''s for example? Who is going to take the big money risk on Rhodes and hope it comes off, Mackail-Smith was another at L1 who was banging the goals in and getting a load of attention, he made it as far as Brighton-9 in 45 for them last season and thats in the Championship.

 

He would be a gamble-might come off, might not. We can''t afford to gamble, we''ve pretty much got to get, or go for, as near the finished article as we can, there''ll never be a guaranteed return on any signing, no matter who it is-we gambled on Ashton remember, that did come off. Darren Beckford however, a record signing at the time and someone who would have been seen as a "statement of intent"-maybe you regarded him as such-was more miss than hit.

 

To me, the clubs statement of intent is how it is ran, not who we sign. And there is a while to go yet-patience!

[/quote]

 

Wise words Shuck..............but, I don''t do patience.

[William Darby 0]

This is how I see it.Bowkett gave the budget statement at the time to stop rumours starting that PL left because of lack of funds simple as that.I believe we do have a relatively decent budget a we''ll get a couple of decent  players in, but we''re never going to get any world class names.

[Mister Chops 11]

[quote user="Wiz"]

To other clubs?.........namely Birmingham City FC.

 

Thats if you believe the boards PR on this best ever budget lark........which I don''t![^o)]

[/quote]ALAN BENNETT''S UNPUBLISHED SHORT STORIES #14It was a cloudy Friday afternoon in Lowestoft, Suffolk, and an old man''s carer was leaving the bungalow."I''ll only be five minutes or so, Sir," she shouted as she closed the front door.  "Try not to get up to any of your tricks while I''m gone.""Eh?" said the old man.The carer opened the front door a fraction and stared at the picture hung in the hallway; it appeared to beDelia Smith with eyes gouged out and a swastika drawn in biro on her forehead..  "You know.  Starting rumours, seeking attention, starting arguments, causing trouble, generally stirring the pot to entertain yourself.""Oh, right," the man said.  "No, of course not."The carer paused, head craned to the side.  "Did I just hear the Windows start-up sound?"There was a prolonged fit of coughing.  "Um - no," the old man said.The carer nodded.  "Alright then," she said, sceptically, and closed the door.  She had taken ten steps down the driveway when she paused, hearing what she thought was demonic laughter, and then carried on to the local store to buy some Jack Daniels and Sanatogen wine.THE END

[JF 694]

I''m afraid the biggest transfer budget ever for a Norwich manager is going to be small change compared to the budgets of nearly every other team in the league. We will be shopping in the lower leagues again, Weather it will work again this season or not remains to be seen. I have a feeling we will be in a real relegation scrap with the bottom 6-7 being really close but we will just get through it.

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

Hold on a moment....

Yes, we did fork out significant compensation to Brum with nothing coming our way from AV.

Yes, we have spend significant money upgrading the salaries of a number of current players.

But at the same time, anyone can see we are disastrously light in defence and that from a defence that didn''t defend particularly well last season.

We are also light on genuine PL experience.

If Christ Hughton hasn''t grasped that early doors then he isn''t fit for purpose. So, assuming he has, what is he doing about it? A defender (probably) from the SPL and a youngster with little experience - one for the future.

Of course we are anxious as supporters, we want to stay up. Of course we have been used to prompt dealings in the recent past and of course we are no further behind than many teams, but, if we don''t spend money and buy experienced/quality defenders there is only one direction we are going.

The Chairman, perhaps stung by Lambert''s departure bragged about our budget. He raised expectations and fans expect delivery in the vulnerable areas. That doesn''t mean a Simon Charlton centre half or an ''I''m too good Thomas Helvig'' it means a proper couple of buys.

Wiz is only expressing the concerns of many supporters.

[Old Shuck 300]

Pretty much how I see it JF-a lot more tense this season but we''ll come through-next Summer we might just have some real money to spend, however, even if we do, I can''t see the wage bill increasing in line so those A Listers won''t be coming in just yet.