Goodbye Gibson, Giannoulis, Batth, Hooijdonk & Lima

[cambridgeshire canary 7,697]

We really are going to need an all new squad at the rate players are being told to pack their bags huh?

 

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

Going to miss Lima 😔

[Satriales 941]

Hopefully we will be buying a left back during the summer 😬 

[Midlands Yellow 4,672]

One good season from Gibson. £8m fee and £40k a week for a very average Championship defender. 

 

[GodlyOtsemobor 2,808]

2 minutes ago, Satriales said:

Hopefully we will be buying a left back during the summer 😬 

Harrison Burrows would be a fantastic one to go for. 

[Barham Blitz 839]

2 minutes ago, Satriales said:

Hopefully we will be buying a left back during the summer 😬 

Wasn't there some talk of Toffolo earlier this week ?  Or did I imagine that ?

[Branston Pickle 4,116]

17 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

Going to miss Lima 😔

We never got a chance to say goodbye 🥲

[Icecream Snow 777]

Extending Sorenson and Lima going are the only surprises to me. I know there was talk that Lima was lightweight, but I thought they was noise from the club that we were keen on signing him full time.

[cambridgeshire canary 7,697]

11 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said:

One good season from Gibson. £8m fee and £40k a week for a very average Championship defender. 

 

At the time I thought it was a bargain.. In hindsight however prehaps we should have listened to Burnley when they decided to not play him as they clearly saw something we did not.

[Capt. Pants 4,882]

Makes sense to extend Sorensen's contract. The rest I'm not too fussed about.

Please don't let us start with Duffy and Hanley.

[canarydan23 4,699]

8 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

At the time I thought it was a bargain.. In hindsight however prehaps we should have listened to Burnley when they decided to not play him as they clearly saw something we did not.

He was excellent in our promotion season, and given the money getting promoted got us and his role in it, it arguably justified the cost. But he never really recovered from a bruising EPL season and hasn't performed anywhere near the levels you should be getting from one of the league's best paid defenders.

Absolutely need to sign a CB. I'd love to see us try and steal Kipre from West Brom as he is out of contract, but I'm not sure he'd leave them for us.

[Mason 47 1,855]

11 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

At the time I thought it was a bargain.. In hindsight however prehaps we should have listened to Burnley when they decided to not play him as they clearly saw something we did not.

In fairness to Gibson, he was looking decent value until that ugly injury and then I think his confidence got obliterated by the PL season we had. I get the feeling he's a reasonably sensitive guy and things haven't been good for a long time.

No harm in saying he's lost a step, and I wish him well in the future.

[Capt. Pants 4,882]

13 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

At the time I thought it was a bargain.. In hindsight however prehaps we should have listened to Burnley when they decided to not play him as they clearly saw something we did not.

I don't think he's been bad value tbh, especially if you compare him to Duffy (and his wages) and wasting a year's salary on Batth.

[cambridgeshire canary 7,697]

Just now, Capt. Pants said:

I don't think he's been bad value tbh, especially if you compare him to Duffy (and his wages) and wasting a year's salary on Batth.

To be fair it does feel like our defence has been a cursed position for quite a few seasons now. Other than a few standouts like Aarons, Hanley and Omobamidele at times it does feel like we have never been able to have a ceritfied settled backline and one that feels safe and secure.

[TheGunnShow 7,254]

Made sense to take the option on Lungi as his versatility always means he can fill a hole well in a functioning team. Not too unhappy with those being told to leave. They did their time with us, were thoroughly commendable pros for the most part, but it's time to move on.

[Terminally Yellow 2,614]

24 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said:

One good season from Gibson. £8m fee and £40k a week for a very average Championship defender. 

Yeah. In truth we've not had much luck with center backs in recent years have we? Zimmermann arguably the best? 

Gibson, Batth, Duffy, Kabak and Hanley (although you could make an argument for Hanley being ok) all have been rather disappointing from the Webber era.

[yellowrider120 896]

10 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Makes sense to extend Sorensen's contract. The rest I'm not too fussed about.

Please don't let us start with Duffy and Hanley.

Therein lies the problem. Easy to get rid of Gibson as no contract to pay up but I would much rather have kept him on a 12 month deal (if he would have taken that) than the overrated Hanley and the other guy who should be shown the door PDQ! Gibson is a very good professional. Yes he always has a gaffe in  him but so do the other clowns. 

[Terminally Yellow 2,614]

1 minute ago, yellowrider120 said:

Therein lies the problem. Easy to get rid of Gibson as no contract to pay up but I would much rather have kept him on a 12 month deal (if he would have taken that) than the overrated Hanley and the other guy who should be shown the door PDQ! Gibson is a very good professional. Yes he always has a gaffe in  him but so do the other clowns. 

I would not be surprised to see the young lad who has been on loan at Accrington given a shot. Brad Hills is it? Said to have really impressed. 

[Well b back 3,590]

7 minutes ago, Mason 47 said:

In fairness to Gibson, he was looking decent value until that ugly injury and then I think his confidence got obliterated by the PL season we had. I get the feeling he's a reasonably sensitive guy and things haven't been good for a long time.

No harm in saying he's lost a step, and I wish him well in the future.

I suspect he will have many suitors.

[pete 362]

Its still Dads Army with Barnes and Duffy still stealing a salary.  No chance of buying out their contracts.  Hanley also a veteran.  Need a proper defence youngsters just not good enough to fill the rota.

[canarydan23 4,699]

1 minute ago, Terminally Yellow said:

I would not be surprised to see the young lad who has been on loan at Accrington given a shot. Brad Hills is it? Said to have really impressed. 

Yeah, and Adegboyega at Walsall had a good, albeit shorter, stint.

[yellowrider120 896]

1 minute ago, Terminally Yellow said:

I would not be surprised to see the young lad who has been on loan at Accrington given a shot. Brad Hills is it? Said to have really impressed. 

Definitely. I believe they all had good reports. Will be very disappointed if at least one (if not two) are in the first team squad for next season). Need to acquire a 'mid 20s' Championship defender who can actually 'defend'! 

[TheGunnShow 7,254]

1 minute ago, yellowrider120 said:

Definitely. I believe they all had good reports. Will be very disappointed if at least one (if not two) are in the first team squad for next season). Need to acquire a 'mid 20s' Championship defender who can actually 'defend'! 

If they're good enough, they're old enough. Not to mention we're sleeping on Warner and Tomkinson, who've had some experience with us. Omo came through on the rails and never looked back, so I would expect at least one of this set to do so.

[yellowrider120 896]

1 minute ago, pete said:

Its still Dads Army with Barnes and Duffy still stealing a salary.  No chance of buying out their contracts.  Hanley also a veteran.  Need a proper defence youngsters just not good enough to fill the rota.

Why? Would be expensive but if we're serious about a reset then get rid. If they're told they are not part of the plans for next season they may find themselves another club. 

[Midlands Yellow 4,672]

1 minute ago, pete said:

Its still Dads Army with Barnes and Duffy still stealing a salary.  No chance of buying out their contracts.  Hanley also a veteran.  Need a proper defence youngsters just not good enough to fill the rota.

Barnes and Duffy on over £30k a week allegedly, could that be true? 

[ZLF 333]

Decision to loan Lima rather than buy looks sound if we are rejecting him.   No surprise on the decisions so far tbh.

[Danke bitte 1,147]

8 minutes ago, Terminally Yellow said:

Yeah. In truth we've not had much luck with center backs in recent years have we? Zimmermann arguably the best? 

Gibson, Batth, Duffy, Kabak and Hanley (although you could make an argument for Hanley being ok) all have been rather disappointing from the Webber era.

Spot on. I’d say Zimbo and Hanley have been decent and don’t forget Godfrey. But it’s an area we really need to strengthen now and have done for a number of seasons. 

[Capt. Pants 4,882]

2 minutes ago, pete said:

Its still Dads Army with Barnes and Duffy still stealing a salary.  No chance of buying out their contracts.  Hanley also a veteran.  Need a proper defence youngsters just not good enough to fill the rota.

We might have to pay their salary but that doesn't and shouldn't mean they walk into the team.

 

[Terminally Yellow 2,614]

Just now, Danke bitte said:

Spot on. I’d say Zimbo and Hanley have been decent and don’t forget Godfrey. But it’s an area we really need to strengthen now and have done for a number of seasons. 

In fairness I didn't include Godfrey and Andy Omo as both were not purchased by Webber.

[Branston Pickle 4,116]

We’ve got Hills, Warner, Tomkinson and Adegboyega to come back, all cb’s.   None were out at anything like Champs level, but Hills did win Accrington’s PoTS award - hopefully one or more will come through for next season.