S_81 890 Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, hogesar said: Whilst it would have been much easier and the better decision for Delia not to make those comments, you have to question the sensitivity of some posters on here who have recently referred to her as "an old cow" and a "hag" yet can't handle being called a bit of a whinger.. You also have to question why you leap to the defence of these people to the degree that you do every time. Vested interest perhaps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iwans Big Toe 312 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, yellow_belly said: Does Delia have a drink problem? Edited December 2, 2023 by Iwans Big Toe 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldy09 162 Posted December 2, 2023 YOU NAUGHTY fans -its all your fault the team been playing so badly- you all should happy clapped everything and wave your scarfs - buying Delia cookbooks , sending Wagner chocolates so he does not feel so sad just in case we let in 10 goals against Ipswich and wish Ipswich all the best thats delia dream - so calm you horrible whingeing fans LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 890 Posted December 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Pugin said: No Norwich City fan throughout its existence will ever do anything more classless than hounding Delia in word and deed. It's deplorable and crass. She deserves to be allowed to make her own exit in her own time which, in her 83rd year, she knows is upon her. It's not like leaving a building, she's stepping away in a process that needs to be right and meticulous, and cannot be rushed. Show some respect and decency. It would be hounding her if those with criticisms of her were unduly going out of their way to let her know - email, in person etc. Whilst some of the comments go further than what I’d say about her - you’re as bad as she is if you think discussion on a fans’ forum is hounding her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,421 Posted December 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, S_81 said: You also have to question why you leap to the defence of these people to the degree that you do every time. Vested interest perhaps Employee 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 890 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: Employee 😉 I think so. It’s too obvious. Even a fan who was fond of the likes of Webber or Delia, or far too proud to acknowledge his support/opinions have proved to be wrong at times, would not leap on as many comments as he does in the way he does it. It’s a really conscious pattern of trying to shut down criticism. Goes beyond just occasional disagreement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,894 Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, yellowrider120 said: But they didn't 'straight bat' it did they! Smith was bristling with anger whilst CS was still asking the question! They both openly ridiculed him and replied with utter contempt. A short while later in the interview it was noticeable how MA attempted to repair the damage by giving his own views on 'governance' and a 'CEO'. If The Smiths had answered the question with the same skill and style as him they would not have landed themselves in this latest mess. Yeah fair enough, wrong choice of words. Can't argue with anything you've posted there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 857 Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, hogesar said: She called them moaners, if you think it's important to be that pedantic about it. And to be pedantic even further, she said those fans questioning the governance do not know the amount of inside workings within the football club. Certainly not the answer I'd have gone with as it doesn't help but equally I doubt she's that wrong. Again, her comments aren't ideal but anyone calling her and old cow / hag or anything similar need to take a long look at themselves. I have no doubt they are all working extremely hard but that’s not enough, the work needs to be productive and effective, otherwise they are just ‘busy fools’. Accepting everyone is working hard, they’re obviously busy fools. I’ve never doubted them until now. That was a shocking evening in my view, out of touch, out of ideas, for the good of the club, they need to step down, we need direction. Not convinced by Attanasio either. Worrying times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,702 Posted December 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, ged in the onion bag said: I have no doubt they are all working extremely hard but that’s not enough, the work needs to be productive and effective, otherwise they are just ‘busy fools’. Accepting everyone is working hard, they’re obviously busy fools. I’ve never doubted them until now. That was a shocking evening in my view, out of touch, out of ideas, for the good of the club, they need to step down, we need direction. Not convinced by Attanasio either. Worrying times. Wow, you’ve given Attanasio a fair crack! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldy09 162 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) She talked wonderfully about Portsmouth - perhaps she should go there and do her self funding Edited December 2, 2023 by baldy09 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,486 Posted December 2, 2023 She’s weak if we strategise, I think we have never had a better chance of getting her out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 857 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Branston Pickle said: Wow, you’ve given Attanasio a fair crack! I hope he’s good for us but he doesn’t know football and analytics are less effective in this sport than baseball. They have a use but need staff who can interpret them and use them to good effect…. Also, they (may) detract from actual physical scouting which I think must be the main focus. Not saying he won’t be good for us and time will tell but if he can’t see that massive change in direction is required right now, not in 3 years, again that’s a concern. IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,458 Posted December 2, 2023 Anyone hounding Delia , or anyone else , would be classless . Anyone questioning the comments she made during the recent interview would be perfectly reasonable. Not difficult. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,702 Posted December 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, ged in the onion bag said: I hope he’s good for us but he doesn’t know football and analytics are less effective in this sport than baseball. They have a use but need staff who can interpret them and use them to good effect…. Also, they (may) detract from actual physical scouting which I think must be the main focus. Not saying he won’t be good for us and time will tell but if he can’t see that massive change in direction is required right now, not in 3 years, again that’s a concern. IMO. That’s the analytics that Brentford (and Brighton, I think?) have so successfully used? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,702 Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, Graham Paddons Beard said: Anyone hounding Delia , or anyone else , would be classless . Anyone questioning the comments she made during the recent interview would be perfectly reasonable. Not difficult. Questioning reasonably is fine. Many have no idea where the boundary lies, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,306 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Branston Pickle said: That’s the analytics that Brentford (and Brighton, I think?) have so successfully used? Do they also have Soccerbot?..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,702 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Mello Yello said: Do they also have Soccerbot?..... Christ, I hope not for their sakes. It feels the best part of £1m completely wasted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBaldOne66 702 Posted December 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Pugin said: No Norwich City fan throughout its existence will ever do anything more classless than hounding Delia in word and deed. It's deplorable and crass. She deserves to be allowed to make her own exit in her own time which, in her 83rd year, she knows is upon her. It's not like leaving a building, she's stepping away in a process that needs to be right and meticulous, and cannot be rushed. Show some respect and decency. You mean like she showed respect and decency to the fans? She is the one causing it with her crass remarks ffs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,485 Posted December 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Pugin said: No Norwich City fan throughout its existence will ever do anything more classless than hounding Delia in word and deed. It's deplorable and crass. She deserves to be allowed to make her own exit in her own time which, in her 83rd year, she knows is upon her. It's not like leaving a building, she's stepping away in a process that needs to be right and meticulous, and cannot be rushed. Show some respect and decency. I agree with this. Although I think it doesn't exempt her from criticism which her very recent comments rightly have earnt her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,297 Posted December 2, 2023 4 hours ago, hogesar said: Whilst it would have been much easier and the better decision for Delia not to make those comments, you have to question the sensitivity of some posters on here who have recently referred to her as "an old cow" and a "hag" yet can't handle being called a bit of a whinger.. Way to miss the point (deliberately) 👏 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,297 Posted December 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: Questioning reasonably is fine. Many have no idea where the boundary lies, though. Example? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,458 Posted December 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: Questioning reasonably is fine. Many have no idea where the boundary lies, though. Ok. I’m not interested in those people , but I’m not sure there are “many”. Before you ask I have no idea exactly how many. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,297 Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, Graham Paddons Beard said: Ok. I’m not interested in those people , but I’m not sure there are “many”. Before you ask I have no idea exactly how many. There isn’t, it’s a completely unfounded statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 857 Posted December 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: That’s the analytics that Brentford (and Brighton, I think?) have so successfully used? We’ve been dabbling very unsuccessfully. Just because it’s worked for them doesn’t mean it’ll work for us. Like I said, it needs competence to interpret the data and to implement it. No evidence we have that sadly. Those clubs are also working with completely different budgets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 857 Posted December 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: That’s the analytics that Brentford (and Brighton, I think?) have so successfully used? By the way, at least I put forward points and arguments to explain my opinion, most don’t and often can’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harry53 212 Posted December 2, 2023 4 hours ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: Sorry...but age is irrelevent She and her husband must be judged on their performances as club owners If theyre too old or cant take the criticism in the posts that they hold, its time for them to stand down If everyone waits for them to act at their own pace, we'll be in league one How do you suggest they stand down? Who will buy their shares? It's not that simple Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,702 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said: There isn’t, it’s a completely unfounded statement. I You’ve seen ‘X’, formerly Twitter? It’s completely ‘founded’. As to ‘many’, how many do you want/is ok? Just one is more than it should be. Edited December 2, 2023 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mannings bandy legs 399 Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Iwans Big Toe said: Did she never? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,766 Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, S_81 said: You also have to question why you leap to the defence of these people to the degree that you do every time. Vested interest perhaps 2 hours ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: Employee 😉 1 hour ago, S_81 said: I think so. It’s too obvious. Even a fan who was fond of the likes of Webber or Delia, or far too proud to acknowledge his support/opinions have proved to be wrong at times, would not leap on as many comments as he does in the way he does it. It’s a really conscious pattern of trying to shut down criticism. Goes beyond just occasional disagreement. I dont work for the club 😅😅😅😅😅 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,458 Posted December 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: I You’ve seen ‘X’, formerly Twitter? It’s completely ‘founded’. As to ‘many’, how many do you want/is ok? Just one is more than it should be. “One” isn’t “many” is it ? “One too many” however seems more than a little appropriate given the recent interview. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites