Ashley Barnes

[dylanisabaddog 6,133]

Some very funny comments from Burnley fans on this Facebook post

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0NTXcgBmuTqHpsB5njmfUJUydBCvfYmezcxfEXQYmGF4QBXmCMPqiPq7rQ1mZmZ2al&id=100063660725615&sfnsn=scwspmo

[Nexus_Canary 1,206]

I saw this on Facebook a week ago. He's a pair of **** we have arguably lacked since Bradley Johnson left 

[TheGunnShow 7,376]

Tells you they liked him as a player if they're still following him and relishing in that attitude. He and Sargent should be a spiky and downright awkward pair to play against with their workrate.

[Capt. Pants 5,006]

It's even better if that fight and passion rubs off on other players. Crikey did we miss that last season.

 

[lake district canary 4,825]

It's funny though, I've been told by some that you're not a proper fan if you show interest in ex-players. Seems other clubs have fans who do that too. Who'd have thought it.....

[lake district canary 4,825]

Ash the Bash! Like it.

[norfolkngood 1,174]

58 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

Tells you they liked him as a player if they're still following him and relishing in that attitude. He and Sargent should be a spiky and downright awkward pair to play against with their workrate.

I get what you saying everything starts with Passion and workrate but we need Goals out of these two and lots of them 

[cambridgeshire canary 7,797]

Booked for dissent the other night too. Seems like the kind of player we have been missing.

[TheGunnShow 7,376]

1 hour ago, norfolkngood said:

I get what you saying everything starts with Passion and workrate but we need Goals out of these two and lots of them 

If their workrate and pressure gets everyone else up the pitch, the goals may well come - and not just from those two.

Part of our problem is that we were dependent on a cutting pass to get a player in and didn't really have much else as a means of attack. Usually that player was Pukki running off a shoulder. Sargent showed flashes of it but there's no shame in not being in Pukki's league for that re. game intelligence and movement.

I'd like to see some more crosses going in, either from wingers or an overlapping full-back. With Stacey looking like he hits a tasty range of right-footed out-swingers, I'd expect all our strikers to be notching up some headers (which Pukki could never give us). With Duffy, a player renowned for his attacking headers, I'd expect a few more goals from set-pieces instead of the obligatory one per season from Hanley (from heck knows how many).

I would expect Barnes and his hold-up play to really get the wingers into the mixer. Rowe showed plenty of aggression and willingness to get inside and rip it against Alkmaar, and it took a very smart save from a thunderous drive to deny him.

[norfolkngood 1,174]

1 minute ago, TheGunnShow said:

If their workrate and pressure gets everyone else up the pitch, the goals may well come - and not just from those two.

Part of our problem is that we were dependent on a cutting pass to get a player in and didn't really have much else as a means of attack. Usually that player was Pukki running off a shoulder. Sargent showed flashes of it but there's no shame in not being in Pukki's league for that re. game intelligence and movement.

I'd like to see some more crosses going in, either from wingers or an overlapping full-back. With Stacey looking like he hits a tasty range of right-footed out-swingers, I'd expect all our strikers to be notching up some headers (which Pukki could never give us). With Duffy, a player renowned for his attacking headers, I'd expect a few more goals from set-pieces instead of the obligatory one per season from Hanley (from heck knows how many).

I would expect Barnes and his hold-up play to really get the wingers into the mixer. Rowe showed plenty of aggression and willingness to get inside and rip it against Alkmaar, and it took a very smart save from a thunderous drive to deny him.

Oh i Agree the whole midfield needs shifting up the pitch ,

Sara and Mclean waiting outside the box for knockdowns bad clearances  etc 

But i think for that shift and overlapping fullbacks we need a sitting CDM to help when the ball breaks 

[TheGunnShow 7,376]

1 hour ago, norfolkngood said:

Oh i Agree the whole midfield needs shifting up the pitch ,

Sara and Mclean waiting outside the box for knockdowns bad clearances  etc 

But i think for that shift and overlapping fullbacks we need a sitting CDM to help when the ball breaks 

Precisely, two spiky grafters up top will get the midfield up the pitch. 

At that point, the question is "overlapping full-backs or inverted full-backs". Personally, I'd like one to cut in and one to overlap and one of the midfielders staying back ten yards or so. We often had both full-backs barrelling up to widen the pitch out.

[Nexus_Canary 1,206]

28 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

It's funny though, I've been told by some that you're not a proper fan if you show interest in ex-players. Seems other clubs have fans who do that too. Who'd have thought it.....

Posted by Burnley plastics obviously....duh

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

I'm liking the nature of our Summer signings more and more. We'll likely see a very different Norwich City this coming season from the last.

We would seem to need a so-called marquee signing as the icing on the cake, a creative midfielder or an exciting young goal-grabber. Perhaps Sainz was the former and, of course we have Sara well-embedded as he approaches his second and first full season in the yellow. Ditto Nunez, who might surprise, but could disappoint.

It is my feeling that we won't achieve anything this season however unless that cdm spot is finally filled properly.

[jaberry2 769]

I think the consensus is we are still 2/3 players away from properly having a competitive team. We have multiple options on the wing, all currently (which are fit) having a question mark hanging over them of whether they can play there or compete at this level. I would say we may need another CB, a winger, creative forward player and a more defensive minded midfielder, albeit thats four signings 🙂

I think the front pair of Barnes and Sargeant should cause enough goal threat providing they remain fit. If one gets injured relying on the likes of Idah for goals is most likely to disappoint. 

[norfolkngood 1,174]

5 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

I'm liking the nature of our Summer signings more and more. We'll likely see a very different Norwich City this coming season from the last.

We would seem to need a so-called marquee signing as the icing on the cake, a creative midfielder or an exciting young goal-grabber. Perhaps Sainz was the former and, of course we have Sara well-embedded as he approaches his second and first full season in the yellow. Ditto Nunez, who might surprise, but could disappoint.

It is my feeling that we won't achieve anything this season however unless that cdm spot is finally filled properly.

I think you get the CDM right and it will Unleash the other players 

Full backs can bomb forward as the have cover 

Midfielders ( sara and Mclean ) can push higher as they have cover 

CB's not so exposed because they have cover in front 

[norfolkngood 1,174]

2 minutes ago, jaberry2 said:

 

I think the front pair of Barnes and Sargeant should cause enough goal threat providing they remain fit. If one gets injured relying on the likes of Idah for goals is most likely to disappoint. 

Idah is either going to have a blinding season or a season where he fails to impress once again ,

it is either he gets a chance scores some goals turns a corner or Sarge gets injured or misses some games and we go on a bad run ,

i think and i am Hopeful that he might even challenge for No 9 starting role !! i think this must be his season ,

i have nothing to back that up of course just a feeling ! 

[jaberry2 769]

1 minute ago, norfolkngood said:

Idah is either going to have a blinding season or a season where he fails to impress once again ,

it is either he gets a chance scores some goals turns a corner or Sarge gets injured or misses some games and we go on a bad run ,

i think and i am Hopeful that he might even challenge for No 9 starting role !! i think this must be his season ,

i have nothing to back that up of course just a feeling ! 

I hope you are right, but I have seen nothing to date to prove that might be the case either much of last season or with respect in the limited pre season. 

[norfolkngood 1,174]

2 minutes ago, jaberry2 said:

I hope you are right, but I have seen nothing to date to prove that might be the case either much of last season or with respect in the limited pre season. 

I Know neither have , i blind faith i think !!! 

[tricky974 63]

Cant see Idah scoring more than 5 goals this season and that would include cup games.

[cambridgeshire canary 7,797]

1 minute ago, tricky974 said:

Cant see Idah scoring more than 5 goals this season and that would include cup games.

And to think that's only one goal off of the number of goals he's scored for us in four years

[tricky974 63]

1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

And to think that's only one goal off of the number of goals he's scored for us in four years

I know i was being generous

[jaberry2 769]

I havent watched too much of pre season, but has there been a fixed formation Wagner has opted for? Or is he trying multiples? For example the pressing need for a striker is less needed if playing one up front, Sargeant for example with Barnes behind him, however I thought we played 4-4-2 recently which would indicate we would need a good third option which in my view Idah isnt good enough currently.

[Google Bot 3,927]

1 hour ago, tricky974 said:

Cant see Idah scoring more than 5 goals this season and that would include cup games.

You do worry about him when you see footage like this:

It's like going to a Smurfs fancy dress party as The Hulk.

Edited July 20, 2023 by Google Bot

[TheGunnShow 7,376]

1 hour ago, Google Bot said:

You do worry about him when you see footage like this:

It's like going to a Smurfs fancy dress party as The Hulk.

Might win some fun-king headers then. 😛

[shefcanary 2,950]

1 hour ago, TheGunnShow said:

If their workrate and pressure gets everyone else up the pitch, the goals may well come - and not just from those two.

As I said on another thread, the more I see of pre-season, the more confident I am getting. A little bit of creative spark (Sara?) and we might even be title contenders, but at the moment we will be there or thereabouts as play-off contenders.

[ZLF 335]

Fans hated this trait in Buendia but now it's applauded. 

 

But I guess when the overall squad quality and tactics combine to reduce us to a mid table side physicality and **** housery becomes more important. 

[shefcanary 2,950]

Just now, ZLF said:

Fans hated this trait in Buendia but now it's applauded. 

Buendia's feistiness was mainly caused by irritation with his own poor play, a veritable rush of blood to the head. Whereas Barnes' seems more calculated than that (as was WFLGH before him). It breaks play up and allows the team around him to regather their thoughts.

[keelansgrandad 6,680]

2 minutes ago, ZLF said:

Fans hated this trait in Buendia but now it's applauded. 

 

But I guess when the overall squad quality and tactics combine to reduce us to a mid table side physicality and **** housery becomes more important. 

I bet you could count those fans on one hand. Emi's combatitive nature pleased the majority and most wanted the rest to follow. It was Emi stopping and waving his arms that was annoying.

[It's Character Forming 1,204]

Just now, shefcanary said:

Buendia's feistiness was mainly caused by irritation with his own poor play, a veritable rush of blood to the head. Whereas Barnes' seems more calculated than that (as was WFLGH before him). It breaks play up and allows the team around him to regather their thoughts.

I agree about Barnes (hopefully) and that was absolutely the case for WFLGH.  With Buendia I felt he was often wound up by the opposition fouling him and ended up sometimes getting himself sent off which was frustrating.  But you could always tell he was passionate and that's certainly not a bad thing.

[rock bus 1,058]

27 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

Buendia's feistiness was mainly caused by irritation with his own poor play, a veritable rush of blood to the head. Whereas Barnes' seems more calculated than that (as was WFLGH before him). It breaks play up and allows the team around him to regather their thoughts.

completely right, Buendia's petulance was often to the detriment of his and the team's performance. In contrast with Holt (and potentially Barnes) it was a real positive. He would wind up the opposition and it would lead to them making mistakes or committing fouls which was to our advantage. I always loved how within a few seconds Holt would go from looking like a man who could happily hold off the entire opposition players to one who could be blown over by a small breeze (all done with a knowing wink/smile to the crowd and the opponent!)