mr footy 36 Posted July 16, 2023 For the first time ever I'm not excited about watching this squad of players.w e have no stand out players to get you off your seat.Ireally hope that I I'm proved wrong and we gel quickly and play attacking football from the start .Having watched the some of the pre season games we look OK but nothing special. I think it's going to be a long season of a lot of effort from the players but only a mid table outcome at best.Maybe . 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,545 Posted July 16, 2023 Nunez is the one hope I have for that special bit of quality. We know he has it - that volleyed goal he scored was amazing piece of skill.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 857 Posted July 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, lake district canary said: Nunez is the one hope I have for that special bit of quality. We know he has it - that volleyed goal he scored was amazing piece of skill.Ā This quality needs to be on tap though, not once or twice a season. Ā Ā Sadly itās not! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,792 Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) Poor kit with poor squad quality to match. Will be a long season. Have hopes we might break into the top seven but with no defensive midfielder signing and no real creativity up top I too don't have too much hope. Edited July 16, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr footy 36 Posted July 16, 2023 One thing is for certain we will top the charts most weeks for workrateĀ and sprints as most of our managers squads do,this will be key as season go's on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,545 Posted July 16, 2023 Let's see what Wagner can do. He and Webber put together a team that played us off the park at CR a few seasons ago. I'm notĀ confident, but there is hope!Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,276 Posted July 16, 2023 I'm looking to Wagner and Co to lay down some sort of playing style we can all get behind. It's very early days and certainly can't be judged on pre-season. Ultimately results are everything but it isn't going to be Farkeball.Ā Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 642 Posted July 16, 2023 The issue last season is we had a weak mentality and conceded soft goals. At the moment with the signings made we are looking to address that weakness. If can tighten up at the back and not be such a soft touch that is 10 more points on last year straight away. Although it might be unpopular and a downgrade on previous campaigns players such as Sara, Sargent, Hernandez and Nunez are capable of assisting and scoring goals at this level. Yes not to extend to win automatic promotion but to get us in and around the playoffs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,683 Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) Imo itās all just too early to say - Iāve never read much into pre-season and never will; ,play sides off the park and itās usually a false dawnĀ followed by a poor season, and vice versa. Ā It might not be exciting, but weĀ need to see it for what it is: heavy training sessions and (at this stage) matches mostly about getting fitness up to scratch. Ā One thing we do seem to lack is a bit of creativity, but we do have Sara missing and Iām sure several other players will be heading in. Ā Edited July 16, 2023 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,940 Posted July 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ulfotto said: The issue last season is we had a weak mentality and conceded soft goals. At the moment with the signings made we are looking to address that weakness. If can tighten up at the back and not be such a soft touch that is 10 more points on last year straight away. Although it might be unpopular and a downgrade on previous campaigns players such as Sara, Sargent, Hernandez and Nunez are capable of assisting and scoring goals at this level. Yes not to extend to win automatic promotion but to get us in and around the playoffs. Duffy's own goal against Kings Lynn must classify as one of the softest, and certainly the most ridiculous, we have seen in the last two years. OK, so that was probably (hopefully) just a fluke, but when does a fluke become a pattern? Those soft goals were a pattern last season, not a sequence of freak occurrences. It'll take a lot more than tightening up at the back to change that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,683 Posted July 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, canarybubbles said: Duffy's own goal against Kings Lynn must classify as one of the softest, and certainly the most ridiculous, we have seen in the last two years. OK, so that was probably (hopefully) just a fluke, but when does a fluke become a pattern? Those soft goals were a pattern last season, not a sequence of freak occurrences. It'll take a lot more than tightening up at the back to change that. Crikey, thatās scraping the barrel a little - in 4 preseason games weāve conceded 2 goals including that one (which was purely just a misunderstanding of where his keeper was), so it does feel we have concentrated on that a bit. Ā But it is only preseason, so who knows. I think people are generally more concerned about creativity at the other end. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,940 Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Branston Pickle said: Crikey, thatās scraping the barrel a little - in 4 preseason games weāve conceded 2 goals including that one (which was purely just a misunderstanding of where his keeper was), so it does feel we have concentrated on that a bit. Ā But it is only preseason, so who knows. I think people are generally more concerned about creativity at the other end. I agree about creativity being the greater concern. However, it'll take more than a few friendlies to make me think our defence is not a Ā co*k-up waiting to happen. The early signs are positive, but it's not that simple to eliminate those mistakes. We were well ahead of the whole league in terms of stupid defensive errors last season. And once you go one behind, the lack of creativity becomes even more worrying.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,446 Posted July 16, 2023 Whilst the focus to date in pre-season isĀ building strength and fitness for the season ahead, the work on formations and creativity is hopefully still to come. But as I mentioned in another thread, even of things click the way Wagner wants, I don't expect us to be playing beautiful football 90 minutes every match. If they don't click, it will be a very long season hiding behind our hands!Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,480 Posted July 16, 2023 To be a fly on the wall at the first āhow do we blame all this on the fansĀ strategy meetingā of the season next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unhinged Canary 375 Posted July 16, 2023 5 hours ago, lake district canary said: Let's see what Wagner can do. We've already seen a fair bit of what Wagner can do. It wasn't great.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 236 Posted July 16, 2023 2 wins against the scum and avoiding relegation will be a good result this seasonĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton canary 134 Posted July 16, 2023 Need a goal poacher in my opinion, loan out Idah, need money coming in for that though so fingers crossed, but not holding my breath!Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Starr 520 Posted July 16, 2023 I think we'll be better defensively this season. Stacey looks quality. Duffy is decent too. I'm slightly concerned as to where the goals are coming from. I think Sara, Nunez, McClean are capable of chipping in with 4 or 5 goals each. Hernandez maybe 2 or 3. Barnes we can hope for double numbers (10), Sarg maybe 10 also but then what? We'll be well short. I can't see any of the other players getting more than 1 or 2 in a season. Idah won't get 10 so where are the goals coming from? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul101 94 Posted July 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Michael Starr said: I think we'll be better defensively this season. Stacey looks quality. Duffy is decent too. I'm slightly concerned as to where the goals are coming from. I think Sara, Nunez, McClean are capable of chipping in with 4 or 5 goals each. Hernandez maybe 2 or 3. Barnes we can hope for double numbers (10), Sarg maybe 10 also but then what? We'll be well short. I can't see any of the other players getting more than 1 or 2 in a season. Idah won't get 10 so where are the goals coming from? Idah might get 10 games injured for every 1 he plays Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,940 Posted July 16, 2023 Idah might just manage ten if we're talking binary numbers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwearyCanary 1,179 Posted July 16, 2023 Iām optimistic, because Iām always optimistic at the start of a new season, otherwise what the actual f*** is the point?Ā Weird how some talk about having a āpoor kitā as someĀ reason why not to be hopeful. Armchair sitting doom-mongering key board warrior types that never go to games.Ā It might be underwhelming, it might be sh*** or it might be great. Either way Iāll be just as optimistic next July about the season to come.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inch High aka Inchy.. 409 Posted July 17, 2023 We've got to go through 36 gamesĀ of "give them time to gel" comments yet. Every other team is "gelled before the season starts but our squads take 36 weeks more apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites