Not feeling optimistic yet.

[mr footy 36]

For the first time ever I'm not excited about watching this squad of players.w e have no stand out players to get you off your seat.Ireally hope that I I'm proved wrong and we gel quickly and play attacking football from the start .Having watched the some of the pre season games we look OK but nothing special. I think it's going to be a long season of a lot of effort from the players but only a mid table outcome at best.Maybe .

[lake district canary 4,531]

Nunez is the one hope I have for that special bit of quality. We know he has it - that volleyed goal he scored was amazing piece of skill. 

[ged in the onion bag 855]

3 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

Nunez is the one hope I have for that special bit of quality. We know he has it - that volleyed goal he scored was amazing piece of skill. 

This quality needs to be on tap though, not once or twice a season.    Sadly it’s not!

[cambridgeshire canary 6,720]

Poor kit with poor squad quality to match. Will be a long season.

Have hopes we might break into the top seven but with no defensive midfielder signing and no real creativity up top I too don't have too much hope.

Edited July 16, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary

[mr footy 36]

One thing is for certain we will top the charts most weeks for workrate and sprints as most of our managers squads do,this will be key as season go's on.

[lake district canary 4,531]

Let's see what Wagner can do. He and Webber put together a team that played us off the park at CR a few seasons ago. I'm not confident, but there is hope! 

[Capt. Pants 4,234]

I'm looking to Wagner and Co to lay down some sort of playing style we can all get behind. It's very early days and certainly can't be judged on pre-season.

Ultimately results are everything but it isn't going to be Farkeball. 

 

[Ulfotto 634]

The issue last season is we had a weak mentality and conceded soft goals. At the moment with the signings made we are looking to address that weakness. If can tighten up at the back and not be such a soft touch that is 10 more points on last year straight away.

Although it might be unpopular and a downgrade on previous campaigns players such as Sara, Sargent, Hernandez and Nunez are capable of assisting and scoring goals at this level. Yes not to extend to win automatic promotion but to get us in and around the playoffs.

[Branston Pickle 3,659]

Imo it’s all just too early to say - I’ve never read much into pre-season and never will; ,play sides off the park and it’s usually a false dawn followed by a poor season, and vice versa.  It might not be exciting, but we need to see it for what it is: heavy training sessions and (at this stage) matches mostly about getting fitness up to scratch.  

One thing we do seem to lack is a bit of creativity, but we do have Sara missing and I’m sure several other players will be heading in.

 

Edited July 16, 2023 by Branston Pickle

[canarybubbles 1,915]

9 minutes ago, Ulfotto said:

The issue last season is we had a weak mentality and conceded soft goals. At the moment with the signings made we are looking to address that weakness. If can tighten up at the back and not be such a soft touch that is 10 more points on last year straight away.

Although it might be unpopular and a downgrade on previous campaigns players such as Sara, Sargent, Hernandez and Nunez are capable of assisting and scoring goals at this level. Yes not to extend to win automatic promotion but to get us in and around the playoffs.

Duffy's own goal against Kings Lynn must classify as one of the softest, and certainly the most ridiculous, we have seen in the last two years. OK, so that was probably (hopefully) just a fluke, but when does a fluke become a pattern? Those soft goals were a pattern last season, not a sequence of freak occurrences. It'll take a lot more than tightening up at the back to change that.

[Branston Pickle 3,659]

14 minutes ago, canarybubbles said:

Duffy's own goal against Kings Lynn must classify as one of the softest, and certainly the most ridiculous, we have seen in the last two years. OK, so that was probably (hopefully) just a fluke, but when does a fluke become a pattern? Those soft goals were a pattern last season, not a sequence of freak occurrences. It'll take a lot more than tightening up at the back to change that.

Crikey, that’s scraping the barrel a little - in 4 preseason games we’ve conceded 2 goals including that one (which was purely just a misunderstanding of where his keeper was), so it does feel we have concentrated on that a bit.  But it is only preseason, so who knows.

I think people are generally more concerned about creativity at the other end.

[canarybubbles 1,915]

1 minute ago, Branston Pickle said:

Crikey, that’s scraping the barrel a little - in 4 preseason games we’ve conceded 2 goals including that one (which was purely just a misunderstanding of where his keeper was), so it does feel we have concentrated on that a bit.  But it is only preseason, so who knows.

I think people are generally more concerned about creativity at the other end.

I agree about creativity being the greater concern. However, it'll take more than a few friendlies to make me think our defence is not a  co*k-up waiting to happen. The early signs are positive, but it's not that simple to eliminate those mistakes. We were well ahead of the whole league in terms of stupid defensive errors last season. And once you go one behind, the lack of creativity becomes even more worrying. 

[shefcanary 2,409]

Whilst the focus to date in pre-season is building strength and fitness for the season ahead, the work on formations and creativity is hopefully still to come. But as I mentioned in another thread, even of things click the way Wagner wants, I don't expect us to be playing beautiful football 90 minutes every match. If they don't click, it will be a very long season hiding behind our hands! 

[The Real Buh 3,432]

To be a fly on the wall at the first “how do we blame all this on the fans strategy meeting” of the season next week.

[Unhinged Canary 375]

5 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Let's see what Wagner can do.

We've already seen a fair bit of what Wagner can do.

It wasn't great....

[Bert 236]

2 wins against the scum and avoiding relegation will be a good result this season 

[stratton canary 134]

Need a goal poacher in my opinion, loan out Idah, need money coming in for that though so fingers crossed, but not holding my breath! 

[Michael Starr 519]

I think we'll be better defensively this season. Stacey looks quality. Duffy is decent too. I'm slightly concerned as to where the goals are coming from. I think Sara, Nunez, McClean are capable of chipping in with 4 or 5 goals each. Hernandez maybe 2 or 3. Barnes we can hope for double numbers (10), Sarg maybe 10 also but then what? We'll be well short. I can't see any of the other players getting more than 1 or 2 in a season. Idah won't get 10 so where are the goals coming from?

[Paul101 93]

5 minutes ago, Michael Starr said:

I think we'll be better defensively this season. Stacey looks quality. Duffy is decent too. I'm slightly concerned as to where the goals are coming from. I think Sara, Nunez, McClean are capable of chipping in with 4 or 5 goals each. Hernandez maybe 2 or 3. Barnes we can hope for double numbers (10), Sarg maybe 10 also but then what? We'll be well short. I can't see any of the other players getting more than 1 or 2 in a season. Idah won't get 10 so where are the goals coming from?

Idah might get 10 games injured for every 1 he plays

[canarybubbles 1,915]

Idah might just manage ten if we're talking binary numbers.

[SwearyCanary 1,179]

I’m optimistic, because I’m always optimistic at the start of a new season, otherwise what the actual f*** is the point? 

Weird how some talk about having a ‘poor kit’ as some reason why not to be hopeful. Armchair sitting doom-mongering key board warrior types that never go to games. 

It might be underwhelming, it might be sh*** or it might be great. Either way I’ll be just as optimistic next July about the season to come. 

[Inch High aka Inchy.. 405]

We've got to go through 36 games of "give them time to gel" comments yet.

Every other team is "gelled before the season starts but our squads take 36 weeks more apparently.