A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted March 27, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10655909/Uniteds-Glazer-family-sink-new-low-four-percent-fans-supporting-owners.html#comments Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,761 Posted March 27, 2022 But I've been assured the majority want Delia Out and have done for years? And the only reason we've not heard a peep at the ground is...well, they're all busy people and they've not yet found the time to do so 🙃 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,745 Posted March 27, 2022 54 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10655909/Uniteds-Glazer-family-sink-new-low-four-percent-fans-supporting-owners.html#comments The poll should be taken with extreme caution. All of these newspaper polls where people can chose whether or not to respond are unlikely to produce a representative sample. In other words, it is a heavily skewed sample. It is a bit of fun, but tells us little about what fans think, just the same as the Pink Un poll last week. Glad to se that at least a few Leicester have concerns about their owners links to the Thai regime. They tend to get overlooked in the "new moralism" surrounding football club owners. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted March 27, 2022 83% is impressive, even when taken 'with extreme' caution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 792 Posted March 27, 2022 A daily mail Survey, great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,826 Posted March 27, 2022 1 hour ago, A Load of Squit said: 83% is impressive, even when taken 'with extreme' caution. Agreed. It appears that a lot of people think it suits the club, the city and the county to have at the helm people with such a community/family approach. It may not be enough for some who want to see a harder approach, but you could name any club anywhere and you will find it hard to find one that is more based on solid foundations. it ain't perfect, nothing ever is, but name me a club that has no debt or no dubious funding or no owners who are only in it for the money - and you will be hard pressed to do it. Best owners in the land? Yes, imo. Like I said, nothing is perfect, but it is a hundred times better than most clubs. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mengo 852 Posted March 27, 2022 https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1488525777280847873?s=20&t=cV3mLaIvI3NSrCR6XDNcqg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted March 27, 2022 I genuinely think 83% genuinely don’t care who the owners are as long as they’re happy with where the clubs at! In my opinion this is the most disconnected this club and the fans have been since 2010! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted March 27, 2022 I suppose if you're in the 17% who disapprove of the Socilaists it's hard to take that you're so out of touch with the fan base that your opinion is not what the silent majority think. 83% of the fans don't agree with you, must be difficult to take. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerationA47 864 Posted March 27, 2022 Just now, A Load of Squit said: I suppose if you're in the 17% who disapprove of the Socilaists it's hard to take that you're so out of touch with the fan base that your opinion is not what the silent majority think. 83% of the fans don't agree with you, must be difficult to take. At times like these the old biblical phrase concerning empty vessels always seems so relevant 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted March 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, GenerationA47 said: At times like these the old biblical phrase concerning empty vessels always seems so relevant There's plenty of biblical references on the boy Moses thread. I expect the 17% will have to search for their own Damascene moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted March 27, 2022 3 hours ago, hogesar said: But I've been assured the majority want Delia Out and have done for years? And the only reason we've not heard a peep at the ground is...well, they're all busy people and they've not yet found the time to do so 🙃 Sorry to intrude on yet another bout of fan bashing sarcasm from you but could you tell us how many Daily Mail reading Norwich City fans amongst the fan base took part in this survey. This is the paper that is known as the Daily Fail i take it ? As for me and i suspect thousands and thousands of other City fans wev were blissfully unaware of this survey. Were those who took part season ticket holders or attendees at games home or away of the clubs ? 20 clubs in the Premier attracted a total of 100,000 responses or put it another way an average of 5,000 per club but it must be fair to assume that the larger clubs like Man Utd and Liverpool for example attracted a higher number than the average of 5,000 but of course feel free to scew it however you want. I have yet to read on this thread that in fact Delia's approval rating as an owner failed to make the top 10 of those 20 clubs.Funny how also some clubs used as a measure by some on here as having owners we wouldn't touch with a b ar5ge pole managed to make that top 10. All a matter of context i suppose depending on which sit of the fence you sit on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted March 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Sorry to intrude on yet another bout of fan bashing sarcasm from you but could you tell us how many Daily Mail reading Norwich City fans amongst the fan base took part in this survey. This is the paper that is known as the Daily Fail i take it ? As for me and i suspect thousands and thousands of other City fans wev were blissfully unaware of this survey. Were those who took part season ticket holders or attendees at games home or away of the clubs ? 20 clubs in the Premier attracted a total of 100,000 responses or put it another way an average of 5,000 per club but it must be fair to assume that the larger clubs like Man Utd and Liverpool for example attracted a higher number than the average of 5,000 but of course feel free to scew it however you want. I have yet to read on this thread that in fact Delia's approval rating as an owner failed to make the top 10 of those 20 clubs.Funny how also some clubs used as a measure by some on here as having owners we wouldn't touch with a b ar5ge pole managed to make that top 10. All a matter of context i suppose depending on which sit of the fence you sit on. One of the 17%, 'they didn't ask me so it can't be true'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,959 Posted March 27, 2022 2 hours ago, A Load of Squit said: I suppose if you're in the 17% who disapprove of the Socilaists it's hard to take that you're so out of touch with the fan base that your opinion is not what the silent majority think. 83% of the fans don't agree with you, must be difficult to take. OTBC 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,761 Posted March 27, 2022 44 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Sorry to intrude on yet another bout of fan bashing sarcasm from you but could you tell us how many Daily Mail reading Norwich City fans amongst the fan base took part in this survey. This is the paper that is known as the Daily Fail i take it ? As for me and i suspect thousands and thousands of other City fans wev were blissfully unaware of this survey. Were those who took part season ticket holders or attendees at games home or away of the clubs ? 20 clubs in the Premier attracted a total of 100,000 responses or put it another way an average of 5,000 per club but it must be fair to assume that the larger clubs like Man Utd and Liverpool for example attracted a higher number than the average of 5,000 but of course feel free to scew it however you want. I have yet to read on this thread that in fact Delia's approval rating as an owner failed to make the top 10 of those 20 clubs.Funny how also some clubs used as a measure by some on here as having owners we wouldn't touch with a b ar5ge pole managed to make that top 10. All a matter of context i suppose depending on which sit of the fence you sit on. You may be taking this way too seriously. Its a Sunday for crying out loud 😅 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,145 Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: One of the 17%, 'they didn't ask me so it can't be true'. Meanwhile they seem to think a few hundred turnout at St Andrews Hall some years ago was some sort of a ‘majority’ of fans. It’s always interesting how things work depending on your point of view. That said, nearly everything in the Mail is utter ****, so who knows. Edited March 27, 2022 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,751 Posted March 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Badger said: The poll should be taken with extreme caution. All of these newspaper polls where people can chose whether or not to respond are unlikely to produce a representative sample. In other words, it is a heavily skewed sample. It is a bit of fun, but tells us little about what fans think, just the same as the Pink Un poll last week. Glad to se that at least a few Leicester have concerns about their owners links to the Thai regime. They tend to get overlooked in the "new moralism" surrounding football club owners. Yeah, some guy for Sporting Intel tweeting a link out isn't hugely scientific. I've said before I'd love to see some proper and detailed polling done our fanbases opinions on a few things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 1,039 Posted March 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Indy said: I genuinely think 83% genuinely don’t care who the owners are as long as they’re happy with where the clubs at! In my opinion this is the most disconnected this club and the fans have been since 2010! I genuinely disagree with you. I think that there is a significant proportion of our fan base who care that the owners reflect the values that they themselves have and to some that is even more important than the league position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted March 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, king canary said: Yeah, some guy for Sporting Intel tweeting a link out isn't hugely scientific. I've said before I'd love to see some proper and detailed polling done our fanbases opinions on a few things. 83% is impressive even if it isn't 'hugely scientific'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,751 Posted March 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: 83% is impressive even if it isn't 'hugely scientific'. Not really in my view. It isn't impressive or unimpressive, its just irrelevant. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted March 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, king canary said: Not really in my view. It isn't impressive or unimpressive, its just irrelevant. One of the 17%, 'it's not my view therefore it's irrelevant'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted March 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: Meanwhile they seem to think a few hundred turnout at St Andrews Hall some years ago was some sort of a ‘majority’ of fans. It’s always interesting how things work depending on your point of view. That said, nearly everything in the Mail is utter ****, so who knows. I was told that was ancient history on here when it was referenced a few weeks ago but the ' they ' you mention was a majority of those 500 who attended in fact way more than the 83% being lauded on here as approving of the owners. Nowhere did i ever see that published as a ' majority ' unless you can tell me otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted March 27, 2022 44 minutes ago, hogesar said: You may be taking this way too seriously. Its a Sunday for crying out loud 😅 Are you saying then that as it is a Sunday your post was somewhat flippant and a throwaway remark not to be taken in anyway seriously although of course my opinion is that the content is par for the course for you ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted March 27, 2022 @Crafty Canary is an avid daily mail reader so he was probably responsible for many of the votes... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted March 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, cornish sam said: I genuinely disagree with you. I think that there is a significant proportion of our fan base who care that the owners reflect the values that they themselves have and to some that is even more important than the league position. You could be correct, but I don’t think anyone actually specifically wanted Delia as our owner she came forwards at the time along with her other half, bought in and here we are 25 years later! If that had been someone else I’m not sure anyone would really care? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,751 Posted March 27, 2022 27 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: One of the 17%, 'it's not my view therefore it's irrelevant'. Not at all. It's slightly more relevant than the poll done on here that Badger mentioned but I'd have said the same of the result had been different Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mengo 852 Posted March 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: @Crafty Canary is an avid daily mail reader so he was probably responsible for many of the votes... Absolute top man Nutty 👏💯😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,761 Posted March 27, 2022 35 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Are you saying then that as it is a Sunday your post was somewhat flippant and a throwaway remark not to be taken in anyway seriously although of course my opinion is that the content is par for the course for you ? 😅 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted March 27, 2022 83% is impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland Canary 78 Posted March 27, 2022 83% is impressive. Goes to show how aligned the fan base, board and level of ambition are correlated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites