Chelsea fans really are pure scum

[Ken Hairy 4,335]

I hope their grubby club goes bust 

 

https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/norwich-city-fan-bloodied-eye-after-assault-chelsea-8751692

[cambridgeshire canary 7,932]

Did you really think I would not have posted so already?😉

 

[Ken Hairy 4,335]

37 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Did you really think I would not have posted so already?😉

 

I was posting for the number of posters who probably have you on ignore 😜

[Mackrel829 24]

Don't taint the whole club with the actions of few. Those Chelsea fans are scum. That doesn't mean the rest are.

[hogesar 10,949]

11 minutes ago, Mackrel829 said:

Don't taint the whole club with the actions of few. Those Chelsea fans are scum. That doesn't mean the rest are.

I dont have much more respect for the other 2000 who were singing Abramovichs name, to be fair.

[cambridgeshire canary 7,932]

53 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

I was posting for the number of posters who probably have you on ignore 😜

That's.. You know what fair enough

[nutty nigel 7,963]

1 minute ago, hogesar said:

I dont have much more respect for the other 2000 who were singing Abramovichs name, to be fair.

They tried to bat that away by saying it was a minority. Tuchel thinks it can all be put right by adding support of Ukraine in the vacant space on their shirts. This will of course make him feel more comfortable as the dirty Russian money flows into his bank account.

[Monty13 2,796]

4 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

They tried to bat that away by saying it was a minority. Tuchel thinks it can all be put right by adding support of Ukraine in the vacant space on their shirts. This will of course make him feel more comfortable as the dirty Russian money flows into his bank account.

Bet there’s a fair few Norwich fans that would have taken that “dirty Russian money” anytime up to a few weeks ago if it was on offer. I think the point stands that the actions of the club/owner and an unknown proportion of fans is not a fair reason to lump all fans of that club together.

[nutty nigel 7,963]

Just now, Monty13 said:

Bet there’s a fair few Norwich fans that would have taken that “dirty Russian money” anytime up to a few weeks ago if it was on offer. I think the point stands that the actions of the club/owner and an unknown proportion of fans is not a fair reason to lump all fans of that club together.

Yes a very few weeks ago.

What percentage would you say were chanting his name on Thursday?

It didn't just stop in the stadium either. I witnessed Chelsea fans taunting people with this chant both before and after the game.

[Monty13 2,796]

12 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Yes a very few weeks ago.

What percentage would you say were chanting his name on Thursday?

It didn't just stop in the stadium either. I witnessed Chelsea fans taunting people with this chant both before and after the game.

People are idiots, this is nothing new. I’m just saying I agree I don’t think it’s fair when an entire group gets tarred with the same brush as a proportion of them deserve.

Also while I detest Abramovich, where he got his money from, his politics, beliefs, associations and his affect on football, I don’t think people are chanting his name, the same way they have done for years, to show any support for Russia or against Ukraine. Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by stupidity seems pretty appropriate.

[nutty nigel 7,963]

4 minutes ago, Monty13 said:

People are idiots, this is nothing new. I’m just saying I agree I don’t think it’s fair when an entire group gets tarred with the same brush as a proportion of them deserve.

Also while I detest Abramovich, where he got his money from, his politics, beliefs, associations and his affect on football, I don’t think people are chanting his name, the same way they have done for years, to show any support for Russia or against Ukraine. Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by stupidity seems pretty appropriate.

Fair enough. You obviously weren't there. But you're entitled to think that.

 

 

[Monty13 2,796]

5 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Fair enough. You obviously weren't there. But you're entitled to think that.

 

 

I didn’t realise all Chelsea’s supporters were.

[nutty nigel 7,963]

Just now, Monty13 said:

I didn’t realise all Chelsea’s supporters were.

Fair enough. I don't know any so can only say what I see.

[littleyellowbirdie 3,148]

To be honest, with no rational justification, there's something about Abramovich that I just quite like; I've just never felt he's a bad person and I've never heard him support Putin either.

I'm very pleased we're hammering Russia after doing nothing over Chrimea, though.

[TIL 1010 5,303]

Just remember you can always tell a Londoner.......................but not a lot. 😜

Edited March 12, 2022 by TIL 1010

[cambridgeshire canary 7,932]

52 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

To be honest, with no rational justification, there's something about Abramovich that I just quite like; I've just never felt he's a bad person and I've never heard him support Putin either.

I'm very pleased we're hammering Russia after doing nothing over Chrimea, though.

Don't forget the time that Russian backed and trained 'Separtists' shot down a passeger plane killing 298 innocent people. Or you know that time Russia sent some agents here to England to Salisbury to execute British agents via posion and thus contaminating an entire city.

 

Russia has been playing with fire for too long, fact is they got away with both of those so thought they could get away with Ukraine glad to see thats not the case

[Graham Paddons Beard 2,886]

I stopped posting on here. It’s largely pointless and the debate has disappeared. Posters who believe themselves to have intellectual superiority are the worst. But I digress . 
Thanks to Nutty Nigel for posting that video from Michael Bailey . I think he caught the mood perfectly . It has so moved me , that I’ve logged in to show my support of his words 

The Chelsea fans were almost exclusively, a bunch of white , 25-5O males . So what I hear you say? Well it occurred to me that it’s mostly white males of this age currently fighting in Ukraine . And I wondered how many of them would feel like being conscripted into the Russian military and fighting on the front line ?. Firing misfiles at schools and hospitals in supper  of their hero ,who has inextricable links to Putin and always has done .  
 

The premier league lost  it’s moral compass years ago. Players still feign head injuries as a matter of course , completely supported by those with their snouts in the trough. At the same time “football” celebrates (quite rightly) Christian Eriksen . 
 

The premier league brand turns a blind eye to where the money supporting the brand comes from; the owners , the sponsors , the corruption that surrounds world football. 

But 

The behaviour of the Chelsea fans was ,  even by football standards , a new low. Like Nutty says , I think you had to be there to really absorb it . The chanting all along Riverside , outside the ground and in the away end was , well , mind numbing. I was blown away by it . I didn’t expect to hear it . I was wrong . 
 

Nothing will happen to Chelsea . The authorities will find a way. They always do. Fact is that the dirty Russian Money has bought the club what they have , and the 1.5 billion debt will just disappear. But that isn’t really the point . 
 

The point is the complete lack of humility of Chelsea Football Club, the players , the club and the fans . 
 

That’s  it . I feel better now . I’ll log off again before someone tells me that all external investors charge 9% interest and the club shouldn’t seek extra funds . The fact that Delia and Micheal (a very very shrewd businessman) made an investment 25 years ago seems to have been lost on many . 

 

Edited March 12, 2022 by Graham Paddons Beard

[nutty nigel 7,963]

2 hours ago, Graham Paddons Beard said:

I stopped posting on here. It’s largely pointless and the debate has disappeared. Posters who believe themselves to have intellectual superiority are the worst. But I digress . 
Thanks to Nutty Nigel for posting that video from Michael Bailey . I think he caught the mood perfectly . It has so moved me , that I’ve logged in to show my support of his words 

The Chelsea fans were almost exclusively, a bunch of white , 25-5O males . So what I hear you say? Well it occurred to me that it’s mostly white males of this age currently fighting in Ukraine . And I wondered how many of them would feel like being conscripted into the Russian military and fighting on the front line ?. Firing misfiles at schools and hospitals in supper  of their hero ,who has inextricable links to Putin and always has done .  
 

The premier league lost  it’s moral compass years ago. Players still feign head injuries as a matter of course , completely supported by those with their snouts in the trough. At the same time “football” celebrates (quite rightly) Christian Eriksen . 
 

The premier league brand turns a blind eye to where the money supporting the brand comes from; the owners , the sponsors , the corruption that surrounds world football. 

But 

The behaviour of the Chelsea fans was ,  even by football standards , a new low. Like Nutty says , I think you had to be there to really absorb it . The chanting all along Riverside , outside the ground and in the away end was , well , mind numbing. I was blown away by it . I didn’t expect to hear it . I was wrong . 
 

Nothing will happen to Chelsea . The authorities will find a way. They always do. Fact is that the dirty Russian Money has bought the club what they have , and the 1.5 billion debt will just disappear. But that isn’t really the point . 
 

The point is the complete lack of humility of Chelsea Football Club, the players , the club and the fans . 
 

That’s  it . I feel better now . I’ll log off again before someone tells me that all external investors charge 9% interest and the club shouldn’t seek extra funds . The fact that Delia and Micheal (a very very shrewd businessman) made an investment 25 years ago seems to have been lost on many . 

 

Spot on Beardo and great to see you posting.👍

[Ken Hairy 4,335]

4 hours ago, Monty13 said:

 I think the point stands that the actions of the club/owner and an unknown proportion of fans is not a fair reason to lump all fans of that club together.

Whilst this is true, and all clubs have their idiots, some have more than their fair share, Chelsea like Millwall are one of those clubs. 

[OnDaBall 141]

To be honest, as disgusting as it is, are we really surprised at how the Chelsea fans are behaving?

Or in the future, if the Man City and Newcastle owners are ever called out for what they really are and kicked out of our game, instead of welcomed with open arms for the blood money they bring with them.

It just shows you that sportwashing works, when you have thousands of assumingly British people, most of which living in our capital city, singing the name of someone who has close links with Putin, just because well he seems like a nice bloke and has brought their team untold success, it proves it. We are all seeing daily what is truly happening in Ukraine, the man that these morons are chanting for, has close links to a man who has just basically threatened the whole world with nuclear annihilation, that's everyone, even Chelsea fans. I'm sure Roman has a nice luxury bunker somewhere, I doubt a Chelsea season ticket would get you in there. 

Do you think Man City or Newcastle fans care, or even bother to look into what/who their owners are and stand for?

As for the sports media, I find them more disgusting than the Chelsea fans, they can't wait to jump on the Roman hating bandwagon, only a month ago i'm sure they like the chelsea fans, thought, he's a nice bloke, look at all the good he's done for our game, Talk Sport up until now would have rather that only teams with owners such as him should be in the EPL, they don't want a club like Norwich, who dare to try to self fund compete lowering the standard of the beautiful product that is the EPL

I'm sure that if in the light of this Shearer was confronted about the ownership of Newcastle, he would all of a sudden get very defensive, but it's no different really, they all knew how Roman got his wealth, but turned a blind eye, just as they are with Man City and Newcastle.

Sorry for the rant, but well I haven't had my morning coffee yet.

OTBC

Edited March 13, 2022 by OnDaBall

[KernowCanary 214]

Shame Man United are not owned by Russians as well, as they deserve the same also.

Punching a 73 year old on the other hand all over a football match, really is the lowest of the low however.

[tea total 87]

17 hours ago, Monty13 said:

Bet there’s a fair few Norwich fans that would have taken that “dirty Russian money” anytime up to a few weeks ago if it was on offer. I think the point stands that the actions of the club/owner and an unknown proportion of fans is not a fair reason to lump all fans of that club together.

All the Chelsea fans knew how RA got his money from but they didn`t bother asking too many questions so as far as I`m concerned they`re all in the same boat. It`s only now that some fans are starting to distance themselves from the dirty money. It`s like saying sorry when you`ve been caught doing something wrong. The greed of football is out of control so yeah...I hope they go bust!!!

 

[corbs 147]

Would be nice to see the club make a gesture towards this fan and his son, hospitality offer (if he accepts).  One hopes that assaults around football matches get the same priority as any other assault by the Constabulary. 

[Monty13 2,796]

17 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Don't forget the time that Russian backed and trained 'Separtists' shot down a passeger plane killing 298 innocent people. Or you know that time Russia sent some agents here to England to Salisbury to execute British agents via posion and thus contaminating an entire city.

 

Russia has been playing with fire for too long, fact is they got away with both of those so thought they could get away with Ukraine glad to see thats not the case

Those actions got sanctioned and condemnation, it’s just this time the act is far worse so the sanctions and condemnation has ratcheted up to the maximum.

Unfortunately though I don’t agree with what you are saying in terms of them not getting away with it.

The world is not willing (quite rightly) to directly take Russia on so it’s down to Ukraine. Yes they have the worlds support, including arms, but ultimately whether Ukraine remains a fully independent country depends on the strength of Ukrainians.

[Naturalcynic 817]

11 minutes ago, Monty13 said:

Those actions got sanctioned and condemnation, it’s just this time the act is far worse so the sanctions and condemnation has ratcheted up to the maximum.

Unfortunately though I don’t agree with what you are saying in terms of them not getting away with it.

The world is not willing (quite rightly) to directly take Russia on so it’s down to Ukraine. Yes they have the worlds support, including arms, but ultimately whether Ukraine remains a fully independent country depends on the strength of Ukrainians.

The line in the sand should have been drawn after Crimea in 2014.  Sadly it wasn’t.  The use of nerve agent in Salisbury was an attack on NATO territory, yet there was no threat of a military response from the West.  When the “little green men” moved into the Donbas a few years ago, what did the West do?  Next to nothing.  The ongoing policy of Russia to force migration from its puppet state in Syria towards the West is met with silence.  Every time Putin makes a threat, the West, and in particular Biden, blinks.  How much longer do you advocate that the world continues not to confront Putin?  Appeasing psychopathic dictators is never a good thing.

[daly 555]

2 hours ago, KernowCanary said:

Shame Man United are not owned by Russians as well, as they deserve the same also.

Punching a 73 year old on the other hand all over a football match, really is the lowest of the low however.

Well with all the cctv it should not be difficult to find the yob.

What happens then when and if he is brought to court is another matter 

Another slap on  the wrist 

Edited March 13, 2022 by daly

[KernowCanary 214]

1 minute ago, daly said:

Well with all the cctv it should not be difficult to find the yob.

What happens then when and if he is brought to court is another matter 

Another slap on  the wrist 

That’s all it will be, some stupid fine.

[daly 555]

3 minutes ago, KernowCanary said:

That’s all it will be, some stupid fine.

Which never get paid

[Monty13 2,796]

Just now, Naturalcynic said:

The line in the sand should have been drawn after Crimea in 2014.  Sadly it wasn’t.  The use of nerve agent in Salisbury was an attack on NATO territory, yet there was no threat of a military response from the West.  When the “little green men” moved into the Donbas a few years ago, what did the West do?  Next to nothing.  The ongoing policy of Russia to force migration from its puppet state in Syria towards the West is met with silence.  Every time Putin makes a threat, the West, and in particular Biden, blinks.  How much longer do you advocate that the world continues not to confront Putin?  Appeasing psychopathic dictators is never a good thing.

I agree reactions to earlier Russian aggression wasn’t strong enough, but at this point what do you do?

He’s not just a psychopathic dictator, he’s one with nuclear weapons who has literally threatened to use them.

[Trevor Hockey's Beard 613]

5 minutes ago, Naturalcynic said:

The line in the sand should have been drawn after Crimea in 2014.  Sadly it wasn’t.  The use of nerve agent in Salisbury was an attack on NATO territory, yet there was no threat of a military response from the West.  When the “little green men” moved into the Donbas a few years ago, what did the West do?  Next to nothing.  The ongoing policy of Russia to force migration from its puppet state in Syria towards the West is met with silence.  Every time Putin makes a threat, the West, and in particular Biden, blinks.  How much longer do you advocate that the world continues not to confront Putin?  Appeasing psychopathic dictators is never a good thing.

This is for a different message-board, but as you've raised this here I will have to challenge you on this. Biden is in a tricky position as Putin has already made several threats to escalate things to Nuclear War if NATO get involved, and Putin has shown that he is unstable and unpredictable.

Yes the West should have acted more strongly when Russia annexed Crimea, which was on Obama and Biden's watch, but just be thankful that a few brave Republicans resisted the pressure to throw out the result of the 2020 election in the USA, because Trump, acting under influence from Moscow, was planning to withdraw the USA from NATO during his second term.

In reality we are already fighting with Russia, it is just via a third party, the Ukraine.