TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted December 29, 2021 Well.... is he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,835 Posted December 29, 2021 Yes'nt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 519 Posted December 29, 2021 He does work hard, and is more physical than Marco. Before he arrived he looked to have good potential, in the flesh I think Marco created more. I just hope Josh comes good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WD40 720 Posted December 29, 2021 Josh faster and harder working, Marco more intelligent and could supply Pukki. But Marco couldn’t get near the team in prem and wasn’t the same player after covid so redundant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,486 Posted December 29, 2021 Steipermann is well better than Sargent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,300 Posted December 29, 2021 Distinctly different players in different positions and at different stages of their career so I'm not really sure how you can compare. Stieps took a while to peak with us and if anything that peak was short lived but even so was a very important player for us. Josh needs time. I've been critical of him, but you can't knock his workrate and I hope he achieves a bit of success with us. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,552 Posted December 29, 2021 Different kinds of player, but Sargent ought to be more effective at PL level than Stiepermann and has youth on his side to improve and develop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,029 Posted December 29, 2021 The Stiepermann that scamper-stumbled and sliced his way through Championship defences in 18/19 was better than Sargent and was, for me at least, one of our best players that season in that whilst Pukki got the plaudits for his excellent finishing, Stiepi either set him up directly or had created space with his ability to dribble or willingness to hit early passes to Cantwell or Buendia for the direct assist. The Stiepermann that was riddled with the after-effects of Epstein-Barr was anaemic and seemed to gas after 60 of less intense effort. Sargent has quite a few things in common with a peak Stiepi as I'd said in a previous post, namely that ability to run with and without the ball in an unorthodox manner, often with the odd shaky touch in there, with an opponent or two grimly hanging on for dear life, was also good at getting his foot in high up the pitch for causing turnovers, and liked chasing a defender or two down to give them the hurry-up. Not to mention being quite magnificently one-footed to a fault. Sargent gives us an even better workrate in both directions than a peak Stiepi, certainly gives us more physical strength and probably a bit more out-and-out pace so in physical terms he's undoubtedly an upgrade for me. One of Stiepi's most annoying weaknesses was that for such a tall guy, he was comparatively poor in the air. Sargent looks like he can give us a fair bit here too. However, Stiepi had something of an eye for a killer ball, and wasn't a bad player to have floating around on the edge of the box for some first-time shots. In a Norwich team that sometimes fell in love with the idea of walking it in, someone who was happy enough to wind up and rip one from the edge of the box was a useful weapon to have. Sargent's seemed willing to hit some, but to no effect yet. Summa summarum, he's not performed as an upgrade yet, but the material is there to be something of an improvement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 1970 208 Posted December 29, 2021 This sums up for me that you havent a clue fella. Totally different players in every way. Another persons threads to ignore. Clueless. I bet you never played the game, or definitely not past pub hoofball standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted December 29, 2021 37 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: Distinctly different players in different positions and at different stages of their career so I'm not really sure how you can compare. Stieps took a while to peak with us and if anything that peak was short lived but even so was a very important player for us. Josh needs time. I've been critical of him, but you can't knock his workrate and I hope he achieves a bit of success In terms of what they would have offered us this season, to keep it simple. Would Stiepermann have offered us any less? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, spencer 1970 said: This sums up for me that you havent a clue fella. Totally different players in every way. Another persons threads to ignore. Clueless. I bet you never played the game, or definitely not past pub hoofball standard. Go one then chap, let's see your Wikipedia entry, I'm expecting a glittering footballing cv. As far as I can see Sargent played most of his football in Germany as a second striker, how is that different!! Edited December 29, 2021 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,256 Posted December 29, 2021 I really liked Marco, but he didn’t provide a single goal or assist in 24 Premier League appearances. Appreciate he may have been ill for part of that but on evidence he was ineffective at this level. That all said, Sargent’s record is no better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,232 Posted December 29, 2021 A fully fit Marco was great for us in the championship, but like virtually everyone else he really struggled to get to grips with the prem. I think given his fitness concerns letting him leave was best for everyone, Mario on the other hand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 751 Posted December 29, 2021 He’s not better than Onel Hernandez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coneys Knee 996 Posted December 29, 2021 Stiepermann is streets ahead of Sargent Vrancic is streets, no miles ahead of PLM Srbeny is streets ahead of Idah Hernandez is streets ahead of Tzolis hell, Leitner and Trybull are streets ahead of Gilmour That’s not to say we should have necessarily kept those players BUT it just highlights how unbelievably poor our recruitment has been. it’s actually shocking how we’ve managed it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nora's Ghost 157 Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) I would rather stay patient with Sargent than any other of Webber's wonders anyway. He's young, enthusiastic and full of running and if he could improve that final touch he could be very handy. Edited December 29, 2021 by Nora's Ghost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sooty57 405 Posted December 29, 2021 Probably better than Todd would be in the NFL 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingsway 94 Posted December 29, 2021 Look at the end product of both and then the answer is NO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazzaJet 256 Posted December 29, 2021 I don’t think he is yet but is only 21 and I think will benefit massively from a season in the Championship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites