I, for one, am in an absolute blind panic

[thebigfeller 200]

That the biggest managerial decision this club has made in a long, long, long, LONG time is gonna take another 48 or 72 hours to be announced.

With the difference between relegation and staying up being some trivial amount of money which any of us can find down the back of our sofas, I just can't understand why they've taken their time over such a huge decision. They needed to announce it yesterday to please The Sun, talkSPORT and some bedwetters on the internet. Because they are who matter here.

I, for one, have never heard of it taking a few days to finalise a new coaching staff - especially when one of them's at another club. In fact, I've never heard of anyone's job taking a few days to finalise in any walk of life. I mean, it's never happened to any of us, has it?

And I really, really, really can't understand why Farke was sacked barely minutes into the international break. None of what's happened since has shown why we needed all the time possible, has it? We should've kept him on so he didn't get the chance to say goodbye to the players, then told him to **** off 5 minutes before the new man walked through the door. That would've been the decent, kind, empathetic thing to do. I'm so disgusted at how nasty we were instead, giving him a proper, emotional send-off with the squad. Who do the directors think they are?

Lastly, I'd just like to place on record my dismay at how much the delay must be destroying our players. It was obviously desperately important for the new manager to be unveiled today when many of them won't be back until the middle of next week. I mean, he could've worked on our shape, our pressing etc via Zoom calls with them halfway around Europe and in no way focused on something else. Something which is absolutely meaningless to all of them.

We're ****ed now. Club's a joke and Webber's a ****. Obviously. Some bloke down the pub told me so, so it must be true.

Edited November 12, 2021 by thebigfeller

[lake district canary 4,831]

Lol. Talk about over the top. The issue is not just the sacking of Farke, it is why he was sacked at all unless there was clearly someone that Webber had earmarked for the job.  Just sacking and hoping there was going to be someone out there who might be a good fit seems bizzarre, given that Daniel was a larger than life figure and the real soul at the heart of our success over four years - a very hard man to replace.  

Now if Lampard was seen as that man all along, then I could understand it, but why in that case would he be seen as the right man?  What has he done that suggests he could do better than DF?  

 

Edited November 12, 2021 by lake district canary

[AJ 1,359]

It's almost like the fans don't want the club to take their time and ensure the appointment is the right one. Southampton is still an eternity away, a new manager can stamp their thoughts on things within a couple of days

[Hoolahoop14 124]

Very good!

[AJ 1,359]

2 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

Lol. Talk about over the top. The issue is not just the sacking of Farke, it is why he was sacked at all unless there was clearly someone that Webber had earmarked for the job.  Just sacking and hoping there was going to be someone out there who might be a good fit seems bizzarre, given that Daniel was a larger than life figure and the real soul at the heart of our success over four years - a very hard man to replace.  

Now if Lampard was seen as that man all along, then I could understand it, but why in that case would he be seen as the right man?  What has he done that suggests he could do better than DF?  

 

Daniel has left big boots to fill on and off the pitch, that's for sure. He really got the ethos of the club, and if anything improved it as well as instil it everywhere he went. I certainly don't believe Lampard will be doing the same and have said in multiple threads he is not my choice by any means, I feel Smith would be a better fit if it had to be one of those two

[lake district canary 4,831]

28 minutes ago, AJ said:

Daniel has left big boots to fill on and off the pitch, that's for sure. He really got the ethos of the club, and if anything improved it as well as instil it everywhere he went. I certainly don't believe Lampard will be doing the same and have said in multiple threads he is not my choice by any means, I feel Smith would be a better fit if it had to be one of those two

Yep, echoes my thoughts exactly.

[Jim Smith 2,610]

I’m not in a blind panic but this is amateurish stuff. The timing and nature of Farkes departure suggested we had someone in the bag. That this is not the case is quite staggering really.

 

[Monty13 2,736]

34 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

Lol. Talk about over the top. The issue is not just the sacking of Farke, it is why he was sacked at all unless there was clearly someone that Webber had earmarked for the job.  Just sacking and hoping there was going to be someone out there who might be a good fit seems bizzarre, given that Daniel was a larger than life figure and the real soul at the heart of our success over four years - a very hard man to replace.  

Now if Lampard was seen as that man all along, then I could understand it, but why in that case would he be seen as the right man?  What has he done that suggests he could do better than DF?  

 

You need to get over Farke.

He was sacked because is record at this level was nothing short of abysmal.

[Danke bitte 1,155]

Ahh it was a lampoon… a simple lampoon… 

[1902 1,167]

I agree with the OP, club hasn't appointed someone sooner than they said they would, leaving a whole message board with not enough to worry about/too much to worry about.

Shambles.

Edited November 12, 2021 by 1902

[lake district canary 4,831]

2 minutes ago, Monty13 said:

He was sacked because is record at this level was nothing short of abysmal.

No. It wasn't. He had a terrible start, partly through the fixtures and partly htrough players coming in late.....he fought back and we had 5 points in five games, representing an improvement in results.   And if someone mentions the weak squad, injury ravaged, covid interupted season as having any bearing on anything meaningful for this season, then they are plainly not seeing the bigger picture.

[pete 371]

OP don't worry yourself we are going to be relegated the new incumbent needs to be comfortable in Championship football.  Deano more likely to fancy it than Frankie.

[Monty13 2,736]

1 minute ago, lake district canary said:

No. It wasn't. He had a terrible start, partly through the fixtures and partly htrough players coming in late.....he fought back and we had 5 points in five games, representing an improvement in results.   And if someone mentions the weak squad, injury ravaged, covid interupted season as having any bearing on anything meaningful for this season, then they are plainly not seeing the bigger picture.

Yes it was. You can make all the excuses you want but no other manager would have had 50 games in charge at this level with even close to that poor a record. It’s abysmal.

1 points a game is the absolute minimum standard at this level to survive and the fact you are pointing to a 5 game span out of 11 where we’ve achieved it as some sort of vindication is baffling. We need to do a lot better than that now to survive because of the other 6 games.

Farke had been given all the time and support and he hadn’t produced. Whether he should be sacked and who should replace him are two separate questions. Clubs got one right. Now it needs to get the other.

[AJ 1,359]

7 minutes ago, Monty13 said:

Yes it was. You can make all the excuses you want but no other manager would have had 50 games in charge at this level with even close to that poor a record. It’s abysmal.

1 points a game is the absolute minimum standard at this level to survive and the fact you are pointing to a 5 game span out of 11 where we’ve achieved it as some sort of vindication is baffling. We need to do a lot better than that now to survive because of the other 6 games.

Farke had been given all the time and support and he hadn’t produced. Whether he should be sacked and who should replace him are two separate questions. Clubs got one right. Now it needs to get the other.

I certainly don't feel the decision to sack him was the wrong one, he was on borrowed time after the Chelsea and then Leeds defeats so it made total sense to try something different as clearly it isn't working in the PL. The way they did it, however, was poor and as others have said, if we had announced a new manager the next day as if it was all done and dusted in advance then fair enough, but clearly no progress was made and we simply sacked him in that manner just to buy ourselves more time

[keelansgrandad 6,680]

1 hour ago, AJ said:

It's almost like the fans don't want the club to take their time and ensure the appointment is the right one. Southampton is still an eternity away, a new manager can stamp their thoughts on things within a couple of days

Yet apparently Coaches can't stamp their thoughts on new players who have to wait to get a game.

And I don't want them to take their time over Dean Smith. We could have kept DF if that is the case.

 

[Monty13 2,736]

Just now, AJ said:

I certainly don't feel the decision to sack him was the wrong one, he was on borrowed time after the Chelsea and then Leeds defeats so it made total sense to try something different as clearly it isn't working in the PL. The way they did it, however, was poor and as others have said, if we had announced a new manager the next day as if it was all done and dusted in advance then fair enough, but clearly no progress was made and we simply sacked him in that manner just to buy ourselves more time

I didn’t like the timing of it either. You want him gone, sack him before Brentford and leave a caretaker in charge in my opinion, honourable thing. However being ruthless and leaving him in charge probably did give us the best chance to get some points. It’s just a cold move.

I don’t agree on the new manager. If they sounded someone out I get it, but was always going to take days to get resolved. I think the concern is are one or both parties getting cold feet/being difficult because you’d imagine if it was like Villa and Gerrard it would be done by now.

 

[Thumbbass 367]

To all those with soggy Y-fronts, have you ever recruited someone, or applied for a job? Due-diligence (which could have been partially performed prior to official talks), organising mutually convenient times, places to talk, backward and forward on terms. If it was done overnight it would have been half baked. A week is not a long time.

[sgncfc 1,330]

Just now, Thumbbass said:

To all those with soggy Y-fronts, have you ever recruited someone, or applied for a job? Due-diligence (which could have been partially performed prior to official talks), organising mutually convenient times, places to talk, backward and forward on terms. If it was done overnight it would have been half baked. A week is not a long time.

Strange then that Villa did it in 5 days.....

[AJ 1,359]

3 minutes ago, Monty13 said:

I don’t agree on the new manager. If they sounded someone out I get it, but was always going to take days to get resolved. I think the concern is are one or both parties getting cold feet/being difficult because you’d imagine if it was like Villa and Gerrard it would be done by now.

 

I agree on that, but then it makes sacking Farke in that manner even more odd. Maybe a day or two after the game, there seemed little need to do it immediately after the poor blokes first win of the season he'd been trying his hardest to achieve 

[Monty13 2,736]

6 minutes ago, AJ said:

I agree on that, but then it makes sacking Farke in that manner even more odd. Maybe a day or two after the game, there seemed little need to do it immediately after the poor blokes first win of the season he'd been trying his hardest to achieve 

I’m not sure, decisions been made, sometimes just need to rip the plaster off. At least that way he got to say goodbye to the players.

[lake district canary 4,831]

12 minutes ago, Thumbbass said:

To all those with soggy Y-fronts, have you ever recruited someone, or applied for a job? Due-diligence (which could have been partially performed prior to official talks), organising mutually convenient times, places to talk, backward and forward on terms. If it was done overnight it would have been half baked. A week is not a long time.

If you know who you want, all it takes is a phone call.

[yellow_belly 227]

5 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

If you know who you want, all it takes is a phone call.

It has been face to face. Relax LDC 

[Thumbbass 367]

3 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

If you know who you want, all it takes is a phone call.

Errr.... nope, that is absolute rubbish. You do take a bashing on here and I generally steer well away from it but that is a ridiculous thing to say!

[hogesar 10,767]

54 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

I’m not in a blind panic but this is amateurish stuff. The timing and nature of Farkes departure suggested we had someone in the bag. That this is not the case is quite staggering really.

 

It's really not.

[Thumbbass 367]

8 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

If you know who you want, all it takes is a phone call.

[yellow_belly 227]

9 minutes ago, hogesar said:

It's really not.

Chillax my friend.

[Mello Yello 2,572]

..."Don't Panic!...Don't Panic!...Don't Panic!".......

[HoolaOHoolahan 21]

I still think Daniel Farke is a much better coach than either Lampard or Smith. Maybe a change was needed, but if you get an inferior manager, what is the point?

[Gordon Bennett 914]

5 minutes ago, HoolaOHoolahan said:

I still think Daniel Farke is a much better coach than either Lampard or Smith. Maybe a change was needed, but if you get an inferior manager, what is the point?

I think managers get into a rut eventually and they change is needed, fresh ideas and impetus to galvanise things. A fresh approach to get the best out of the players at the club. DF had fifty odd games to get it right in the PL and it just wasn't working, a change was needed. 

I'm not sure any of the three in the frame are inferior to DF but time will tell either here or elsewhere. 

[C.I.D 358]

55 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

If you know who you want, all it takes is a phone call.

I wouldn't say No to a night with Jennifer Lopez tbh.......have you got her number please?