New Tory Leader

[Midlands Yellow 3,994]

I’d rather vote for Nutty than Boris. 

[PurpleCanary 5,562]

Today's Downing Street spin is that the Gray Report will be more damning than previously thought. Hmm. A genuine fear and not really spin, or a genuine fear so being spun to diminish the report's impact, or pure spin so when the report isn't that damning it will be treated as a vindication?🤓

[Barry Brockes 147]

If the report includes the evidence Cummings claims he has that Boris knew about the party in the garden before it took place it will be interesting to see how he can spin his way out of that one.

[Creative Midfielder 1,996]

1 hour ago, PurpleCanary said:

Today's Downing Street spin is that the Gray Report will be more damning than previously thought. Hmm. A genuine fear and not really spin, or a genuine fear so being spun to diminish the report's impact, or pure spin so when the report isn't that damning it will be treated as a vindication?🤓

Very hard to know isn't, all three of those options seem entirely plausible.

Hopefully, it will be more damning that previously thought and I rather suspect that will be the case, if only because given the amount of information already in the public domain, anything other than extremely damning is going to be met with total derision and demands for a proper and genuinely independent investigation which doubtless would result in an even more damning reports/prosecutions.

[PurpleCanary 5,562]

55 minutes ago, Barry Brockes said:

If the report includes the evidence Cummings claims he has that Boris knew about the party in the garden before it took place it will be interesting to see how he can spin his way out of that one.

Johnson has stopped denying he was warned that the party should be cancelled. His latest 'apology' in effect admitted he knew the party was going to be held and admitted he was warned that it shouldn't be held. He fell back on the plainly absurd claim that the warnings didn't not explicitly make clear it shouldn't be held because it was against his government's own covid rules and that he was so incredibly dense he didn't realise that was the reason. This from the prime minister of a country in the G7, a permanent member of the UN security council, and armed with nuclear weapons...

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

If it was his word against Cummings, a liar himself, although apparently believed by Johnson, then he wins. But there is corroboration of what Cummings said. It wouldn't look good if if turned out all the Downing Street staffers were liars.

I think he is going to wait for the letters to go in and ultimately if he is ousted he can cry foul play when he had got the country out of the pandemic etc.

[ricardo 7,395]

31 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

This from the prime minister of a country in the G7, a permanent member of the UN security council, and armed with nuclear weapons...

Look on the bright side, at least he has'nt invaded Iraq.

Yet.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

47 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Look on the bright side, at least he has'nt invaded Iraq.

Yet.

Argentina might get more support.

[Well b back 3,208]

1 hour ago, ricardo said:

Look on the bright side, at least he has'nt invaded Iraq.

Yet.

Or put  up more wallpaper which had no consequences

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

57 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Or put  up more wallpaper which had no consequences

Back to John Lewis after Gray.

[How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,188]

I doubt that Johnson has the humility or courage to resign 

Have the conservative mp's got the balls to take Big Dog to the vets and have him put down, before he shíts all over the house again?

Edited January 21, 2022 by How I Wrote Elastic Man
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[Barry Brockes 147]

There's been a very noticeable swing away from the 'he must go' stance amongst Tory MPs in the last 48 hours with an increasing number now of the opinion that he'll survive his present troubles.

And there's the never-ending mantra of 'let's wait until Sue Gray's report is published', with glee in some cases, which they wouldn't keep trotting out unless they know it will do them no harm.

Edited January 21, 2022 by Barry Brockes
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[Rock The Boat 1,332]

20 hours ago, Well b back said:

Many people would happily give him the info he would need.

In addition the uptake of boosters was meant to see us run out of Pfizer so we bought a load of Moderna. Unfortunately that did not happen and we are desperately trying to get rid off the huge amounts of Pfizer with loads of Moderna just sitting there. Do you really think the offering of boosters to under 30’s then over 16’s then 2nd doses for over 12’s was nothing more than a political stunt. 5 - 11’s soon.

It certainly sounds like they were trying to use up all the vaccines on people who were very unlikely to be hospitalised. In any event, people are making their own personal risk assessments at the moment and unsurprisingly many under-60s are deciding they don't want the booster. I agree with your sentiment that we should be trying to find a country that can take them and have the necessary facilities to handle them.

[A Load of Squit 5,170]

If Ranieri is sacked sometime in the next few hours Norwich will arrange a fixture with the Government.

[BigFish 1,988]

14 hours ago, Barry Brockes said:

There's been a very noticeable swing away from the 'he must go' stance amongst Tory MPs in the last 48 hours with an increasing number now of the opinion that he'll survive his present troubles.

Getting high on their own supply has really got the Tories in a bit of a bind. Since changing the leadership rules 54 MPs need to sign letters of no confidence and then a majority need to vote him out. After that they really don't know who they would get. In the old system the mythical "men in gray suits" would just march up to Downing Street and tell the PM that time was up and who the new PM was going to be.  Not so simple now.

Added to that Johnson retains fanatical support amongst Brexit Party entryists in the Tory party who will be royally  pissed off with anyone who takes him out. It is a situation that is bad for the country but good for Labour in that allows Johnson to limp on, wounded but not finished.

[Well b back 3,208]

15 hours ago, Barry Brockes said:

There's been a very noticeable swing away from the 'he must go' stance amongst Tory MPs in the last 48 hours with an increasing number now of the opinion that he'll survive his present troubles.

And there's the never-ending mantra of 'let's wait until Sue Gray's report is published', with glee in some cases, which they wouldn't keep trotting out unless they know it will do them no harm.

On the way back from Watford had radio 5 on as you do. They reckoned he would go in the next 2-3 weeks claiming all his goals had been met and he was the best PM in history. The experts on there reckoned 3 things 1. The Met will take over and start investigating ( a meeting early next week with mp stating black mail ) 2. Cummings will release something that brings Johnson and others down 3. ( risky ) the mp that defected agrees to a by-election and Labour win a massive landslide, however they went for met getting more involved and Boris going giving his I was great speech.

[Herman 9,777]

 

[Herman 9,777]

I can't believe that after all the overwhelming evidence that the tories were an Islamophobic party they have turned out to be an Islamophobic party.

[Well b back 3,208]

26 minutes ago, Herman said:

I can't believe that after all the overwhelming evidence that the tories were an Islamophobic party they have turned out to be an Islamophobic party.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60100525

[PurpleCanary 5,562]

On 22/01/2022 at 10:49, BigFish said:

Getting high on their own supply has really got the Tories in a bit of a bind. Since changing the leadership rules 54 MPs need to sign letters of no confidence and then a majority need to vote him out. After that they really don't know who they would get. In the old system the mythical "men in gray suits" would just march up to Downing Street and tell the PM that time was up and who the new PM was going to be.  Not so simple now.

Added to that Johnson retains fanatical support amongst Brexit Party entryists in the Tory party who will be royally  pissed off with anyone who takes him out. It is a situation that is bad for the country but good for Labour in that allows Johnson to limp on, wounded but not finished.

I haven't read it but there is a book by Steve Richards on the prime ministers we never had. Those who wanted the job and/or who looked as if they were prime ministerial material, but missed out. And apparently one of Richards' points is that even if the sitting PM is doing very badly it is still very hard to force them out, or hard for the plotters to bring themselves to do the deed.

Even so, probably only 10 years ago Johnson's blatant lies and misdeeds would without question by now have seen him chucked out of Number 10, given the Tory party's legendary pragmatism, but we are indeed in a time of fanatics who value ideological purity over political pragmatism.

[Well b back 3,208]

Now it seems Carrie was breaking the rules both at Downing Street and other venues.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10431271/Carrie-Johnson-dragged-Downing-Street-lockdown-parties-scandal.html

 

Edited January 23, 2022 by Well b back

[Well b back 3,208]

Dear Boris, this is how genuine world leaders respect their citizens. In addition 94% vaccinated wow shows what people will do when they respect you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60100369

[Yellow Fever 3,792]

2 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Dear Boris, this is how genuine world leaders respect their citizens. In addition 94% vaccinated wow shows what people will do when they respect you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60100369

Yes. Lead by example.

 

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

4 hours ago, Well b back said:

Dear Boris, this is how genuine world leaders respect their citizens. In addition 94% vaccinated wow shows what people will do when they respect you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60100369

Yes, Ñew Zealand the country that has built permanent quarantine camps to cage its citizens. What a lovely country that must be. 

[Well b back 3,208]

8 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

Yes, Ñew Zealand the country that has built permanent quarantine camps to cage its citizens. What a lovely country that must be. 

And let the virus spread once they were vaccinated seems a pretty sensible way to do it to me. 

Interesting again that you think the U.K. should be locked down whilst the rules did not apply to the rich and famous, wether you approve or not in New Zealand their leaders have followed the same rules as they have made their citizens live under.

Interesting also that you think a country where their leader said ‘ let the bodies pile high ‘ would be any less lovely.

[Creative Midfielder 1,996]

35 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

Yes, Ñew Zealand the country that has built permanent quarantine camps to cage its citizens. What a lovely country that must be. 

😂😂 Well compared to the UK they've only been in lockdown (which in their case has been mostly local rather than national) for a small fraction of the time that we have, so have had absolutely minimal restrictions placed on them in total contrast to the UK.

They have suffered 52 Covid deaths in 2 years compared to the 175,000ish we have had and ours are still running at a couple of thousand a week.

They experienced only a relatively small economic dip unlike the UK which had the worst slump in the G20 and of course NZ recovered from their dip much faster than the UK which is going backwards again (for the third time?) at the moment.

Also as @Well b back has already pointed they have been significantly more successful than the UK (best in the world vaccine program 😂) in vaccinating their population.

Basically they make us look totally eff**g useless and as @Well b back has also already pointed out the difference in outcomes is also basically down to the sharply contrasting leadership - NZ has a very smart, competent and decisive leader who took the pandemic seriously whilst we have an incompetent, dithering buffoon.

[Icecream Snow 761]

Some more left wing woke unfunny comedy for RTB to hate (well anything criticising the Prime Minster falls into that category for him)

 

[Herman 9,777]

Sue Gray is interviewing the police. Which rather seems a bit ridiculous to me.

[dj11 377]

7 hours ago, Herman said:

Sue Gray is interviewing the police. Which rather seems a bit ridiculous to me.

It appears they were only too willing to provide information. It think it is unlikely to help Johnson. 

[Herman 9,777]

One for Rocky and how they are rotting the British sense of decency and humanity.