mr footy 36 Posted January 18, 2020 We need to move on from var, refs,injuries to players,lack of vocal support at home games,no leadership on pitch etc,etc,etc.these problems will be with most clubs in all leagues.The point I am making is come kick off today there will be 2 teams trying their best to win and 1 will be unlucky in some way if they win draw or lose.This is the way it is and will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted January 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Number9 said: Its not luck Some of it is. Life's complicated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number9 272 Posted January 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, ron obvious said: Some of it is. Life's complicated. To concede 45 goals in the 22 games is not luck or complicated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted January 18, 2020 I will absolutely will not shut up about VAR and refs. If we shut up and just take it the situation will get worse and worse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, The Real Buh said: I will absolutely will not shut up about VAR and refs. If we shut up and just take it the situation will get worse and worse. No it won't they don't have it in the Championship. Godfrey didn't cover himself in glory the view I had of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Capt. Pants said: No it won't they don't have it in the Championship. Godfrey didn't cover himself in glory the view I had of it. Whatever, it’s another soft red in a soft league with soft headed referees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, The Real Buh said: Whatever, it’s another soft red in a soft league with soft headed referees Soft red!! That’s as clear a red card as you could see. An absolute leg breaking challenge 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted January 18, 2020 It wasn't a soft red, it was clear cut as you get. Don't know what Godfrey was trying to do the guy was going nowhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, JF said: Soft red!! That’s as clear a red card as you could see. An absolute leg breaking challenge If you think that’s bang on go and watch netball mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, The Real Buh said: If you think that’s bang on go and watch netball mate Clearly you don’t know the rules of the game. As clear a red card as you could see. There’s no debate to be had on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chumino 57 Posted January 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, The Real Buh said: Whatever, it’s another soft red in a soft league with soft headed referees It was a red. Clearly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Edwards 2,236 Posted January 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chumino said: It was a red. Clearly. So clear that the ref didn’t give it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted January 18, 2020 Just now, Duncan Edwards said: So clear that the ref didn’t give it. And the exact reason that var was introduced. Anyone who has any complaints over that decision are deluded. Awful challenge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chumino 57 Posted January 18, 2020 Just now, Duncan Edwards said: So clear that the ref didn’t give it. Had a look and then yes pulled out his red. Been ok next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nono 19 Posted January 18, 2020 A clear red that was a yellow. Very clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,075 Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) It both was and wasn't a red. In the current rules it was a red card, in what the rules should be - not over protecting a load of prima donna's who fall over and cry when they break a nail - it wasn't. Edit, I actually finished the sentence. Edited January 18, 2020 by All the Germans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Nono said: A clear red that was a yellow. Very clear. Var was introduced to overturn clear and obvious mistakes. In this incident it was spot on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Number9 said: To concede 45 goals in the 22 games is not luck or complicated. Yes it is. We had one (totally inexperienced) centre back for several games at the beginning of the season - & he was playing with a hernia. VAR has just been introduced. Look at the league table without it. We'd be 2 points off 15th. If you think everything in life is under your control you're seriously deluded. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,534 Posted January 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, JF said: Var was introduced to overturn clear and obvious mistakes. In this incident it was spot on So was this "clear and obvious red" more clear and obvious than the one that got overturned against sheff utd? I have my doubts... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: So was this "clear and obvious red" more clear and obvious than the one that got overturned against sheff utd? I have my doubts... To anyone that hasn’t actually seen the challenge on a tv screen id hold your judgement. If it were an opposing player on ours the verdict would be unanimous. Red card all day long and a potential leg breaker Edited January 18, 2020 by JF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted January 18, 2020 Everybody is saying it was a red. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,023 Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) I do not question the Godfrey incident, looked a red card to me.......but why did it take so long to review the penalty?, we could all see from the other end of the pitch that the Bournemouth player made a great save, he did not complain about the red card and just walked off the pitch, yet VAR took an age to review it, absolutely bonkers......... t Edited January 18, 2020 by Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,164 Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Number9 said: To concede 45 goals in the 22 games is not luck or complicated. So you'll be pleased with the clean sheet today. 👍 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,534 Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, JF said: To anyone that hasn’t actually seen the challenge on a tv screen id hold your judgement. If it were an opposing player on ours the verdict would be unanimous. Red card all day long and a potential leg breaker Not disputing what you tv boys saw. Obviously it wasn't clear and obvious to us in the south stand. Just asked the question.. Was it more of a red than the sheff utd one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,075 Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: I do not question the Godfrey incident, looked a red card to me.......but why did it take so long to review the penalty?, we could all see from the other end of the pitch that the Bournemouth player made a great save, he did not complain about the red card and just walked off the pitch, yet VAR took an age to review it, absolutely bonkers......... t They were checking offside in the lead up. PS, seen it on TV and I wouldn't have given a red, even against our player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzar 1,702 Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: I do not question the Godfrey incident, looked a red card to me.......but why did it take so long to review the penalty?, we could all see from the other end of the pitch that the Bournemouth player made a great save, he did not complain about the red card and just walked off the pitch, yet VAR took an age to review it, absolutely bonkers......... t They were also looking at whether Pukki was offside in the build up. Edited January 18, 2020 by Fuzzar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted January 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: Not disputing what you tv boys saw. Obviously it wasn't clear and obvious to us in the south stand. Just asked the question.. Was it more of a red than the sheff utd one? Yes. Late and studs in on the lower leg/ankle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted January 18, 2020 3 15 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: Not disputing what you tv boys saw. Obviously it wasn't clear and obvious to us in the south stand. Just asked the question.. Was it more of a red than the sheff utd one? Just seen it on the Sky Sports app, and yes it was. Still think the Sheffield United one shouldn't have been overturned as it was one of those 'orange card' tackles, but Godfrey's was definitely worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Dutchman 744 Posted January 18, 2020 55 minutes ago, The Real Buh said: Whatever, it’s another soft red in a soft league with soft headed referees Not a chance. Blatant red. You might need to actually change sports because you don't seem to understand the rules of this one if you think that's soft... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites