The Positive Brexit Thread

[Pyro Pete 1,941]

46 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

I suppose if this government is true to form it could stop prescribing to anybody over 82.....

Indeed. After all, getting sick is a lifestyle choice.

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

According to a report from the Institute of Economic Affairs, despite all the gloomy predictions by Remainers and the chaos tales associated with Brexit, EU-UK trade failed to show a “Brexit effect” between 2016 and 2020. UK goods exports had a notable 13.5% boost when heading to EU countries, and an impressive 14.3% increase for non-EU countries from 2019 to 2022.UK services exports posted a remarkable 14.8% rise to EU countries and an impressive 22.1% leap to non-EU countries during the same period. This is despite Remoaners at the OBR predicting a 15% trade volume drop due to Brexit barriers. Not the first time they’ve got things wrong…

Business and Trade Secretary Kemi Badenoch is expected to point to the IEA’s report today at the International Trade Week’s launch event as a reason why she “doesn’t agree with the narrative that Brexit has ‘severely damaged’ our economy.”

Another report shows London continues to reign as the top global destination for those looking to move to start a new job. Three years on, and that supposed exodus of talent is yet to materialise…

[Herman 9,866]

The IEA are another right-wing, Tufton Street, opaquely funded think tank. They are responsible for some of the poor information and misleading stats that brought us brexit and Truss's bonkers budget. Not to be trusted for neither clear nor unbiased analysis.

 

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

2 hours ago, Herman said:

The IEA are another right-wing, Tufton Street, opaquely funded think tank. They are responsible for some of the poor information and misleading stats that brought us brexit and Truss's bonkers budget. Not to be trusted for neither clear nor unbiased analysis.

 

So who do you trust for clear and unbiased analysis?

[benchwarmer 625]

3 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

According to a report from the Institute of Economic Affairs, despite all the gloomy predictions by Remainers and the chaos tales associated with Brexit, EU-UK trade failed to show a “Brexit effect” between 2016 and 2020. UK goods exports had a notable 13.5% boost when heading to EU countries, and an impressive 14.3% increase for non-EU countries from 2019 to 2022.UK services exports posted a remarkable 14.8% rise to EU countries and an impressive 22.1% leap to non-EU countries during the same period. This is despite Remoaners at the OBR predicting a 15% trade volume drop due to Brexit barriers. Not the first time they’ve got things wrong…

It looks as though you're comparing apples with oranges.

1.  The above figures represent monetary value, not volume. 

2.  It is impossible to say whether the figures represent a real increase (or decrease) without knowing whether they have been adjusted for inflation. 

 

 

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

11 minutes ago, benchwarmer said:

It looks as though you're comparing apples with oranges.

1.  The above figures represent monetary value, not volume. 

2.  It is impossible to say whether the figures represent a real increase (or decrease) without knowing whether they have been adjusted for inflation. 

 

 

Ffs, benchwarmer. You Remainiacs told us that Brexit would cause a 15% drop in exports. You were wrong. You told us that Brexit would cause a 4% fall in GDP. You were wrong and don't even get me started on the 800,000 people losing their jobs...

I could go on and on ad infinitum in telling you how much you EU lovers got it wrong, but I have to be honest it's now so tedious.

The bit that really gripes me is we'd have done even better given a full Brexit but for self-interested politicians & civil servants detrimental opposition.

Edited November 6, 2023 by Hook's-Walk-Canary

[Herman 9,866]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/aug/09/lbcs-james-obrien-wins-ofcom-battle-with-institute-of-economic-affairs

 

[Herman 9,866]

7 hours ago, benchwarmer said:

It looks as though you're comparing apples with oranges.

1.  The above figures represent monetary value, not volume. 

2.  It is impossible to say whether the figures represent a real increase (or decrease) without knowing whether they have been adjusted for inflation. 

 

 

From what I can find out they have adjusted for inflation but it looks as if they are passing off inflationary changes as trade. As you say, we need to see the stats for volume. 

[littleyellowbirdie 2,615]

9 hours ago, benchwarmer said:

It looks as though you're comparing apples with oranges.

1.  The above figures represent monetary value, not volume. 

2.  It is impossible to say whether the figures represent a real increase (or decrease) without knowing whether they have been adjusted for inflation. 

 

 

Volume is less important than value; people forget that the point of trade is making money. This is more so when you have an economy geared to high value goods in as much as it's geared to goods exports at all.

Edited November 7, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

On 29/04/2023 at 06:24, MooreMarriot said:

Banks appeal fails on two counts

https://pressgazette.co.uk/media_law/arron-banks-wins-carole-cadwalladr-libel-appeal/

It's actually a 2-1 victory  to Cadwalladr.

 

Herman's favourite journalist loses for the final time: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/carole-cadwalladr-loses-for-the-final-time/

 

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

On 30/11/2022 at 23:47, Well b back said:

EU warns Elon Musk

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63816110

Lols. So much for the EU punishing naughty uncle Elon: they have just paid him €180million to launch their satellites because the Ariane 6 launcher is stuffed:

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/von-der-leyen-euro-recession-germany

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

Latest : Exports from EU’s largest economy are down by 7.5% in one year

If the UK were doing as badly as Germany the BBC would be as happy as foxes in a hen coop

Montage © Facts4EU.Org 2023

Brexit Facts4EU.Org reveals more woes from the EU’s biggest economic hitter

Readers may have blinked and missed this on the BBC, so we thought that the latest news out of the German Federal Government’s statistics agency may be of interest. German exports are down by 7.5% year-on-year.

Last week Destatis reported German export numbers and they are getting worse. Germany accounts for around 30% of the EU’s total GDP from the 27 member countries, so this is bad news for Brussels.

For the EU it’s going from bad to worse

This comes on top of the news that the German economy shrunk in the last quarter (Jul-Sept) and looks headed for a fully-fledged recession. It is now widely forecast to be the worst performer in the G7 this year.

An indication of the effect of Germany’s woes can be seen in the fact that the entire Eurozone’s economy actually fell last quarter, as we reported last week.

Brexit Facts4EU.Org Summary

Exports (calendar and seasonally adjusted German exports of goods), September 2023

 

• €126.5 billion euros
• -2.4% on the previous month
• -7.5% on the same month a year earlier

[Source : Destatis, German federal statistics office.]

© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2023 - click to enlarge

In September 2023, German exports were down 2.4% on a calendar and seasonally adjusted basis compared with the previous month. Based on provisional data, the Federal Statistical Office (Destatis) also reports that exports had decreased by 7.5% from September 2022.

‘Treasure Island’ to the rescue

Most German exports in September 2023 went to the United States. However, after seasonal and calendar adjustment, exports of goods to the US were down 4.0% compared with August 2023, with the value of exports to the US dropping to €12.8 billion euros. Exports to the People's Republic of China decreased by 7.3% to €7.7 billion euros.

It was the UK, known as ‘Treasure Island’, that partially sailed to the rescue, with German exports to the United Kingdom rising by 2.3% to €6.3 billion euros. However, imports from the United Kingdom also increased by 5.2% to €3.2 billion euros during the same period, so the balance of payments effect for the Germans was mitigated.

On a purely nominal basis (not adjusted for calendar or seasonal effects), Germany exported goods to the value of €129.2 billion in September 2023. Compared with September 2022, on this basis exports in September 2023 therefore decreased by 10.5%.

Observations

It is not in the UK’s interests to see the EU’s largest economy in trouble like this. And no-one is suggesting that it will be plain sailing for the UK’s economy next year. This will certainly not be helped by the Chancellor’s massive 31% hike in corporation tax this year, nor by the Bank of England maintaining excessively high interest rates.

That said, the reason we produce reports such as this is because we’re sure readers can imagine how it would be all over the BBC news if the UK’s exports had fallen like those of Germany.

“Despite Brexit” (as they say), the UK’s exports have actually risen, as we reported last month. The UK’s sales to the EU have risen by 51.5% to the EU since the Referendum and by 58% to the rest of the world.

[How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,201]

"Take back control" 😄

 

[horsefly 4,326]

Oh look! Another Brexit bonus. Particularly good news for all us Norfolk folk  who enjoy a stroll across the fields. Nothing like taking in a good breath of fresh air/chemical soup. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/14/uk-to-loosen-post-brexit-chemical-regulations-further?CMP=share_btn_tw

UK to loosen post-Brexit chemical regulations further

Experts warn UK’s regulations now lag behind those of the EU and that Britons will be exposed to more toxic chemicals as a result

[littleyellowbirdie 2,615]

10 hours ago, horsefly said:

Oh look! Another Brexit bonus. Particularly good news for all us Norfolk folk  who enjoy a stroll across the fields. Nothing like taking in a good breath of fresh air/chemical soup. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/14/uk-to-loosen-post-brexit-chemical-regulations-further?CMP=share_btn_tw

UK to loosen post-Brexit chemical regulations further

Experts warn UK’s regulations now lag behind those of the EU and that Britons will be exposed to more toxic chemicals as a result

Maybe our politicians should spend some more time thinking about domestic legislation instead of posturing about the Middle East.

Or maybe if all those hundreds of thousands on the marches were half as interested in health and safety as they are virtue signalling about Palestine then the politicians might talk about this sort of thing more.

Vox populi, vox dei. My God; how did we get into this mess?

Edited November 14, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie

[Well b back 3,311]

On 06/11/2023 at 23:19, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

So who do you trust for clear and unbiased analysis?

Not you !

[Herman 9,866]

Local election nerdery.

 

[horsefly 4,326]

Watch and weep 

 

[sonyc 5,541]

1 hour ago, horsefly said:

Watch and weep 

 

That was a difficult watch, especially the personal accounts. A 4 month campaign ("a blip in British political history") that has done such damage. As stated too, it was a clever campaign slogan that took in lots of people, many of whom had been struggling in the after effects of Cameron and Osborne's austerity programme (that led directly to 150 people losing their employment where I worked). Of course, it was even more complicated than that because people have felt a deep disconnect with Westminster and the political system for longer. We could all see in our own communities the increasing poverty levels, crime rising, a change in the amount and quality of our local services.

There was a degree of resignation but the campaign also tapped into an anger and was cruelly exploited by claims that could never work (our borders, the NHS....look at these 7 years post referendum and who can honestly say these are in any respect improved). The Tories didn't even have a credible plan for what they were going to do! They gave Rees Mogg a role to find positives! We saw Johnson talk about levelling up. And how has that gone? So much a joke if not so serious. Their post Brexit chaos even interrupted the preparation for a pandemic and subsequent handling of it in the disaster that was a Johnson government, a man so unfit for public office but one who used Brexit for his own personal ambitions, deciding late on what side of the fence to take. Pure opportunism. Opportunism on the back of the British people.

"Betrayed" is a good name for this piece. We were far more of a country being part of a greater union! We had a say in the world as a member of the EU. Now, we are seen as little somehow - certainly not 'great'. It is an enduring sadness but increasing alignment will happen in the years to come. When we will begin to wake up. Arguably the country is doing so.

Edited November 19, 2023 by sonyc

[Herman 9,866]

 

[sonyc 5,541]

On a similar food theme, you're okay in most supermarkets now but stay away from Iceland and be careful who you speak to at the checkouts in M&S.

 

[Herman 9,866]

I think a brexiter must have seen something foreign as our local Iceland was shut for unforseen circumstances at the weekend. 

[ricardo 7,447]

6 minutes ago, Herman said:

I think a brexiter must have seen something foreign as our local Iceland was shut for unforseen circumstances at the weekend. 

Probably the volcano.

[Herman 9,866]

Poor old Nigel.

I'm A Celebrity 2023: TV viewing figures fall by two million for opening show.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67449085

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

52 minutes ago, Herman said:

Poor old Nigel.

I'm A Celebrity 2023: TV viewing figures fall by two million for opening show.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67449085

As far as I am concerned, they are all immigrants and should be sent to Rwanda.

Who the hell thinks Cnut and Dcik are talented enough to be in work let alone work that earns you £60M?

And Farage needs to be eaten by a Salty. Mind, if would like force feeding.

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

Congratulations gorgeous and congratulations Holland:

 

Edited November 23, 2023 by Hook's-Walk-Canary

[Herman 9,866]

Hurrah for the blackshirts!!

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

The Netherlands will have a referendum on Nexit. Should be interesting 

[NFN FC 1,123]

1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

The Netherlands will have a referendum on Nexit. Should be interesting 

Maybe they will. First the PVV actually have to form a government.