SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 14, 2021 it will grow and grow ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,332 Posted June 14, 2021 On 12/06/2021 at 21:21, horsefly said: You really are as thick as two planks. What is it about the clause "for legal purposes" that you don't understand? FFS just read the links I posted ages ago, they are written at a level that even a total moron ought to understand. They point out the simple fact that when a party to a treaty takes a dispute over an alleged breach of treaty by another party to court, it is treated as the same as a breach of contract. This is precisely what the EU are threatening to do to the UK. It really isn't difficult to grasp. Just for once act like a grown up. This is getting pretty embarrassing for you now, you ought to stop digging that hole even deeper. A treaty is a treaty and a contract is a contract. I've already explained the differences at a level that even you can understand. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted June 15, 2021 Don’t be so pedantic. A treaty is a commercial or other agreement between two or more parties and its signature binds you to its terms or pay the consequences of breaking them. A contract is a commercial or other agreement between two or more parties and its signature binds you to its terms or pay the consequences of breaking them. De jure different, de facto absolutely the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,796 Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) A massive dead, brexitty, cat (cow) will be dumped on the table today to cover up the **** ups of the government's covid response.🤨 Edited June 15, 2021 by Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 15, 2021 Eu can no longer afford its interest repayment on money it borrowed. Remember the EU power house =best forget it= in the past now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,186 Posted June 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Eu can no longer afford its interest repayment on money it borrowed. Remember the EU power house =best forget it= in the past now. Where have you got this from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj11 377 Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Herman said: A massive dead, brexitty, cat (cow) will be dumped on the table today to cover up the **** ups of the government's covid response.🤨 And it’s a cow on steroids. BBC News: UK and Australia agree broad terms of trade deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,186 Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, dj11 said: And it’s a cow on steroids. BBC News: UK and Australia agree broad terms of trade deal "I say! Would you like a trade deal" "Yes mate, no worries" Both "Huzzah!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: Where have you got this from? google EU Finance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,186 Posted June 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: google EU Finance You don't understand how Google works do you? Post a link. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,988 Posted June 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Eu can no longer afford its interest repayment on money it borrowed. Remember the EU power house =best forget it= in the past now. 6 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: google EU Finance Must be special inside information because there is nothing, NOTHING, on the Web about this. Either that or @SwindonCanary just made it up. More likely he read nsomething he didn't understand, thought it said something else and misrepresented it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,796 Posted June 15, 2021 34 minutes ago, dj11 said: And it’s a cow on steroids. BBC News: UK and Australia agree broad terms of trade deal That's the one. All rather predictable. 😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted June 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Rock The Boat said: This is getting pretty embarrassing for you now, you ought to stop digging that hole even deeper. A treaty is a treaty and a contract is a contract. I've already explained the differences at a level that even you can understand. Make that 4 planks thicko! You don't have a clue about the law you dumb buffoon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, horsefly said: Make that 4 planks thicko! You don't have a clue about the law you dumb buffoon. can you not reply to a comment without calling names Billy boy ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Surfer said: Don’t be so pedantic. A treaty is a commercial or other agreement between two or more parties and its signature binds you to its terms or pay the consequences of breaking them. A contract is a commercial or other agreement between two or more parties and its signature binds you to its terms or pay the consequences of breaking them. De jure different, de facto absolutely the same. Nicely put Surfer. I tried explaining the point several times and included many links, none of which he is capable of understanding it seems. I don't know how many times I have stressed the point that "for legal purposes" a treaty is treated as a legally binding contract but it never manages to make it through into whatever matter is slopping around inside his skull. Somehow I think he will struggle to understand the distinction between de jure and de facto. Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: can you not reply to a comment without calling names Billy boy ? Only you would fail to see the irony and contradiction of what you just posted. But let's face it, you're honorary president of the thicko club on this site. Edited June 15, 2021 by horsefly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted June 15, 2021 47 minutes ago, BigFish said: Either that or @SwindonCanary just made it up. More likely he read nsomething he didn't understand, thought it said something else and misrepresented it. I think this is the default position we all take regarding anything he posts. Has anyone known him to be right about anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,238 Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: Eu can no longer afford its interest repayment on money it borrowed. Remember the EU power house =best forget it= in the past now. Had this been true markets all over the world would have crashed. You really should not make up such rubbish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, horsefly said: I think this is the default position we all take regarding anything he posts. Has anyone known him to be right about anything? I think you will find I was right on the Brexit vote 👍 Edited June 15, 2021 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,334 Posted June 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, Well b back said: Had this been true markets all over the world would have crashed. You really should not make up such rubbish. But if they didn't make up rubbish, what would they use to support their house of cards? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,238 Posted June 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: I think you will find I was right on the Brexit vote 👍 Pity you weren’t right about what Brexit would ‘ instantly bring ‘ from 1.1.2021 rather than as we are now told 1.1.2031. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted June 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: I think you will find I was right on the Brexit vote 👍 So that's just 12,143 posts of utter BS then. Not a ratio to be proud of methinks! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted June 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: But so important they got an invite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted June 15, 2021 Corrected your picture for you Swindle. No need to thank me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted June 15, 2021 13 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: it will grow and grow ! Yep! Just like Pinocchio's nose, the more lies they tell the more RWNJs like you will grow to like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barbe bleu 829 Posted June 15, 2021 Can I (or anyone/anything else for that matter) enforce an international treaty in a UK domestic court? Actually, I don't care so don't bother responding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted June 15, 2021 So what will the "fantastic" trade deal with Australia bring? well hard to tell since the government is strangely reticent to reveal most of the details for now. However, a couple of things have leaked out, so here's two of the predicted impacts of this "wonderous" deal: "The deal will be of limited importance to the UK economy – it is forecast to increase GDP by only 0.02% over 15 years" "No 10 said the reductions in tariffs would save UK households up to £34m a year, about £1.20 per household." https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-australia-trade-deal-to-include-15-year-cap-on-tariff-free-imports/ar-AAL3MMP?ocid=msedgntp I've already phoned my accountant and he suggests I invest my £1.20 in a couple of sherbet fountains (I've consequently placed an order with the local sweet shop so that I can celebrate each of the summer and winter solstices with a fizz). What a brave new post-brexit world we live in! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted June 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Barbe bleu said: Can I (or anyone/anything else for that matter) enforce an international treaty in a UK domestic court? Actually, I don't care so don't bother responding. Then don't bother posting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barbe bleu 829 Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, horsefly said: Then don't bother posting OK. Bye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites