mr footy 36 Posted August 12, 2018 It will take time to gel new players to the system we have here so mistakes will happen. But overall the performance yesterday was good.We are a mid table side squad that will take several seasons to build to challenge top six.So we need to be patient with the club as we improve on and off the field in the coming years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,272 Posted August 12, 2018 In the meantime losses/debt will pile up and crowds will dwindle.I never like that kind of talk and it is entirely reminiscent of the kind of stuff coming from those down the road on a consistent basis.Surely the majority of teams in this division are aspiring to a top six place this season and, without a sense of entitlement, I see absolutely no reason whatsoever why City should be excluded from such ambitions. You can after all throw a medium sized handkerchief over the lot of them and whereas one or two will become the cream and one or two will sink there are six whole places available and by just attaining one of these we can assume a successful season and look forward.This ''building for the future''stuff hardly ever works as there are so many obstacles lurking to prevent fruition, consistently losing the better players being the obvious one. Interest will wane. Leave this task to the Academy staff, Farke''s job is to create a force capable of a top six place and this is an immediate requirement.Whether this is realistic or not will be revealed as the weeks progress. If it becomes a no-no, then changes will need making in the coaching department. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,685 Posted August 12, 2018 Several seasons? Er no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FCC 78 Posted August 12, 2018 Rome would have been built in a day had Brian Clough been in charge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowbeagle 0 Posted August 12, 2018 I agree people need to be patient, i''m not so sure we''re building to anything though. You cant build anything if you are going to sell your best young players year on year and realistically despite what has been said by Farke and Webber about lowering the squads age how many of the first 11 yesterday are young developing players?I''m ok with it, it''s where we are and I think yesterday showed some promise. Maybe we are just going to tread water for a few years until the academy is up and running. However the club is still going to have to be more brave to put those young players into the first team and show faith in them. Look at Godfrey he has had a good season last year then decent preseason while Hanley/Klose have both looked indifferent and Tettey who was ill all preseason walks straight back in the team (I rate all three players by the way), yet they still wont let him have his shot at centre back or centre mid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted August 12, 2018 Has anyone checked what Huddersfield done in the first two games of their promotion season for comparison....?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,034 Posted August 12, 2018 [quote user="mr footy"]It will take time to gel new players to the system we have here so mistakes will happen. But overall the performance yesterday was good.We are a mid table side squad that will take several seasons to build to challenge top six.So we need to be patient with the club as we improve on and off the field in the coming years.[/quote]Several seasons ? You must be having a laugh as whatever state do you think the finances will be in unless success on the field returns sooner rather than later ? Take note also that the crowd was a tad over 25,100 yesterday which is around 1,500 down on what i would have expected for an opening home fixture against a team with reasonable away support so the slow decline in those who have not your patience is starting to show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,022 Posted August 12, 2018 The manager and coaching staff is currently the weakest aspect at this football club.....improve that and you can shave a good couple of days off however long it will take to build Rome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr footy 36 Posted August 12, 2018 The model we have adopted at norwich is to bring good players through the youth system,while finding affordable lower league players in Europe to fill the squad. With time it can be very successful. We have limited funds,so we have to cut our cloth accordingly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,034 Posted August 12, 2018 Yeah and season upon season we will have to cut our cloth due to dwindling income from all aspects involved with the club and during that time we will become less and less competitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,261 Posted August 12, 2018 You won''t get several seasons to build, you get a series of one year windows. If Hernandez keeps his form up he won''t be here next season so we''ll need to replace him for example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,449 Posted August 12, 2018 Attendance down by a good thousand for an opening home fixture . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 953 Posted August 12, 2018 New season, same post, same poster but to be fair you have got your well worn excuses in place after only 2 games this season which is 4 months earlier than last season.[quote user="mr footy"]Giving a manager time these days is rare.But we must get behind the manager as he has only been here for a short time.Yes the squad is not a top six squad but can keep us in this league with some additional players in Jan.it may take 2or 3 seasons to sort it out as the club has less revenue coming in.Rome took a long time to build,Norwich will too.[/quote]http://services.pinkun.com/forums/pinkun-forums/cs/forums/3581822/ShowPost.aspx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glory.win or die. 272 Posted August 12, 2018 Too early to make any rash judgementHuge positive is we look like scoring goals and 5 in 2 games is pretty good, we just need to find a balance to shore up the defence.If we persist with 2 very attacking full backs/wing backs I think we have to sacrifice pukki MacLean or leitner to fit in either a 3rd centre back or help for tettey.But early days still.Wondering if we need to play krul and rhodes v Stevenage to build confidence but then krul needs to kno hid place is up for grabs if he doesn''t perform.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted August 12, 2018 No team gets promoted averaging conceding 3 goals a game. When he tries to shore up the defence we become completely ineffective going forwards as we saw last season. When we attempt an open attack minded game we concede by the bucket load, as seen yesterday and last season. Unfortunately Farke seems incapable of finding the middle ground, which will leave us safe from a disaster but nowhere near the play offs again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,685 Posted August 12, 2018 Farke needs to find the right balance between solidity and scoring goals. At the moment it feels we have gone full circle and are back where we started i.e can''t defend.Injury to Lewis doesn''t help but the Hanley/Klose combo seems to have gone pear shaped too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 12, 2018 I was in Rome two years ago and it still didn''t look as if it was finished.I hope we can look forward to some faster progress on the playing front. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowbeagle 0 Posted August 12, 2018 [quote user="JF"]No team gets promoted averaging conceding 3 goals a game. When he tries to shore up the defence we become completely ineffective going forwards as we saw last season. When we attempt an open attack minded game we concede by the bucket load, as seen yesterday and last season. Unfortunately Farke seems incapable of finding the middle ground, which will leave us safe from a disaster but nowhere near the play offs again.[/quote]I don''t think we were that open yesterday that''s the frustrating thing, individual errors were the big issue. The system seemed ok (agree that''s not always been the case) however when you make the sort of individual defensive mistakes we did yesterday it gives you the impression the opposition didn''t have to work very hard to beat you, which they didn''t as we basically beat ourselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted August 12, 2018 king canary wrote the following post at 12/08/2018 11:19 AM: You won''t get several seasons to build, you get a series of one year windows. If Hernandez keeps his form up he won''t be here next season so we''ll need to replace him for example. 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted August 12, 2018 TIL 1010 wrote the following post at 12/08/2018 10:39 AM: mr footy wrote: It will take time to gel new players to the system we have here so mistakes will happen. But overall the performance yesterday was good.We are a mid table side squad that will take several seasons to build to challenge top six.So we need to be patient with the club as we improve on and off the field in the coming years. Several seasons ? You must be having a laugh as whatever state do you think the finances will be in unless success on the field returns sooner rather than later ? Take note also that the crowd was a tad over 25,100 yesterday which is around 1,500 down on what i would have expected for an opening home fixture against a team with reasonable away support so the slow decline in those who have not your patience is starting to show. Gate was lower than normal I suspect for an opening game, quite a few empties in the Community Stand. You do though always get a few empty season ticket seats this time of year with people being away, they are counted as being filled for gate purposes however, so I believe? Lots of empty away seats though, looked as if the Baggies may have taken their full allocation and not been able to sell them all? Not sure how that plays in to the gate figure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STFU 0 Posted August 12, 2018 According to a local paper''s report, WBA took 1100 yesterday-am I right in thinking that the away allocation is usually 2500, which means that attendance was 1400 below capacity due to their failure to sell their allocation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 106 Posted August 12, 2018 Should Norwich continue to achieve an average of 0.5 points per game and fail to beat Ipswich, I wouldn''t expect Daniel Farke to remain at the club... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted August 12, 2018 STFU wrote the following post at 12/08/2018 3:47 PM: According to a local paper''s report, WBA took 1100 yesterday-am I right in thinking that the away allocation is usually 2500, which means that attendance was 1400 below capacity due to their failure to sell their allocation? Yes around 2500,10% of capacity, goes up to 15% for an FA Cup game I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted August 12, 2018 You can build a lot in a day if you’ve enough money to get the right skilled labour in... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iron_stan 0 Posted August 12, 2018 rome was not built in a daybut they had a bigger budget than the idealistic but broke suffolk witch currently in chargedelia out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,253 Posted August 12, 2018 Well done Mr Footy, you''ve managed to collaborate these lot into one thread. Enjoy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,034 Posted August 12, 2018 Good to see the official fan moderator is busy today. [;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,253 Posted August 12, 2018 Coming from the poster that follows City 1st around like a lost puppy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpy 136 Posted August 12, 2018 [quote user="STFU"]According to a local paper''s report, WBA took 1100 yesterday-am I right in thinking that the away allocation is usually 2500, which means that attendance was 1400 below capacity due to their failure to sell their allocation?[/quote]Unless this is meant as a joke I am assuming you didn''t attend the match because if you had you might have noticed that there were swathes of empty seats in the river end Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,034 Posted August 12, 2018 [quote user="hogesar"]Coming from the poster that follows City 1st around like a lost puppy.[/quote]As opposed to you following any poster around who does not subscribe to your view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites