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Delia - riding off into the sunset after selling up Dean - sacked by the new board If only...

Proud that you didn't resort to abuse there. You must have calmed down since yesterday. Happy clap on my brother 🤣

Self funding doesn't work and we're going backwards under this model? Delia Smith has no place being near a football club? The debacles of last season being forgiven as "we'll just go straight back up" isn't looking like it's such a given this year? All these becoming more obvious but the forums biggest happy clapper can't be seen to deviate from the pro club/Delia party line so takes out frustration on posters. Perhaps?

Key difference of course is this is in addition to keeping their best player from last season, not selling him and poorly spending the proceeds. But we'll gloss over that again.

Even on a post thats majority positive against the club, he still finds a way of having a pop at fellow supporters.

One of two things is likely to happen here... The absolute A1 outcome is that they buy Delia out in which case the ultimate dream of many of our fans is realised and we're happy for you to tag away as much as you want. Alternative is that nothing of note really happens, this guy doesn't meet whatever "criteria" she's set up and it just reinforces beliefs that she doesn't want to give up her plaything. Feels a bit odd though... there's been a lot of complaints about not hearing from the hierarchy and that Delia's not even listening to offers for the club. Then within a few days we get a heavily managed interview with Webber and now we're "linked" to a rich American. Perhaps I'm getting more suspicious in my advanced age but I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if this ends up being anything more than a show to appease fans.

Surprised it took you all of 5 hours to post this... I was expecting no more than 2.

Not really sure why... there's a plethora of other perfectly good reasons.

It's not a fact... its a fact that we haven't been told of any potential investors. Its a fact that our current owners made comments about not wanting camels walking up CR. It's also a fact that many many other clubs of all sizes and geography have been able to find investment since 2008. I'd say it's actually very far from a fact that there have been no approaches since 2008

Exactly this Since Delia bought out GW, we spent maybe 15 years under her ownership trying to keep our heads just above water and ultimately relegated to our worst league position for nearly 60 years. Even since then we've been one James Maddison away from being screwed. A couple of years of no parachute payments will really show up the limitations of having someone like her at the helm. She's not this wonderful being that a declining number of people would have you believe.

You know there's no genuine argument left when this is the first thing they come up with. Hoggy and others have nothing left to defend her with apart from that.

Just watching the highlights on MOTD - havent seen that many empty seats at Carrow Road for a league game in years. Surely a message to Delia?

200 seemed about right which at 0.5% of the attending crowd implies we have a capacity crowd of 40,000 today. Perhaps we dont need the new ground at the UEA 🤣 Would be interested to know what % that 200 would be of the fans that were still in the ground at 80 mins though, I got to the ground for the protest at about that time and I thought the game was already over by the amount of people outside the ground and making their way towards Bracondale. On top of the 200, the number of people joining in on the way out of the ground but didnt stay would have vastly inflated that 200. Unfortunately, the general mood around the place seemed to be apathy. Which in itself is a sad indictment of where we are as a club. Those still bizzarely clinging to the notion that Delia is our saviour and not to be questioned are thankfully fewer than they used to be. Even Nutty's posts that seemed to be banal but had an undertone of disdain for anything anti-Delia are just banal now. Hoggy is still admirably clinging to the sinking ship, trying his hardest to discredit those that do shout out. As difficult a position that is to defend at the moment, my suspicion is that he's actually an Ipswich fan and he goes back to Ipswich message boards talking about Agent Delia. Honestly, witht he general mood around the message board and elsewhere, I thought there'd be more protesting. Perhaps the vast number that left early didnt want to hang around or its just apathy which will eventually bear out with season tickets not getting renewed. Either way, all is not good and root and branch change is needed. I suspect that won't happen until a prolonged stay in the Championship.

Incorrect again. Most successful run in modern times was under Chase. For a long time under Delia we were barely keeping our heads above water financially being twice close to administration, most recently relying on the sale of James Maddison to keep us going. This is what we've got to look forward to once the yo-yo stops returning to the PL and the parachute payments end.

This is the laziest f*cking argument that I'm sick of replying to. Get rid of Delia/Hughton/Adams/Worthington/Farke etc and replace them with who. It's the go to argument of the lazy blinkered supporters of the status quo. Of course the people on the pinkun message board aren't going to have answers for this. But there's potential owners out there as evidenced by every other freaking club that's managed to get new owners. My only requirements are that it's not a leveraged buy out and preferably a reasonable human rights record!

Because the only other option is Russian/Saudi billionaires...... 😴😴😴

Looks like you weren't the only one, 20 mins before the end of the game people were back in their cars in Trowse. 10 mins before the end of the game the roads around the ground were rammed with people. Apathy reigns.

One of the things I absolutely love about Norwich fans is their ability to slag off pundits who make completely accurate comments about the club. Lawrenson predicts we get beaten, people get all uppity about it, but more often than not, he's right. Danny Murphy makes a perfectly valid comment - bury your head in the sand all you want but he's right.

My issue is that the club has been unable to spot opportunities in the past where a bit of extra investment could have made a huge difference. Last time we went up I looked at our squad and thought if we can spend 40m sensibly to complement the excellent young players we have, we've got a real chance. Instead we loan Amadou and spend 750k on Byram, the inevitable happens and we ultimately lose a good chunk of that team. IMO that was our best opportunity to progress as a team and success in the PL that season would have meant more PL money and increased the value of the players in the side. That we were hamstrung by the owners capability to invest was really the point where I realised they were a detriment to the club.

Didn't realise we had Alan Partridge as a sporting director

We relied on the money from the Buendia sale to make the signings we did. To do otherwise would require Delia to spend c.40m of her own money..... In other news, pigs have developed the ability to fly.

The US sports model (not just NFL but basketball, ice hockey and baseball as well) is completely different to how football works. There's a huge amount of TV money going into the main US sports however there is a harshly enforced salary cap across the league which is the same for all teams so theres no disparity across the teams. Players contracts are often short and they do not move for transfer fees rather often as swaps for other players or draft picks. Speaking of draft picks, no teams have youth setups, instead US college sport is a huge thing and the worse teams in the league have first choice of the players coming through college. Sounds mental but as someone who has gotten into US sport in the last 5 years or so, its so much better for competitiveness than the reasons given before. Interestingly though, some US teams are owned by the same people who own PL teams, relevant example being Stan Kroenke (Arsenal owner) having recently won the Superbowl with the LA Rams. Liverpool's owners also own a baseball team.

I think those creaming themselves saying we've spent £65m are the ones getting confused. That is the gross spend and there's a lot of creativity as to how that figure is arrived at. Using that number as a measure of ambition is then flawed because: a) Approx £15m of that was essentially spent last season on Gibson and Gianoullis (from the £40m generated from the sale of the players they replaced). b) Approx £20m of that may not even be spent if we don't convert Kabak and Normann to permanent. I'd also suggest the reason they were signed on a loan with option to buy is because the Buendia money had then been spent and that the fee for these 2 would then come from the 2022-23 budget. So a bit disingenuous to bundle that in with this seasons spend. c) if you're talking ambition you surely need to be looking at net spend and in context with previous seasons. We've lost 3 players for a combined sum of approx £75m over the last 2 off seasons. We haven't permanently replaced any of them adequately imo (and spent poorly elsewhere as well but thats another matter) and ambition would imply doing something above and beyond. In a time where we've earned £¼B in TV money, just spending what you generate in player sales is not ambition.

Can we please get past this... we might have spent £65m but rather conveniently this ignores that about £15m of that sum was spent as direct replacements for players sold for £40m last season, approx £20m of that sum is contingent on us being in the PL next season (and likely then from next year's PL money) and the remainder is suspiciously close to what we sold Buendia for. Our net spend over the last 3 seasons, despite pulling in £¼ billion in TV money is slightly above zero. In our last PL season, we spent next to nothing. We are rightly ridiculed for the approach we take to the PL. No creative accounting can hide that.

The 2019-20 injury crisis and the need to play midfielders in defence might have been mitigated had we addressed the obvious need for cover in that area. Instead our choices were inexperienced, injury prone or just not good enough. Interestingly I think it during the Brentford game that Sutton was on the BT Sports version of Soccer Saturday and he was halfway through a conversation about Delias finances holding the club back. Then Newcastle scored and nothing more was said.