Cantiaci Canary

Lots of good sense here ... I just worry about how open and leaky Swansea are. We've been there many times before - easy on the eye offensively but give away too many soft chances

This is the crux of it all ... the Webberlution is a radical ideology. Since its launch I've been fascinated to see whether it is a genius masterplan or an unrealistic pipedream. His whole plan rests on steadily raising the collective quality of the squad, by selling off talented individuals when attractive bids are registered, and spreading those profits across the roster - accepting relegations, bruising defeats and sales of fans' favourites as par for the long course. In time we were meant to become good enough (and experienced enough) to stay up in the big league without needing a multi billionaire to fuel it. Tragically, despite two promotions and the sales of the likes of Maddison, Murphy, Godrey and Buendia along the way we look a long way short of where we were at our peak (the 2nd promotion). I don't think that was part of the plan! Whether Webber just struck lucky early doors with Farke & Emi/Pukki, whether he messed up the last Prem campaign's transfer strategy, whether replacing Farke with Smith was a pragmatic but foolhardy action perhaps those 'little' details don't actually matter ... the real question is - does where we are now prove that the ideology underpinning the Webberlution is ultimately flawed and incompatible to 21st century English football OR are we just feeling the inevitable burn of the painful mid-point of The Project and the best is yet to come???

It's heart-breaking to think that Emi Buendia once sat in this team!

Away crowd is turning

It is so obvious that this squad needs a reset. A fresh voice with fresh training methods and tactics could well be all it needs to spark some life into this carcass.

Dream on!

Smith is a dead man walking from this point now. Not seen a boss turn the rudder once it gets to this stage with the home support. Dull to watch, not winning enough games and all with a squad that is supposed to be the evolution of one that won two titles and sold a midfielder for £30M+. The Farke magic dust has been well and truly shaken off. We need a fresh face and ideas to kickstart us - as Neil did after it went south under Adams. But, will we have to wait an age like usual for the inevitable sacking?

Yep ... you've saved me the job of typing this. The starkest missed opportunity in recent times.

Too big for us now ... and maybe always was.

Pretty sure it would be Robins ...

Zero ins and JH to Cardiff on loan is what I'm expecting to see ... sadly.

Confidence breeds confidence.

If we don't go up we'll deteriorate into a lower mid second tier club ... the Championship is only fun when we're too good for it.

They've started well before ....

If we finish above Watford we'll be promoted.

Am I right in thinking that none of these players could be signed / get loaned any time soon - nowhere near the immigration points needed???

Ready to watch Huddersfield put eleven men behind the ball and cling on for dear life until we chuck it in our own net for them again. 😀

I wouldn't be surprised to see Mark Robins appointed ... if not then a foreign boss few of us have ever heard of. In all honesty though I don't see Webber even contemplating giving Smith the push before January.

They were lucky in the sense that we didn't convert our many chances ... when we're up to full speed we'll win games like this.

I recall a similar situation previously with Farke. Webber didn't panic because the performance / stats were good ... it was just a matter of time then and I expect that to be true this time. A win will do us the world of good and I think we'll be buzzing along very nicely soon (fingers crossed!).

Strange how fans of Walsall, Brentford and Villa think he's an excellent manager 🤔

That is a relief to hear - phew 👍

I'll have to agree to disagree ... with the injuries we suffered and players we recruited (and didn't!) in the windows it would've been a miracle to have survived last season. I think lambasting Smith for his tenure across both seasons is nuts to be honest. He's gone from inheriting a poisoned chalice in the Prem (where he needed to make us harder to humiliate) to bedding in some new vital players (in a division where virtually all opponents will put up a stubborn low block and defend for their lives). It's too easy to think that smacking the reset button will cure all evils. You have to give Dean time to mould and evolve THIS squad for THIS campaign.

They would've been delighted with a draw - hence the way they set up and approached the game. Both were lucky to come away with three points! Additionally - I don't think any manager on earth could've got more out of the players we had than Smith did last season ... we were easy prey regardless of who sat in the dug out.

There is no elite in the Championship. It's a physical and relentless scrap with ZERO respect for price tags and past glories. The number of times I've seen so called elite squads humbled in this division over the years is high and there's a reason for that. This is not a computer game. This is a battle, a slog a scrap - and we'll be fine once we get a little luck and things start clicking. We very very easily could be sitting on nine points right now but the cookie didn't crumble that way.