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I think they are going to block QPR''s promotion and only 2 teams will be relegated from the prem

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[quote user="Paul"]I think they are going to block QPR''s promotion and only 2 teams will be relegated from the prem[/quote]

LOL... exactly what I said on an earlier thread

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QPR mate at work thinks it''s bad news and they don''t want to announce it prior to their final match due to potential trouble etc.

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Just announced that the decision will be announced as soon as possible after 4pm on Saturday. It seems to me that the verdict is already known.

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[quote user="Matt Juler"]QPR mate at work thinks it''s bad news and they don''t want to announce it prior to their final match due to potential trouble etc.
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only problem is, why then let them parade the trophy around? What a mess!

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This is clearly bad news for QPR. If it were just a matter of a fine or a not guilty verdict there would be no problem announcing a verdict before Saturday. A guilty verdict and a possible points deduction or relegation would have serious implications for a number of teams in the playoff places.I  have always thought a verdict before Saturdays games could put the integrity of the QPR V Leeds game in danger. The FA obviously want to protect the integrity of that game as it could have a bearing on the playoffs.On the QPR board they seem to think this is good news as they think the final places are set in stone when the final whistle blows Saturday.They may very well be allowed to keep their first place but still be denied promotion to the PremiershipI still believe that what we are talking about here is either a fine or a relegation with the latter being the most likely.

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[quote user="alysha"]

[quote user="Matt Juler"]QPR mate at work thinks it''s bad news and they don''t want to announce it prior to their final match due to potential trouble etc.[/quote]

only problem is, why then let them parade the trophy around? What a mess!

[/quote]They let Swidon celebrate a playoff victory and an open top bus ride and still relegated them 10 days later so thats nothing to go by.

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SSN are reporting that the FL have told involved clubs that the play-offs are to be played as originally planned.

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[quote user="ricardo"][quote user="alysha"]

[quote user="Matt Juler"]QPR mate at work thinks it''s bad news and they don''t want to announce it prior to their final match due to potential trouble etc.
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only problem is, why then let them parade the trophy around? What a mess!

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They let Swidon celebrate a playoff victory and an open top bus ride and still relegated them 10 days later so thats nothing to go by.
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Will the bookies go by the league table after all the games have finished, or wait untill the verdict is announced to pay out?

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[quote user="Matt Juler"]QPR mate at work thinks it''s bad news and they don''t want to announce it prior to their final match due to potential trouble etc.[/quote]I maybe reading too much into this, but it is significant that it is Leeds (currently 7th) at QPR Saturday. Say the decision is QPR are docked 18 points, suddenly that game becomes huge. And a stadium full of subsequently ''hacked off'' Rangers fans and a couple of thousand jubilant (reprieved) Leeds fans would be a potent mix (........ all Police leave in West London cancelled I reckon).The decision postponement is significant though- if there was nothing being affected by the decision (e.g. a fine, transfer embargo or points deduction next season) surely it the verdict would be announced before Saturday? This would be the worrying aspect were I a QPR fan.On the ''this season / next season'' issue with the punishment, could it not be argued that the descsion has already been made, albeit not announced? As mentioned by others in the other thead, I think there is a real possiblility of the solution being letting QPR play their last game, get presented with the trophy and having their ''moment in the sun''. And then relegate them back to the Championship, with only two clubs promoted into the PL, us and the PO winner.  But who cares, it''s not our worry- let''s enjoy Saturday[:D] [:D] [:D]       

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[quote user="Dereham Tifoso"][quote user="Matt Juler"]QPR mate at work thinks it''s bad news and they don''t want to announce it prior to their final match due to potential trouble etc.[/quote]I maybe reading too much into this, but it is significant that it is Leeds (currently 7th) at QPR Saturday. Say the decision is QPR are docked 18 points, suddenly that game becomes huge. And a stadium full of subsequently ''hacked off'' Rangers fans and a couple of thousand jubilant (reprieved) Leeds fans would be a potent mix (........ all Police leave in West London cancelled I reckon).The decision postponement is significant though- if there was nothing being affected by the decision (e.g. a fine, transfer embargo or points deduction next season) surely it the verdict would be announced before Saturday? This would be the worrying aspect were I a QPR fan.On the ''this season / next season'' issue with the punishment, could it not be argued that the descsion has already been made, albeit not announced? As mentioned by others in the other thead, I think there is a real possiblility of the solution being letting QPR play their last game, get presented with the trophy and having their ''moment in the sun''. And then relegate them back to the Championship, with only two clubs promoted into the PL, us and the PO winner.  But who cares, it''s not our worry- let''s enjoy Saturday[:D] [:D] [:D]       [/quote]Spot on DF, thats how I see it.

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All this speculation does make one bold assumption which may be challenged by future events....

The FA/FL know what they are doing.

The FA and the FL have a history of proving otherwise. The English footballing authorities showed their incompetence time and again.

Don''t make any assumptions on what has/has not been decided and the timing/size of any punishment (if QPR are found guilty)

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My thoughts on this, for what it is worth, is that QPR are going to get a big points deduction. The delay is to allow the lawyers to examine the ruling with a fine tooth comb to prevent any chance of a succesful appeal. If they were going to be found not guilty or just hit with a fine then the decision could be announced as scheduled.

The fact that the potential play off sides already go down to 7th means that Leeds would have been advised that the play offs would be going ahead as planned; so the two are not mutually exclusive.

Of course I could be way off track but I would be very concerned if I were a QPR fan.

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[quote user="itstheruddyfuture"]Never been surer than now that we will be crowned Champions shortly after 4 pm on Saturday.[/quote]

 

Wish I was that confident lol

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[quote user="itstheruddyfuture"]Never been surer than now that we will be crowned Champions shortly after 4 pm on Saturday.[/quote]We wont be crowned Champions on Saturday if they are presenting the trophy to QPR .

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"alysha" : only problem is, why then let them parade the trophy around? What a mess!I think it''s hilarious! They be dancing on Saturday and burning down their stadium on Monday!!

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On the face of it relegation is on the cards. Just dont understand why the trophy is being presented Saturday to QPR. Has anyone actually seen the FL saying this or is it just QPR ?

Of course there is one other simple explanation that new evidence has come to light that the panel must investigate but why not say ?

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If I was a QPR player, I personally wouldn''t want to be presented with the trophy until the final decision had been made. If they celebrate the title and then are docked points a few days later, they will have every opposing fan laughing at them.

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the way i see it, is that they are waiting for the final league table, so they can deduct only enough points for QPR to remain in second, thereby punishing them, but giving them enough to get away with.. i.e promotion, so they dont appeal

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