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No, I haven''t flipped, because as I feared, Gunny might just apply for the managers job:

http://www.pinkun.com/content/ncfc/story.aspx?brand=PINKUNOnline&category=Norwich&tBrand=PinkUnOnline&tCategory=Norwich&itemid=NOED19%20Jan%202009%2009%3A54%3A52%3A367

Go to the bottom of the page, nowhere does Gunn rule himself out, and thats bloody scary.

We need an experienced hand on the tiller, not another Grantesq, emotionaly driven appointment, based on cheapness.

Gunn as manager full time would be a disaster, and how do you remove a legend when it all goes tits up?

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now wiz you know they''ll take the cheap option, I just hope its not gunny. I love the bloke, but we need someone who knows how to manage, and alas gunny has no experience yet.but with munby saying they want someone who has connections to city, it sounds like unless they''re thinking Robins, gunny could be in with a shout

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[quote user="National express super guard "]now wiz you know they''ll take the cheap option, I just hope its not gunny. I love the bloke, but we need someone who knows how to manage, and alas gunny has no experience yet.
but with munby saying they want someone who has connections to city, it sounds like unless they''re thinking Robins, gunny could be in with a shout
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Then we are ******![:''(]

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[quote user="IncH_HigH"]Why keep posting new threads on the same subject?[/quote]

Because its vital we keep this to the fore...........Gunny would relegate us!

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[quote user="1st Wizard"]

No, I haven''t flipped, because as I feared, Gunny might just apply for the managers job:

http://www.pinkun.com/content/ncfc/story.aspx?brand=PINKUNOnline&category=Norwich&tBrand=PinkUnOnline&tCategory=Norwich&itemid=NOED19%20Jan%202009%2009%3A54%3A52%3A367

Go to the bottom of the page, nowhere does Gunn rule himself out, and thats bloody scary.

We need an experienced hand on the tiller, not another Grantesq, emotionaly driven appointment, based on cheapness.

Gunn as manager full time would be a disaster, and how do you remove a legend when it all goes tits up?

[/quote]

I do agree with you on Gunn in principle although who knows, any appointment can only be judged someway down the line and with the benefit of hindsight.

Why do we need this mystical attribute of ''experience''?? You can have many years ''experience'' in the game but be poor at the job after all. Did''nt GR tick the ''experience'' box? As I said when PG resigned, we can''t simply dismiss young, unproved talent just because it didn''t work with Grant. I don''t care whether the new guy is 35 or 65 as long as he''s got the right qualities.

What ''experience'' of management did  Ferguson have when he walked into the Aberdeen job? Rest is history as they say.

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[quote user="Yellow Rider"]

What ''experience'' of management did  Ferguson have when he walked into the Aberdeen job? Rest is history as they say.

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4 years at St Mirren where he won a promotion[;)]

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[quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="IncH_HigH"]Why keep posting new threads on the same subject?[/quote]

Because its vital we keep this to the fore...........Gunny would relegate us!

[/quote]

 

I don''t disagree Wiz but trying to keep track is a nightmare when you have started 3 threads on the same subject.  My little brain can''t cope.

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[quote user="Yellow Rider"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

No, I haven''t flipped, because as I feared, Gunny might just apply for the managers job:

http://www.pinkun.com/content/ncfc/story.aspx?brand=PINKUNOnline&category=Norwich&tBrand=PinkUnOnline&tCategory=Norwich&itemid=NOED19%20Jan%202009%2009%3A54%3A52%3A367

Go to the bottom of the page, nowhere does Gunn rule himself out, and thats bloody scary.

We need an experienced hand on the tiller, not another Grantesq, emotionaly driven appointment, based on cheapness.

Gunn as manager full time would be a disaster, and how do you remove a legend when it all goes tits up?

[/quote]

I do agree with you on Gunn in principle although who knows, any appointment can only be judged someway down the line and with the benefit of hindsight.

Why do we need this mystical attribute of ''experience''?? You can have many years ''experience'' in the game but be poor at the job after all. Did''nt GR tick the ''experience'' box? As I said when PG resigned, we can''t simply dismiss young, unproved talent just because it didn''t work with Grant. I don''t care whether the new guy is 35 or 65 as long as he''s got the right qualities.

What ''experience'' of management did  Ferguson have when he walked into the Aberdeen job? Rest is history as they say.

[/quote]

I knew on Saturday that this would be the knee jerk reaction from City fans. We could be relegated to the Blue Square league and you still wouldn''t hear Gunn Out...... thats the danger!

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absolute cobblers wizard..i would say the fact that we`re most likely  to go with what we`ve got with regards to players  barring a couple of additions if we are lucky, then gunny could be the ideal candidate for the rest of the season anyway..  its the next 18 games that are important and  we`re much more likely to grind out the 7 or so wins we need  with gunny than some new bloke settling in and assessing the players bringing in his backroom staff ect ect.. you don`t need to be a tactical genius do you? 4-4-2 and square pegs in square holes  and get the players beleiving in themselves.. we as fans have the most important role in that as long as the players are giving it everything  we stay behind them whatever.. you  wizard have an important part to play..stop posting negative drivel  and  do your duty as a city fan  and get behind the team for the rest of the season.. the sinister one is gone  time to pull together [:D]

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I did cringe at all the calls and texts after the game calling for Gunny to get the job F/T.Lets be honest.......At H/T you wouldn''t have known that GR had been sacked
  • Russell up front and Lupoli on the bench
  • No ideas going forward
  • Passing was awful
  • Confidence was low
We could and should have been 1 or 2 nil down at H/T.    Barnsley gifted us the 2nd goal, the 3rd was a soft penalty and the 4th was just rubbing it in.If we were playing a better team we could have lost that game on saturday.  If people want Bryan Gunn as our manager on the basis of what happened Saturday then some people need their heads tested.That goes for the board too, if they consider Gunn as a real possibility.

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[quote user="pennywise "]absolute cobblers wizard..i would say the fact that we`re most likely  to go with what we`ve got with regards to players  barring a couple of additions if we are lucky, then gunny could be the ideal candidate for the rest of the season anyway..  its the next 18 games that are important and  we`re much more likely to grind out the 7 or so wins we need  with gunny than some new bloke settling in and assessing the players bringing in his backroom staff ect ect.. you don`t need to be a tactical genius do you? 4-4-2 and square pegs in square holes  and get the players beleiving in themselves.. we as fans have the most important role in that as long as the players are giving it everything  we stay behind them whatever.. you  wizard have an important part to play..stop posting negative drivel  and  do your duty as a city fan  and get behind the team for the rest of the season.. the sinister one is gone  time to pull together [:D][/quote]

As a City fan, I am doing my duty Pennywise.

Gunn must not become the next City manager!

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You say you''re a City fan Wiz, and some of your criticisms I think are valid, but I don''t think I have ever heard you say anything positive about the club!!

I guess some people are just never happy...

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I agree with your opinions on Gunn and that he must not become the next city manager.

a) imagine how terrible everyone would feel shouting ''gunn out'' 10/12 months down the line

b) it is my opinion that saturday was a one off match- everything seemed to go our way and as a result of that we thrashed Barnsley 4-0.

Enjoy the win on saturday (if you dont celebrate wins then what is that point?) but Gunn as manager? You''ve gone mental then imo!

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[quote user="We Want Lappin Back"]You say you''re a City fan Wiz, and some of your criticisms I think are valid, but I don''t think I have ever heard you say anything positive about the club!! I guess some people are just never happy...[/quote]

I have often praised players and team alike, but because you subscribe to the wizard myth on here, you''ve been blind to it.[:|]

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[quote user="CT "]

I agree with your opinions on Gunn and that he must not become the next city manager.

a) imagine how terrible everyone would feel shouting ''gunn out'' 10/12 months down the line

b) it is my opinion that saturday was a one off match- everything seemed to go our way and as a result of that we thrashed Barnsley 4-0.

Enjoy the win on saturday (if you dont celebrate wins then what is that point?) but Gunn as manager? You''ve gone mental then imo!

[/quote]

About time you changed you name to "1st Wizard +1".

 

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Here''s a fine pickle for you Wiz;

"We weren''t allowed to play with freedom but under caretaker manager Bryan Gunn I felt wanted again."  - Jamie Cureton.

 

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[quote user="IncH_HigH"]

I don''t disagree Wiz but trying to keep track is a nightmare when you have started 3 threads on the same subject.  My little brain can''t cope.

[/quote]

 

Maybe we should have had a Managers rumours thread and a Bryan Gunn thread [:)]

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[quote user="Delia S. Tickers"]

Here''s a fine pickle for you Wiz;

"We weren''t allowed to play with freedom but under caretaker manager Bryan Gunn I felt wanted again."  - Jamie Cureton.

 

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No pickle at all DST, it just confirms what we thought regarding Ratty.

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I agree with you Wiz. But stop making so many threads on the same bloody matter. It''s irritating.

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[quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="Yellow Rider"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

No, I haven''t flipped, because as I feared, Gunny might just apply for the managers job:

http://www.pinkun.com/content/ncfc/story.aspx?brand=PINKUNOnline&category=Norwich&tBrand=PinkUnOnline&tCategory=Norwich&itemid=NOED19%20Jan%202009%2009%3A54%3A52%3A367

Go to the bottom of the page, nowhere does Gunn rule himself out, and thats bloody scary.

We need an experienced hand on the tiller, not another Grantesq, emotionaly driven appointment, based on cheapness.

Gunn as manager full time would be a disaster, and how do you remove a legend when it all goes tits up?

[/quote]

I do agree with you on Gunn in principle although who knows, any appointment can only be judged someway down the line and with the benefit of hindsight.

Why do we need this mystical attribute of ''experience''?? You can have many years ''experience'' in the game but be poor at the job after all. Did''nt GR tick the ''experience'' box? As I said when PG resigned, we can''t simply dismiss young, unproved talent just because it didn''t work with Grant. I don''t care whether the new guy is 35 or 65 as long as he''s got the right qualities.

What ''experience'' of management did  Ferguson have when he walked into the Aberdeen job? Rest is history as they say.

[/quote]

I knew on Saturday that this would be the knee jerk reaction from City fans. We could be relegated to the Blue Square league and you still wouldn''t hear Gunn Out...... thats the danger!

[/quote]

Sorry Wiz, we''re at cross purposes. I certainly don''t want Gunny to get the job at all. I was just picking you up on the ''must have experience'' criteria and linking that back to the appointment of GR who clearly had bags of that particular attribute! For what it''s worth I want the boy Malky involved if at all possible in the new management set up. he has little experience of management so far but so what. The guy has leadership and inspirational qualities in abundance and boy does our club need that right now!  

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[quote user="ncfc_chris"][quote user="Yellow Rider"]

What ''experience'' of management did  Ferguson have when he walked into the Aberdeen job? Rest is history as they say.

[/quote]

4 years at St Mirren where he won a promotion[;)]

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Good point - I stand corrected! OK St. Mirren gave him first real break (or he may have had a club befre that?) but you take the point I''m trying to make. Everyone has to start somewhere and I would have no problems with our new man starting here provided I thought he had the right qualities and was backed up by the right support staff. Take Malky - I would give him the job IF we could get a damn good geezer in to be his No. 2 (Bruce Rioch would be my choice in that scenario) who would provide the guidance and alternative view that is often needed.

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[quote user="CT "]

a) imagine how terrible everyone would feel shouting ''gunn out'' 10/12 months down the line

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If it ever came to that and fans were shouting "Gunn Out" instead of "Board Out" I would walk away from this club for ever.

 

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[quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="IncH_HigH"]Why keep posting new threads on the same subject?[/quote]

Because its vital we keep this to the fore...........Gunny would relegate us!

[/quote]

I thought you''d be happy to see us relegated as we''d possibly go into administration and pressure would increase on the board?

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Wiz,

Just wait and see what happens and stop having a mini heart attack every two minutes about the possibility of Gunn as manager.

Do you honestly think the board are stupid enough to think one good result makes a good manager? I don''t.

Gunn won''t get the job dont''t worry!

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[quote user="Jim Kent"]Wiz,

Just wait and see what happens and stop having a mini heart attack every two minutes about the possibility of Gunn as manager.

Do you honestly think the board are stupid enough to think one good result makes a good manager? I don''t.

Gunn won''t get the job dont''t worry![/quote] That is the problem YES i do think they are stupid enough.

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I''ve just been invited to a Facebook group set up by Gunny''s own daughter saying "Bryan Gunn for manager".  It might be a teenage fun page from her point of view, but unforutnately I can see it balloning out of control.  I asked a straight question of her as to whether her dad actually wanted the job and said that for her old man''s and his families sake they should seriously consider the cost to them of him taking up the role. 

The worrying thing is it has nearly 700 members already and if it continues to pick that number it will have all the population of Norfolk supporitng it by the end of the week.  Hope Munby is not a Facebook page freak!

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[quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="We Want Lappin Back"]You say you''re a City fan Wiz, and some of your criticisms I think are valid, but I don''t think I have ever heard you say anything positive about the club!! I guess some people are just never happy...[/quote]

I have often praised players and team alike, but because you subscribe to the wizard myth on here, you''ve been blind to it.[:|]

[/quote]

Wizard myth??????????

 

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