Can't believe people think everything is still going to be OK!!!!

[Spartan 0]

At the Barnsley game we need to leave the arrogant Roeder and incompetent board in no doubt as to our disgust with the plight that THEY have created for our club. Wake up and smell the coffee; we are in freefall towards Division 3 and obscure mediocrity. Lack of action by fans will only hasten the process, and confirm to the board that the majority are now resigned to what they consider to be the inevitable. Our beloved club is rudderless with a manager and board totally bereft of ideas on how to move forward. How about this for a suggestion? Whatever it takes get Roeder out of the Carrow Road exit asap, get a manager with ambition, man management skills and charisma in before the next league game, and then we might JUST stand a chance of survival. Taking no action at all, and tolerating the current situation, means YOU are no better than Roeder or the board.

[Inch High aka Inchy.. 417]

So what do you suggest then? You lead we''ll follow.

[Barclay_Boy 0]

[quote user="IncH_HigH"]So what do you suggest then? You lead we''ll follow.[/quote]

and there it is in a nutshell for you Spartan. Not enough people are angry enough yet, and almost certainly won''t be until it''s too late and we''re down. We''re too nice to shout in enough numbers for Delia to go. Too many fans are grateful for the half mill or so that makes up our transfer kitty most seasons.

But, once we''re down and it''s too late, rest assured there will be loads of people demonstrating for the Board to clear off. Unfortunately it will be too late by then.

 

[Inch High aka Inchy.. 417]

[quote user="Barclay_Boy"]

[quote user="IncH_HigH"]So what do you suggest then? You lead we''ll follow.[/quote]

and there it is in a nutshell for you Spartan. Not enough people are angry enough yet, and almost certainly won''t be until it''s too late and we''re down. We''re too nice to shout in enough numbers for Delia to go. Too many fans are grateful for the half mill or so that makes up our transfer kitty most seasons.

But, once we''re down and it''s too late, rest assured there will be loads of people demonstrating for the Board to clear off. Unfortunately it will be too late by then.

 

[/quote]

I meant it.  Problem is knowbody(myself included)wants to lead the revolution.

[Stevie Wonder 0]

[quote user="Barclay_Boy"]

[quote user="IncH_HigH"]So what do you suggest then? You lead we''ll follow.[/quote]

and there it is in a nutshell for you Spartan. Not enough people are angry enough yet, and almost certainly won''t be until it''s too late and we''re down. We''re too nice to shout in enough numbers for Delia to go. Too many fans are grateful for the half mill or so that makes up our transfer kitty most seasons.

But, once we''re down and it''s too late, rest assured there will be loads of people demonstrating for the Board to clear off. Unfortunately it will be too late by then.

 

[/quote]

Not so sure about this. There was a decent amount of people chanting Roeder out at the Forest game. By the time Barnsley is here we will have been dumped out of the cup by a shocking Charlton side and hammered by Sheff Utd. Croft will probably have been flogged, Lita will have signed for a decent team and we will have Cort and Russell up front. If our fans can turn on Worthy after a season finishing 9th and half a dozen iffy results the following season then they can turn on numpty boy!

[Barclay_Boy 0]

[quote user="Stevie Wonder"][quote user="Barclay_Boy"]

[quote user="IncH_HigH"]So what do you suggest then? You lead we''ll follow.[/quote]

and there it is in a nutshell for you Spartan. Not enough people are angry enough yet, and almost certainly won''t be until it''s too late and we''re down. We''re too nice to shout in enough numbers for Delia to go. Too many fans are grateful for the half mill or so that makes up our transfer kitty most seasons.

But, once we''re down and it''s too late, rest assured there will be loads of people demonstrating for the Board to clear off. Unfortunately it will be too late by then.

 

[/quote]

Not so sure about this. There was a decent amount of people chanting Roeder out at the Forest game. By the time Barnsley is here we will have been dumped out of the cup by a shocking Charlton side and hammered by Sheff Utd. Croft will probably have been flogged, Lita will have signed for a decent team and we will have Cort and Russell up front. If our fans can turn on Worthy after a season finishing 9th and half a dozen iffy results the following season then they can turn on numpty boy!

[/quote]

yes but numpty boy will be the WRONG TARGET! He may well be doing a crap job at the minute, but without some money for whoever we want to put in charge it wont make any difference. I can''t believe it, this is lke Groundhog Day for me. Last time right up till near the end Chase got away scot free and everyone was calling for the Managers head. Please vent your anger at the real villains - THE BOARD.

[grantroederdisaster 0]

A loss at cr*p Charlton followed by the probable defeat at Sheff U will mean that more peoples eyes will be opened to the fact that Roeders no good and the Barnsley game could be intolerable!

 

I think so many fans are just now so fed up that they are so numb to do anything and get hassle from the now dwindling number of blinkered fans still defending Roedernowhere!

 

But for the sake of the clubs future fans have got to start telling the board and Roeder about how they feel and thankfully the wheels have started with the reasonably loud Roeder out chants at the Forest debacle! 

 

I think theirs also a good number of fans who don''t rate Roeder but are holding back from being firmly on the Roeder out side, citing the clubs lack of finance as a reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. This no money bullsh*t absolutely drives me mental!

 

Blackpool got under 9000  last night against the League leaders Wolves. We are averaging 24,000 yet continually complain about being skint. We''ve got more finance than the likes of  Blackpool, Barnsley and others surely?

 

Yes we''ve got money problems but continually going on about it as if we are the worst off club financially in the Championship is sickening and only helps to hide the fact that Roeder has been an awful manager for us!

 

If a big outside the stand protest against Roeder is organised similar to the Worthy out ones then I''ll be there!

[BlueJam 0]

It''s not no money bullshiit. We don''t have any, and I keep saying it but who is going to be any better the GR at the minute? The problem is the board, not the manager. Some of you just dont like Roeder because of the person he is. I understand that, he''s a bit of a prat with the things he says at times, but he isnt the issue.Our gate receipts don''t even cover player wages by all accounts, I dread to think what would happen if we lost 10k supporters a week, like it used to be in the late 90''s early 2000''s.

[steve b 0]

[quote user="grantroederdisaster"]

A loss at cr*p Charlton followed by the probable defeat at Sheff U will mean that more peoples eyes will be opened to the fact that Roeders no good and the Barnsley game could be intolerable!

 

I think so many fans are just now so fed up that they are so numb to do anything and get hassle from the now dwindling number of blinkered fans still defending Roedernowhere!

 

But for the sake of the clubs future fans have got to start telling the board and Roeder about how they feel and thankfully the wheels have started with the reasonably loud Roeder out chants at the Forest debacle! 

 

I think theirs also a good number of fans who don''t rate Roeder but are holding back from being firmly on the Roeder out side, citing the clubs lack of finance as a reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. This no money bullsh*t absolutely drives me mental!

 

Blackpool got under 9000  last night against the League leaders Wolves. We are averaging 24,000 yet continually complain about being skint. We''ve got more finance than the likes of  Blackpool, Barnsley and others surely?

 

Yes we''ve got money problems but continually going on about it as if we are the worst off club financially in the Championship is sickening and only helps to hide the fact that Roeder has been an awful manager for us!

 

If a big outside the stand protest against Roeder is organised similar to the Worthy out ones then I''ll be there!

[/quote]email neil doncaster mate and tell him how you feel, i have done so and a few others i know have to, you will get a reply from him, he''s obviously not going to agree and state that they will be getting rid of roeder to you but at least he gets to know the feeling of the fans, i do it in the hope that he''ll speak with the other board members and say maybe we need to take some action, apart from shouting roeder out at the games which i did do on sunday there isn''t too much else we can do so it''s worth writing to him, just remember to be polite in what your writing. the more emails he gets the more chance of action being taken     neild@ncfc-canaries.co.uk

[grantroederdisaster 0]

How come clubs with half our crowd levels do better than us?

 

That very fact indicates that the money problems (which I don''t doubt for a minute but most clubs have as well!) are being used as an excuse by our rubbish boss!

 

Sibierski is on big money of which we''re partly financing!

 

We''ve been paying the likes of Eagle, Henville, Koroma to do absolutely buggerall for us this season!

 

Paying Lupoli and yet the prick Roeder won''t play him even when we''ve no strikers.

 

Signed Pattison for the best part of half a million last season.

 

The signings of Stefanovic, Bell and Hoolahan would of come to over £1M.

 

The loan signings would of involved paying fees to the clubs!

 

Roeder has been backed by money, albeit not as much as he or anyone would of liked.

 

People continually quoting our money problems when trying to defend our terrible manager need to get their blinkered specs of!

[Webbo118 0]

We have more money than Blackpool, Burnley, Barnsley, Plymouth, Preston, etc but they are all out-performing us by a mile. Why? Cureton suddenly starts scoring as soon as he goes on loan but can''t hit the proverbial barn door for us. Why? Chris Brown was useless for us but is a regular in a Preston team looking good for a play-off place. Why? Managerial ability to motivate, construct a team, getting players playing for each other and the shirt perhaps. We didn''t actually have too many players earning their wages on Sunday.

[grantroederdisaster 0]

[quote user="Webbo118"]We have more money than Blackpool, Burnley, Barnsley, Plymouth, Preston, etc but they are all out-performing us by a mile. Why? Cureton suddenly starts scoring as soon as he goes on loan but can''t hit the proverbial barn door for us. Why? Chris Brown was useless for us but is a regular in a Preston team looking good for a play-off place. Why? Managerial ability to motivate, construct a team, getting players playing for each other and the shirt perhaps. We didn''t actually have too many players earning their wages on Sunday.[/quote]

 

I suspect most of this very relevent post is true!

 

 

[Largey 0]

I think there are 3 worse teams than us in this division, so we will be OK :) think positive!

[Webbo118 0]

If that''s the best you can come up with, we might as well all give up now.

[grantroederdisaster 0]

I hope your true and we can survive the Roedernowhere effect!

[ur just a man in a jacket 0]

A protest towards the board sounds the most popular....... only problem is getting enough support for people to stand outside the ground, none of this walk from the swimming pool to the directors entrance at 2.30pm crap, we need to have a BIG number of disgruntled fans outside that entrance from 1pm....when the directors start their meal. the problem is without a visible protest, the board and roeder think its all hyped up out of proportion.

 

[Largey 0]

Where will a board protest get us if we have no one else to take over? Unless you mean a protest about the manager...

[ur just a man in a jacket 0]

a ''visible'' protest to show the board our feelings about rodent. he is one of the most arrogant person i have ever heard and i was actually really pleased when he took over last year.... what a mug!

[grantroederdisaster 0]

[quote user="Largey"]Where will a board protest get us if we have no one else to take over? Unless you mean a protest about the manager...[/quote]

 

Exactly!

 

We know the board need replacing and so do they  which is why they are looking to sell but unless their are buyers what more can be done!

 

The board though can rectify one of their worst decisions and get rid of it - That is the tw*t Roeder! 

[Joanna Grey 0]

Hmmmm, yep, considering some of the things stated lately it''s quite obvious that GR is at fault for a lot of our current problems. Best he goes.

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="grantroederdisaster"]

A loss at cr*p Charlton followed by the probable defeat at Sheff U will mean that more peoples eyes will be opened to the fact that Roeders no good and the Barnsley game could be intolerable!

 

I think so many fans are just now so fed up that they are so numb to do anything and get hassle from the now dwindling number of blinkered fans still defending Roedernowhere!

 

But for the sake of the clubs future fans have got to start telling the board and Roeder about how they feel and thankfully the wheels have started with the reasonably loud Roeder out chants at the Forest debacle! 

 

I think theirs also a good number of fans who don''t rate Roeder but are holding back from being firmly on the Roeder out side, citing the clubs lack of finance as a reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. This no money bullsh*t absolutely drives me mental!

 

Blackpool got under 9000  last night against the League leaders Wolves. We are averaging 24,000 yet continually complain about being skint. We''ve got more finance than the likes of  Blackpool, Barnsley and others surely?

 

Yes we''ve got money problems but continually going on about it as if we are the worst off club financially in the Championship is sickening and only helps to hide the fact that Roeder has been an awful manager for us!

 

If a big outside the stand protest against Roeder is organised similar to the Worthy out ones then I''ll be there!

[/quote]

Blackpool  brought in 12 players in the summer.... Marlon Broomes (undisclosed), David Vaughan (£200k), Alex Baptiste (Undisclosed - weren''t we interested in buying this guy off Mansfiel at one point), Jermaine Wright (Free Transfer), Joe Martin (Undisclosed), Matthew Gilks (Free Transfer), Daniel Nardello (Swap deal with QPR for Kaspr Gorkks), Rob Edwards (Undisclosed), Ian Harte (Free), Michael D''Agastino (Undisclosed), Lee Hendrie (Undisclosed), Alan Gow, (Undisclosed).

Granted they have not spent very much on each of them but I seriously doubt whether they have spent any less than oursleves.  They also brough in another 3 players on loan.  Is this what we are really comparing ourselves against these days?  Teams who struggle to get crowds of 7,000+?  You should be ashamed of yourself!!! [:$]

As for Barnsley... Darren Moore (Free Transfer), Hugo Colace (Undisclosed), Iain Hume (£1.2 million - that is more than our entire transfer budget spent so far this season on one player), Mounir El Haimour (Undisclosed), Anderson De Silva (Season long loan deal from Everton), Luke Steele (Undisclosed), Maceo Rigters (season long loan from Blackburn).

So there you have it... both teams that you mention have spent more than (or at least as much as) us in the transfer market.

I agree that we have more finance (or we should have), but if that is the case then why are we not using it?

All of the teams that you lot are comparing us against when you say we are spending money all seem to of spent at least as much as us, if not more.

Do a bit of research in future before embarassing yourself hey???

The only teams who I have found so far who have spent less than us this season are Sheff Weds and Swansea.

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="grantroederdisaster"]

[quote user="Webbo118"]We have more money than Blackpool, Burnley, Barnsley, Plymouth, Preston, etc but they are all out-performing us by a mile. Why? Cureton suddenly starts scoring as soon as he goes on loan but can''t hit the proverbial barn door for us. Why? Chris Brown was useless for us but is a regular in a Preston team looking good for a play-off place. Why? Managerial ability to motivate, construct a team, getting players playing for each other and the shirt perhaps. We didn''t actually have too many players earning their wages on Sunday.[/quote]

 

I suspect most of this very relevent post is true!

 

 

[/quote]

Well you suspect wrong then don''t you!!!

Burnley, Barnsley, Preston have all definetely spent more money than us this season.

Blackpool have spent just as much as us I would suggest.

Bear with me on Plymouth and I will let you know.

[Smudger 0]

Plymouths signings this season so far... Karl Duguid (Undisclosed -  Maybe Cam can help us out with the fee that was involved here seeing as he was Colchester Utd''s captain), James Paterson (Undisclosed), Simon Walton (£500k from Hull City), Chris Clark (£200k), Steve MacLean (£500k from Cardiff), Chris Barker (Undisclosed from QPR but likely to be a few hundred thousand quid), David McNamee (Free Transfer from Coventry), Craig Noone (£100k), Graham Stack (Free Transfer), Emile Mpenza (Believe this was a free transfer but think they have signed him up to at least a two year deal where they are paying him premiership type wages).

Oh they also have Paul Gallagher on loan from Blackburn for the season and another youngster from Man Utd.

So there you have it... yet again you are talking utter bull... Plymouth have spent more than us too!!!

Any other clubs you would like to throw in to the mix????

[macdougalls perm 0]

[quote user="Spartan"]At the Barnsley game we need to leave the arrogant Roeder and incompetent board in no doubt as to our disgust with the plight that THEY have created for our club. Wake up and smell the coffee; we are in freefall towards Division 3 and obscure mediocrity. Lack of action by fans will only hasten the process, and confirm to the board that the majority are now resigned to what they consider to be the inevitable. Our beloved club is rudderless with a manager and board totally bereft of ideas on how to move forward. How about this for a suggestion? Whatever it takes get Roeder out of the Carrow Road exit asap, get a manager with ambition, man management skills and charisma in before the next league game, and then we might JUST stand a chance of survival. Taking no action at all, and tolerating the current situation, means YOU are no better than Roeder or the board.[/quote]

I assume that typing this post counts as ''action'' then? [*-)]

I don''t think that anyone is complacently thinking that everything is going to be okay.

[Spartan 0]

At home games, starting with Barnsley, fans need to clearly show their displeasure at the incompetency of the board AND Roeder; this needs to happen throughout the ground and be maintained before, during, and after the game. As several of you suggest, an arranged meeting time outside the ground to voice our growing frustrations and anxieties, and then in the ground and after again outside. At least its positive action and should attract some media attention.

[Badger 0]

[quote user="Smudger"][quote user="grantroederdisaster"]

[quote user="Webbo118"]We have more money than Blackpool, Burnley, Barnsley, Plymouth, Preston, etc but they are all out-performing us by a mile. Why? Cureton suddenly starts scoring as soon as he goes on loan but can''t hit the proverbial barn door for us. Why? Chris Brown was useless for us but is a regular in a Preston team looking good for a play-off place. Why? Managerial ability to motivate, construct a team, getting players playing for each other and the shirt perhaps. We didn''t actually have too many players earning their wages on Sunday.[/quote]

 

I suspect most of this very relevent post is true!

 

 

[/quote]

Well you suspect wrong then don''t you!!!

Burnley, Barnsley, Preston have all definetely spent more money than us this season.

Blackpool have spent just as much as us I would suggest.

Bear with me on Plymouth and I will let you know.

[/quote]So how much did Burnley, Barnesley and Preston spend in total?

[tribes 0]

[quote user="Badger"][quote user="Smudger"][quote user="grantroederdisaster"]

[quote user="Webbo118"]We have more money than Blackpool, Burnley, Barnsley, Plymouth, Preston, etc but they are all out-performing us by a mile. Why? Cureton suddenly starts scoring as soon as he goes on loan but can''t hit the proverbial barn door for us. Why? Chris Brown was useless for us but is a regular in a Preston team looking good for a play-off place. Why? Managerial ability to motivate, construct a team, getting players playing for each other and the shirt perhaps. We didn''t actually have too many players earning their wages on Sunday.[/quote]

 

I suspect most of this very relevent post is true!

 

 

[/quote]

Well you suspect wrong then don''t you!!!

Burnley, Barnsley, Preston have all definetely spent more money than us this season.

Blackpool have spent just as much as us I would suggest.

Bear with me on Plymouth and I will let you know.

[/quote]

So how much did Burnley, Barnesley and Preston spend in total?

[/quote]GR has put the emphasis on loan signings wage bill is £8.5 MILLION, would be interested to know which clubs come anywhere near that.

[Graham Humphrey 13]

I thought our total player budget was £8.5m, not our wage budget, which presumably is slightly different.

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Largey"]I think there are 3 worse teams than us in this division, so we will be OK [/quote]

What a tragic statement![:S]

[still holding out for new heroes 0]

[quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Largey"]I think there are 3 worse teams than us in this division, so we will be OK [/quote]

What a tragic statement![:S]

[/quote]

and would be merely a stay of execution till next season....