nik wyer 0 Posted July 20, 2006 There are several posters who i read and and 99.9 % of the time i either agree or disagree with, I always agree with Rudolph Hucker, who i think always writes great posts, and like myself try to look from the glass half full school of thought, Disagree ? well i am getting to the stage where i tend not to bother reading any posts from a certain Mr Rankin, as i know they will always be negative or depressing,and as for 1st Wizard, i think alot of his posts are /were done just to wind people up and to cause a reaction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary02 0 Posted July 20, 2006 Paul Rankin gets more stick than he deserves because he goes too far on occasion, but a lot of his posts make sense. (Except the Etuhu ones!). 1st Wizard is a child, surely?Death of Canaries makes me laugh, and so does Rudolph most of the time.Mook and Blahblahblah seem to be the most ostracising characters as they immediately class you as either KTF or Worthy Out and treat all your posts as such without actually reading them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted July 20, 2006 Oi Oi!! When there is something positive to talk about I will get positive!! [;)]I always agree with Hucker and Mello Yello (although I am not always sure what he is talking about). Also MacDougal''s Perm and Beelsie (apart from on a managers role).I strongly disagree with anybody of the opinion that we should follow the board because they must know what is right for the club.... Never have I heard such crap in my life. This is the same board of directors whom didn''t want Brian Hamilton to leave!!! Delia pleaded with him to stay!! That shows their football knowledge down to a tee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blahblahblah 2 Posted July 20, 2006 Canary02, I wasn''t aware I was doing that, I will watch for it in future. I do read the things I reply to, honest ! I think most people in here are in the middle ground of fans - Happy to go to the games, hope for the best, and enjoy the experience.I find myself defending the club on the basis that so many people seem to be attacking the club with unsubstantiated rumours, lies, and in a few really sad cases, plain and simple hatred. People who react to Worthington like he''s put their windows through should think about the statements they make too. If someone has a fair, constructive point to make based on reality, then great, I enjoyed reading the threads on formations for example. Systematic and constant attacks on the club for the sake of it lead nowhere, but they come up nearly every day, they very rarely say anything new, and when they do it''s generally a direct contradiction of the last thing that the same person was complaining about.As for posters - I think that ZippersLeftFoot makes good, thoughtful points, reads the game well, although I suspect that he disagrees with most if not all of my posts. I would like to think that if Norwich start to perform well, that the manager can win people like him over. Hucker, McDougalls Perm, Tumbleweed, always interesting and entertaining. Mello Yello is funny and I enjoy the banter. Paul - Fewer posts, more thought please. I could be considered guilty of the same.[quote]I strongly disagree with anybody of the opinion that we should follow the board because they must know what is right for the club.... Never have I heard such crap in my life. This is the same board of directors whom didn''t want Brian Hamilton to leave!!! Delia pleaded with him to stay!! That shows their football knowledge down to a tee.[/quote]I strongly disagree with anyone that believes that they can change the management situation at Carrow Road, unless they''re on the board of directors. You might not like them, but they are in charge until they sell up. The only criteria that can change the management is poor results. On that basis I am sure that we all want Worthington to stay, because we all want a successful team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mook 0 Posted July 20, 2006 Why thanks, Canary02. I think you may have me mistaken for someone else. The whole WO v KTF thing winds me up something chronic!In fact, if I could be bothered I would go through (Paul Rankin) style and copy&paste all the posts I have written about people calling me KTF or WO.I am neither!!! I wanted Worthy out, and now I realise he''s here for the next few months at least so I''m hunkering down for the new season.As for the actual thread: ZLF, Temp, Herb, Blah, Rudolph, Yellow Shrimper, Tumbleweed, Yellow Hammer and anyone else that doesn''t post constant threads about the "clown" or Hughes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Rages 0 Posted July 20, 2006 I tend to find myself agreeing and disagreeing with all posters at different times. Probably because my view and opinion tends to change with the times and the merits of the issue at hand.I always disagree with Mr Rankin though as a matter of principal ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Monkey 52 Posted July 20, 2006 [quote user="Canary02"]Death of Canaries makes me laugh[/quote]Is that just because of my clown shoes, though?There are a lot of people on here who make a lot of sense, no matter what "side" of the argument they''re on. There are a few like blahblahblah and nh_ncfc who are slightly more blinkered than others and often seem totally unwilling to consider a point of view that differs from their own. But on the other side, Paul Rankin is the same.In the middle there are numerous people who look at things from both sides, and can respect the points of views of others. These are the posters I agree with the most, and the likes of Canary02 (not just reciprocating, honest), Rudolph and Saint Canary are in this category.1st Wiz isn''t a child, and through the extreme views his posts sometimes make more sense than they first appear to. Plus he''s a fellow Pratchett fan, so that''s always a good thing! [:D]I think in general the only people I tend to disagree completely with are those who seem to think that Carol Robinson has even the smallest amount of footballing ability... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted July 20, 2006 [quote user="blahblahblah"] [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"]I strongly disagree with anybody of the opinion that we should follow the board because they must know what is right for the club.... Never have I heard such crap in my life. This is the same board of directors whom didn''t want Brian Hamilton to leave!!! Delia pleaded with him to stay!! That shows their football knowledge down to a tee.[/quote]I strongly disagree with anyone that believes that they can change the management situation at Carrow Road, unless they''re on the board of directors. You might not like them, but they are in charge until they sell up. The only criteria that can change the management is poor results. On that basis I am sure that we all want Worthington to stay, because we all want a successful team.[/quote]The only criteria that can change the management is poor results I don''t for a single second beleive this to be true - it wasnt true with Brian Hamilton and it isnt true now. Public pressure is the only way to remove Worthy from his job, without pressure Delia won''t sack her friend unless we get relegated, even then I doubt it. However if there are roars inside the ground from the off of a match he will have to go. A lot depends on the start to the season - Worthy is in last chance saloon with many whom still support him, let alone those whom are against him. Look at the O''Leary situation at Villa - a failing manager - if the fans hadn''t turned on him he would still be in charge today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huck tastic<IMG src="http:new.pinkun.comforumsimagesline.gif"><BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Bryan Hamilton could turn this around...<BR><FONT> 0 Posted July 20, 2006 I think Hucktastic always speaks a lot of sense... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Temp the Revelator 0 Posted July 20, 2006 I tend to agree most with the likes of Saint Canary, Yellow Hammer, Yellow Shrimper, Mook etc. I always enjoy reading posts from ZLF and blahblahblah - one from each side of the fence. I also always enjoys beelsie''s well thought out posts.I most often disagree with Squit, Dicky, Paul Rankin, Ralph Wright - their views are always too extreme and very blinkered for my liking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Canary 0 Posted July 20, 2006 I don''t tend to agree or disagree with anyone on mass, I both agree and disagree with lots of posters. I enjoy certain posters input and look out for anything they may write. ZLF, Mook (who gave me no honourable mention!!!), Yellow Rider (who posts too rarely), Temp, Tumbleweed are the few that spring to mind but there are many more.I''m going to defend Paul Rankin here though - he does post some good stuff. He did not join in on the bandwagon that was criticising worthy for not signing Wright-Phillips and acknowledged that a striker of his type was not what we needed. I just think a lot of his "best" points get lost in all the anger and frustration he tends to spew forth in the majority of his posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mook 0 Posted July 20, 2006 Jeez, did I miss Saint off my little list? Sorry Saint! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted July 20, 2006 Yep Saint Canary and ZLF, should have been on my list. I quite agree with a lot Mook has to say - sometimes anyway [;)].Actually Saint probably has the exact views I feel, if I could stop going off on one!!Football is fickle - and should Worthington prove to have learned lesson''s, adapted, and get us promoted I will be the first to stand up admit I was wrong and herald our leader!! Can''t see it happening however - set in his ways and arrogance does not lend itself to learning lesson''s and improving. haveing said that, today I beleive he has admitted a mistake he made!! Something I have advocated for a long time. It takes a big man to admit he was wrong and do something about it. Management is not about playing the blame game, it is about taking responsibility. - I notice he coulkd be blaming Steve Foley however!! [:P]"It is a world away this time round and partly that was a mistake - my fault, the coaching staff''s fault - in trying to be too kind; in trying to give too many minutes to too many players so that everyone was up to the same level," admitted Worthington, with his big players all granted far more game time this summer."This year round we''re giving a more limited number of players more pre-season games; the others will be working harder in training to keep them up to scratch. But there will be a group that will be well drilled and will have had plenty of pre-season minutes under their belt as far as the games are concerned and are looking forward to being involved in that Leeds United game." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nh_ncfc 0 Posted July 20, 2006 I would probably put alot of people down for that one. I agree with different people all the time. But Mook for one, i agree with almost every post. Saint Canary is also another, and at times, also death of canaries and blahblahblah.And as to what Death of Canaries Wrote,Sorry i come accross like that, i don''t mean to!, honest! lol. I am neither WO or KTF, and the hatred between some fans and now the club even annoys me so much. At times OK, i ''spose i can sound a little over-forcing my oppinion, but thats probably because i can''t understand how to ''''qoute'''' somones post after starting my own post. So then it looks like i''ve just said my view and not replies with repsect to the other persons.And ZippersLeftFoot is also another person i tend to agree with alot to. Oh yes! And also Jaz - she makes me laugh nearly every other post! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 751 Posted July 20, 2006 I''ve read the posts on here for ages but have only recently put a toe in the water as far as posting is concerned.Compared with other NCFC forums this is by miles the most entertaining one. I don''t mind all the spleen venting over Worthington, it''s the main topic after all!I always enjoy Mook and Mellow Yellow who often make me laugh (believe me with my job that takes some doing!) and Saint is always interesting and reasonable, although I tend not to agree with all of what he says.Paul Rankin, what can you say? Often he starts fine and then ends up going on a random, yet repetative, rant. I always feel like responding to his posts which can''t be bad. But for taking the biscuit it''s got to be Blah x3. Please Mr Blah try and be a bit more accomodating. Whatever the club says or does you agree with, surely you have an oppinion of your own? Also, try and understand that when other posters are critical it is bourne out of concern for the club they want to succeed: they can''t sit silent and watch things going in what they feel is the wrong direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herb 0 Posted July 20, 2006 I only agree with myself, the rest of you are all quite mad. Just kidding :)Anyone who doesn''t constantly repeat themselves or resort to slaggingoff the players/staff - by that I don''t mean criticism whenplayers/staff aren''t performing, but the petty, personal nature of someposts is nauseating. I don''t have to agree with a post to appreciate it, we''re a broad church. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nh_ncfc 0 Posted July 20, 2006 I think that post was well said mate. But about the Blah bit, i suppose you could also argue that blah only says this because if what other supporters say (WO) comes into action, then he will feel that the club is in the wrong direction.I do see what you mean, but i think rather than taking sides to some extent, we should all keep believing our views but not let them get in the way of eachother. After all - we all want the same thing, Success. But how are we going to get that, if we''re all quarrelling like little spoilt kids?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nh_ncfc 0 Posted July 20, 2006 My last post was supposed to be replying to what ''''Hairy Canary'''' wrote. It didn''t Qoute.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beelsie 0 Posted July 20, 2006 I like to read most of the posters fully, except the ones who seem to loose their cool and therefore quality. Whether they agree with me or not is neither here nor there as long as the points are well made and the argument based on fact rather than speculation. Some resort to name calling and rude childish rants and one i''m afraid wears a pointy hat and spoils some good points with absolute tosh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blahblahblah 2 Posted July 20, 2006 [quote]But for taking the biscuit it''s got to be Blah x3. Please Mr Blah try and be a bit more accomodating. Whatever the club says or does you agree with, surely you have an oppinion of your own? Also, try and understand that when other posters are critical it is bourne out of concern for the club they want to succeed: they can''t sit silent and watch things going in what they feel is the wrong direction.[/quote]Like I''ve said before, I don''t consider myself to be KTF, but anti-BS. My main opinions are that this club is run in the best interests of its fans, and that ditching a manager for a) having a team that was out of its depth in the Premiership b) struggling to re-adjust to the Championship as many do, will result in a longer period of mid-table mediocrity than keeping the manager.These boards are used in a systematic manner to create unrest in the fan-base by people who want Worthington out . Same with the marches, same with the beach balls, same with barracking Green to the point that he uses hand-gestures to the crowds, same with booing our own players and cheering opposition goals.If you think that should go unchallenged, fair enough. I don''t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rudolph Hucker 0 Posted July 20, 2006 Are some of you trying to upset me by saying you agree with my views? I hate compliments.I always read Wiz because you can hear his voice in his words and I have a mental picture of him I would never wish to spoil by actually meeting him.Yankee is similar although not always easy to comprehend, he should try coming down to our level more.I am glad to see Fat Barman back and hope to see a post from Gazza soon.Other than that LGT is often on my wavelength, Mello is on something and I want some and too many others to mention are all part of the rich fabric.I do hate long rambling posts though and tend to give up half way through so only get fed up wth anyone when they ramble or otherwise take people like me too seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Canary 0 Posted July 20, 2006 [quote user="Rudolph Hucker"]Are some of you trying to upset me by saying you agree with my views? I hate compliments. I always read Wiz because you can hear his voice in his words and I have a mental picture of him I would never wish to spoil by actually meeting him. Yankee is similar although not always easy to comprehend, he should try coming down to our level more. I am glad to see Fat Barman back and hope to see a post from Gazza soon. Other than that LGT is often on my wavelength, Mello is on something and I want some and too many others to mention are all part of the rich fabric. I do hate long rambling posts though and tend to give up half way through so only get fed up wth anyone when they ramble or otherwise take people like me too seriously.[/quote]Don''t worry Rude Old - I don''t agree with anything you say [:p] - that should keep you happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mook 0 Posted July 20, 2006 I think Blah''s come in for some unfair stick on this thread, and others.His "job" on here seems to be to excercise some balance - ie. when it gets stupid, personal, rude and nasty about the club, he takes the other side and puts it right back from whence it came.And, to be fair, I think there''s a few of us that post "pro-club" statements just to balance out some of the over-zealous hatefulness that is directed at our manager, players and now alarmingly, our board.It might seem opinionated to others, but I think if Blah wasn''t highlighting the positive side of things, you would genuinely believe we were a football club in grave turmoil.When, of course, we''re just football club who aren''t playing very well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mook 0 Posted July 20, 2006 Does anyone know if the legend "Dumble Delia is Magic" is still visiting these boards? DDiM had a post count that would put Rankin''s to shame! And what about AJ?Where are you, boys?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted July 20, 2006 i agree with alot of whats said on here.. be they KTF or WO.. as Herb says u have to appreciate the posyts even if u dont agree jas :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Shrimper 0 Posted July 20, 2006 How about if we have a ''thread'' where we discuss which posters we agree with when they''re debating other posters, then we could have another ''thread'' where we discuss which posters we agree with when they''re debating which posters they agree with when they''re debating other posters, then we could have another ''thread'' where we discuss which posters we agree when they''re debating which posters they agree with when . . . oh hang it, I''m lost. Actually, though it might sound as if I''m taking the p**s I found this one quite good fun really . . . and everyone''s being so reasonable. Hey, that''s my role, I''ve come on here to be the voice of reason (well innocent optimism actually); do I find myself almost longing for the return of the more ''forceful'' views? Surely not! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted July 20, 2006 "1st Wizard is a child, surely?"I agree CO2 (I put that in my fish tanks by the way!) I''m a total 58 year old child, who flatly refuses to grow up!. In fact I''m considering changing my name to Peter Pan.My favourite posters are far too many to mention, and the ones who annoy me don''t deserve a mention at all, This is called fence sitting by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Raven 276 Posted July 20, 2006 I''ll be seeing DumbleDelia in a few weeks and I shall quiz him as to his absence from these boards - I''m guessing he finished uni and found a job... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blahblahblah 2 Posted July 20, 2006 Exactly Mook. And thanks for saying so.In terms of report cards, we''re a "must try harder", we''re "not see me afterwards" just yet.The saddest thing about last season is that in becoming a morgue / panto, Carrow Road forgot how to enjoy the spectacle of a game. It''s more than just the players, it''s the fans too.The fans have to take the positive group experience back from those who want to use people power to exert their opinions.A friend of mine is a Sheffield Wednesday supporter, and they were playing Aston Villa away, so I went with him. It was just before Xmas, and they had 9 points from about 16 matches. To their own disbelief they went a goal ahead, but fell behind in the second half to eventually lose 2-1. They weren''t calling for the managers'' head, they were singing this :"We''re not very good, We''re not very good, We''re not very, We''re not very, We''re not very good."I''d rather be a Wednesday fan than a Villa fan. They didn''t demand the managers head on a pole, they kept their sense of humour. We need to get our sense of humour back, and start enjoying being a crowd again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rudolph Hucker 0 Posted July 20, 2006 Careful Blah! You are starting to sound like you work for NCFC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites