The Raptor 1,573 Posted July 16 Hurry People. Dean Smith is 150/1 on a few sites. It's basically free money! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,830 Posted July 17 Can see it now, FA sponsored mug on the sidelines, telling wembley they're the problem while Gibraltar scores their 4th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,008 Posted July 17 On 16/07/2024 at 11:37, The Raptor said: Hurry People. Dean Smith is 150/1 on a few sites. It's basically free money! I'm surprised he's not in the running for the USMNT job, or maybe I'm not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted July 17 The more I think about it, the more I think he would be just the person the FA might go for. Nothing would surprise me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,444 Posted July 17 Being reported FA prepared to wait for Guardiola pipe dreams are good in a way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,929 Posted July 17 "I just create the environment, it's not my fault they missed all their pens!" "We're missing Jack... They're all missing him, I'm missing him ...Nice lad is our Jack." "I said to Jobe, I got your brother to a World Cup, I can do the same with you" etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 606 Posted July 18 Its laughable Potter has been out of eork for what, 14-15 months, and all of a sudden he's ready for his next job. He'd not be my first choice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGoogler 604 Posted July 18 7 minutes ago, Samwam27 said: Its laughable Potter has been out of eork for what, 14-15 months, and all of a sudden he's ready for his next job. He'd not be my first choice! Who would be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,008 Posted July 18 To be fair if you think about previous England managers not many of them would have been people's first choice. There have been some right duffers. Southgate wasn't yet will probably prove an impossible act to follow for the next man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wr4sb 66 Posted July 19 https://careers.thefa.com/jobs/vacancy/england-mens-senior-team-head-coach-nfcsgp0377-national-football-centre-st-georges-park/2137/description/ The successful criteria seems a bit restrictive, but I'm sure you don't need ALL of them to apply... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,784 Posted July 19 On 18/07/2024 at 17:08, Samwam27 said: Its laughable Potter has been out of eork for what, 14-15 months, and all of a sudden he's ready for his next job. He'd not be my first choice! still under contract to chelsea, see earlier comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,008 Posted July 19 1 hour ago, wcorkcanary said: still under contract to chelsea, see earlier comments. But then Chelsea might be happy to do a deal with the FA on having a fair proportion up front, and a few 'concessions' added re PSR.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 606 Posted July 19 Id prefer Chelsea keep Potter on their books tbh🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,008 Posted July 19 1 minute ago, Samwam27 said: Id prefer Chelsea keep Potter on their books tbh🤣 Yeah me too. I'm not huge Howe fan but he has done a decent job at Newcastle. Newcastle might well sack him and keep him under 'contract', the same as Potter. Replacing Southgate won't be cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted July 19 24 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: Yeah me too. I'm not huge Howe fan but he has done a decent job at Newcastle. Newcastle might well sack him and keep him under 'contract', the same as Potter. Replacing Southgate won't be cheap. England fans not keen on Howe or Potter but I could never see a Premier League team wanting Southgate. Are the two jobs that hard to bridge over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Angry 2,016 Posted July 19 38 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: But then Chelsea might be happy to do a deal with the FA on having a fair proportion up front, and a few 'concessions' added re PSR.  I don't think the FA have any say over PSR do they? It's the EPL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 606 Posted July 19 2 hours ago, Capt. Pants said: Yeah me too. I'm not huge Howe fan but he has done a decent job at Newcastle. Newcastle might well sack him and keep him under 'contract', the same as Potter. Replacing Southgate won't be cheap. Im not sure what Potters record is. Getting Brighton to 9th in the Premiership is all hes achieved isnt it. Howe got Newcastle to Champions league and whilst both meet the job spec criteria of knowing english football, neither rings 'take England to victory in a major competition' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Raptor 1,573 Posted July 19 4 hours ago, wr4sb said: https://careers.thefa.com/jobs/vacancy/england-mens-senior-team-head-coach-nfcsgp0377-national-football-centre-st-georges-park/2137/description/ The successful criteria seems a bit restrictive, but I'm sure you don't need ALL of them to apply... I have extensive experience of all those criteria except the Pro license. Football Manager counts right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wr4sb 66 Posted July 20 Of course, I think it will have to. I mean, looking at the criteria, I think "Will have significant experience of English football, with a strong track record delivering results in the Premier League and/or leading international competitions." will knock out the majority of English coaches... So, if it's English coaches I guess that means Southgate, Howe (for a season?), um, ok, struggling... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted July 20 Are they really going to risk appointing Guardiola? There is the possibility that he has been directly involved in the financial arrangements at Manchester City and that could be very embarrassing indeed. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,784 Posted July 20 3 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: Are they really going to risk appointing Guardiola? There is the possibility that he has been directly involved in the financial arrangements at Manchester City and that could be very embarrassing indeed. I can't believe they would either , but i also don't really believe that they are seriously considering him, or that he'd want the job anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 7,377 Posted July 20 (edited) Would Guardiola really be that good as an international manager? Face it, he's got a great club record, but it's all been with teams that are naturally dominant within their leagues/teams that are financially doped relative to most. He's excellent at building teams to fit how he wants to play and is clearly also superb at gradually evolving them over time so they stay at the top of the game, but by definition that requires an unlimited database of players, loads of time on the training ground to gel a team together, and plenty of cash, whereas international football is the polar opposite. EDIT: At least you could say Southgate had good experience with the England U21s and knew that band of players inside out before being appointed. Can't say the same about Guardiola/Klopp in terms of internationals. The more I mull it, the more I think Carsley should get the gig and moreover, the more I think succession planning should be done such that the U21 manager gets first call. Edited July 20 by TheGunnShow 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted July 20 42 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: Would Guardiola really be that good as an international manager? Face it, he's got a great club record, but it's all been with teams that are naturally dominant within their leagues/teams that are financially doped relative to most. He's excellent at building teams to fit how he wants to play and is clearly also superb at gradually evolving them over time so they stay at the top of the game, but by definition that requires an unlimited database of players, loads of time on the training ground to gel a team together, and plenty of cash, whereas international football is the polar opposite. EDIT: At least you could say Southgate had good experience with the England U21s and knew that band of players inside out before being appointed. Can't say the same about Guardiola/Klopp in terms of internationals. The more I mull it, the more I think Carsley should get the gig and moreover, the more I think succession planning should be done such that the U21 manager gets first call. I had a very small bet on Carsley not so long ago. The FA will be terrified of anyone who may say the wrong thing. If I was going for a foreigner it would be the guy at Spurs but he probably scares the living daylights out of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 7,377 Posted July 20 1 minute ago, dylanisabaddog said: I had a very small bet on Carsley not so long ago. The FA will be terrified of anyone who may say the wrong thing. If I was going for a foreigner it would be the guy at Spurs but he probably scares the living daylights out of them. Think Postecoglou would be a better shout than both Guardiola or Klopp to be honest - international experience again. Won't happen though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,008 Posted July 20 13 hours ago, Midlands Yellow said: England fans not keen on Howe or Potter but I could never see a Premier League team wanting Southgate. Are the two jobs that hard to bridge over? It appears so. Not just an English thing either. I can't think of many recent examples of previously successful club coaches doing well at international level, possibly Mancini. Howe seems to be distancing himself from the role now. I think my first choice would be Big Ange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,784 Posted July 20 20 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: Think Postecoglou would be a better shout than both Guardiola or Klopp to be honest - international experience again. Won't happen though. I like Big Ange , talks a lot of sense, might not be PC enough for the FA though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 7,377 Posted July 20 1 minute ago, wcorkcanary said: I like Big Ange , talks a lot of sense, might not be PC enough for the FA though. To be fair Corkie, there's part of me that would like to see Postecoglou in for EXACTLY that reason. That said, I've always quite enjoyed those moments where managers/DoFs etc. have moments where they say things that many consider a shade too frank for the sensitivities of many! But if you want a manager who gets his teams on the front foot whilst having plenty of international experience, he's a good starting point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,784 Posted July 20 (edited) 12 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: To be fair Corkie, there's part of me that would like to see Postecoglou in for EXACTLY that reason. That said, I've always quite enjoyed those moments where managers/DoFs etc. have moments where they say things that many consider a shade too frank for the sensitivities of many! But if you want a manager who gets his teams on the front foot whilst having plenty of international experience, he's a good starting point. Agree 100% . Nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade when needed. I wasn't against the idea because of his frankness, to me it's very much part of his appeal. Edited July 20 by wcorkcanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,789 Posted July 20 On 17/07/2024 at 14:31, lake district canary said: The more I think about it, the more I think he would be just the person the FA might go for. Nothing would surprise me. It would surprise me. There is more chance of Lord Lucan getting the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
