hogesar 9,676 Posted March 15 It's perfectly understandable that Ben White doesn't want to play for England in the summer. It's his peak self-tanning season. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,730 Posted March 15 5 minutes ago, Ulfotto said: From "I better get home before dark mum wants me to finish my homework" to "oy oy lads guess who's been called up to be on Love Island?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,142 Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Ulfotto said: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,235 Posted March 15 (edited) It’s a bit hamfisted but I get what Wright’s saying. Representing your country is meant to be an honour, but I guess for some of these guys it’s a low paid distraction. That’s a sad shame. Edited March 15 by Monty13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JUBWICKS75 48 Posted March 15 Good on Ben, have a holiday son 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted March 15 I like Wrighty, but he's gone absolutely full window-licker on this one. In fact, I respect White more for simply saying "I do not fancy it" (or words/actions to that effect) and has made it clear that Southgate can pick someone else. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,676 Posted March 15 1 minute ago, TheGunnShow said: I like Wrighty, but he's gone absolutely full window-licker on this one. In fact, I respect White more for simply saying "I do not fancy it" (or words/actions to that effect) and has made it clear that Southgate can pick someone else. I dont think I could ever respect it. As it stands I don't think he's good enough to worry about, and that tan isn't going to top itself up anyway. Equally its not about him not fancying it, he's just a bit of a tw*t who couldn't take a comment from Steve Holland and refuses on that basis. Or, that's his excuse at least. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC_NCFC 67 Posted March 15 Ben White’s a bit of an oddball to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted March 15 (edited) 14 minutes ago, hogesar said: I dont think I could ever respect it. As it stands I don't think he's good enough to worry about, and that tan isn't going to top itself up anyway. Equally its not about him not fancying it, he's just a bit of a tw*t who couldn't take a comment from Steve Holland and refuses on that basis. Or, that's his excuse at least. Other way round for me, I respect that he's set a boundary and is willing to stick to it. If he thinks the atmosphere is that unamenable to him and doesn't enjoy it, then fair play to him for saying "count me out". He's not going to be the first player who wouldn't want to make himself available, this is just a case where it went public. EDIT: Think Southgate's handling it nicely, to be fair. Made it clear that he'd like White there on current form as no doubt some fans would be asking the question, and he's said the door's open at any time. Can't legislate for a player not wanting to be there, but a player also has every right to refuse - it's just unusual. Edited March 15 by TheGunnShow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,241 Posted March 15 Not sure why Wrighty is a dunce? His point is valid, and White has finally had a season where he looks anything otherthan bang average. No great loss and he wouldn't make the starting XI anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBaldOne66 689 Posted March 16 12 hours ago, hogesar said: I dont think I could ever respect it. As it stands I don't think he's good enough to worry about, and that tan isn't going to top itself up anyway. Equally its not about him not fancying it, he's just a bit of a tw*t who couldn't take a comment from Steve Holland and refuses on that basis. Or, that's his excuse at least. He’d fit in well on here then as a lot of t**** whinge about comments on here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,773 Posted March 16 He's isn't good enough anyway 🤷♂️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,409 Posted March 16 I'm with Wrighty! Even though I'm not bothered that much with England, it's your ****ing country, every man should do his duty etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,609 Posted March 16 How are we this far into the thread without anyone pointing out this Ian Wright quote comes from 2014. I wonder if you asked him now if he'd stand by it- I'd imagine not. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARYKING 639 Posted March 16 Had a major fall out with Southgate’s assistant (can’t remember his name ) a few years ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mengo 823 Posted March 16 23 minutes ago, king canary said: How are we this far into the thread without anyone pointing out this Ian Wright quote comes from 2014. I wonder if you asked him now if he'd stand by it- I'd imagine not. 10 years ago . Nice detective work 🤣KC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted March 16 (edited) 32 minutes ago, king canary said: How are we this far into the thread without anyone pointing out this Ian Wright quote comes from 2014. I wonder if you asked him now if he'd stand by it- I'd imagine not. It's still moronic as all hell regardless of time period as far as I'm concerned. I'd hope he wouldn't stand by it any more when it dawned on him how dreadful a comparison it was. Edited March 16 by TheGunnShow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,609 Posted March 16 23 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: It's still moronic as all hell regardless of time period as far as I'm concerned. I'd hope he wouldn't stand by it any more when it dawned on him how dreadful a comparison it was. Yeah its stupid but it is being presented as if Wright said this in a response to the Ben White situation, when he didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,359 Posted March 16 It’s well-documented that Ben White isn’t a football obsessive. It’s just a job, he gets in, does it and then goes home to his family and enjoys his other hobbies etc. by all accounts he doesn’t enjoy watching football either. So you can see how weeks away from family, living and breathing football every second, watching endless matches and dealing with a coach with whom he’d had a major falling out is enough for him to say “thanks but no thanks”. I’d much rather he hold his hands up and let someone else have the opportunity who’ll be keen and fully “in” on the experience than he just turn up and phone it in, lord knows we’ve seen enough players in England shirts over the years that have looked like they’d rather be anywhere else. I certainly don’t see what’s to gain from the media attempting to match him there at gunpoint! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,609 Posted March 16 7 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said: It’s well-documented that Ben White isn’t a football obsessive. It’s just a job, he gets in, does it and then goes home to his family and enjoys his other hobbies etc. by all accounts he doesn’t enjoy watching football either. So you can see how weeks away from family, living and breathing football every second, watching endless matches and dealing with a coach with whom he’d had a major falling out is enough for him to say “thanks but no thanks”. I’d much rather he hold his hands up and let someone else have the opportunity who’ll be keen and fully “in” on the experience than he just turn up and phone it in, lord knows we’ve seen enough players in England shirts over the years that have looked like they’d rather be anywhere else. I certainly don’t see what’s to gain from the media attempting to match him there at gunpoint! It is one of those things that we as fans can find very tough to understand- we love football and thus all footballers should to. The idea some players aren't actually big lovers of the game can be jarring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,359 Posted March 16 33 minutes ago, king canary said: It is one of those things that we as fans can find very tough to understand- we love football and thus all footballers should to. The idea some players aren't actually big lovers of the game can be jarring. You get the same thing in tech, there are some that assume we’re all spending our evenings and weekends building websites or personal coding projects to stay relevant and because we love technology. I’d rather be on the golf course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,409 Posted March 16 16 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said: You get the same thing in tech, there are some that assume we’re all spending our evenings and weekends building websites or personal coding projects to stay relevant and because we love technology. I’d rather be on the golf course. CW; wow, really, you mean you don't spend 24 hrs a day hunched over a laptop? Wouldn't have lasted long in my organisation. 😉😉🤣🤣🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,359 Posted March 16 11 minutes ago, shefcanary said: CW; wow, really, you mean you don't spend 24 hrs a day hunched over a laptop? Wouldn't have lasted long in my organisation. 😉😉🤣🤣🤣 In my late 20s I did, thankfully I’m high enough up the chain now that I get told to mind my work life balance above all else…I’m happy to oblige! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites