dylanisabaddog 5,007 Posted February 27 https://www.givemesport.com/greatest-english-goalkeepers-football-soccer-history/ Although Keelan was superb and very entertaining I think Woods is the best goalkeeper I've seen play for us 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,812 Posted February 27 Pickford ahead of Hart is an interesting one.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,679 Posted February 27 It does show the paucity of great English keepers over the years that Robinson makes the top 10 of all time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 275 Posted February 27 Personally I'd have james ahead of pickford and I thinks it's very close between clemence and seaman with recency bias playing a part but seems a fairly sensible listing. Keelan was very unfortunate to have Shilton clemence and corrigan ahead in a genuine golden era for England keeping 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A K Narey 112 Posted February 27 The thing that surprised me was that Woods had over 40 England caps. I would put him in my top 5 City keepers but he is some way behind Keelan, in my view. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,329 Posted February 27 (edited) Woods inspired so many local lads to take up goalkeeping, as I was one of them. In fact, there were so many keepers across the youth and school teams that I ended up playing outfield, basically the oldest were being picked as they were tallest. That milk cup final save was better than Banks vs Brazil, too. *ahem* Jossy's Giants on tv just popped into my head thinking back to school teams. Anyone remember that from around mid 80s-ish? haha. Edited February 27 by Google Bot 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,019 Posted February 27 Always thought Nigel Martyn gets missed a little bit in these discussions simply as a peak Seaman was so good. And Tim Flowers suffered a lot due to him too. To be fair to Pickford, he's had moments of weakness in an Everton shirt and he's not really let England down - unlike Hart who did have a couple of high-profile schnitzers in him. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splendidrush 700 Posted February 27 Apart from Banks and Shilton the rest are much of a muchness... surprised Alex Stepney didn't get a mention and Gordon West was a better 'keeper than Bonetti, if he'd gone to Mexico we would have made the final..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barham Blitz 664 Posted February 27 It certainly shows how long Shilton kept the top spot for. And Banks before him. We basically only had two goalkeepers for the national side for over 30 years - the period of indecision with Clemence aside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,019 Posted February 27 31 minutes ago, Barham Blitz said: It certainly shows how long Shilton kept the top spot for. And Banks before him. We basically only had two goalkeepers for the national side for over 30 years - the period of indecision with Clemence aside. And Clemence was a splendid keeper in his own right. If a country had Shilton and Clemence as their goalies, they were very well set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,407 Posted February 27 10 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Pickford ahead of Hart is an interesting one.. Is it? Hart was woeful. Pickford is the much better of the two ( which isn't really saying much, JP doesn't inspire me either ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheva 124 Posted February 28 Without doubt I would say Chris Woods has been Norwich City’s best goalkeeper and I would put him slightly higher in the all England list. Kevin Keelan was a natural talent and very flamboyant at times, similar to Peter Bonetti of Chelsea. The modern goalkeeper has much better ball control and passing, I think the likes of Peter Shilton and maybe Gordon Banks might have struggled in this department. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBaldOne66 700 Posted February 28 Where was Robert Green on the list? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,019 Posted February 28 18 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Pickford ahead of Hart is an interesting one.. Absolute no-brainer, at least in an England shirt. Hart's performance at Euro 2016 should be enough to end that discussion. Both are goalies that can be a bit wired up and jumpy, but at international level Pickford's better at channelling it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 519 Posted February 28 9 hours ago, TheGunnShow said: And Clemence was a splendid keeper in his own right. If a country had Shilton and Clemence as their goalies, they were very well set. Interesting, I thought it was ridiculous when Clemence was mentioned in the same breath as Shilton, Shilton was the best keeper of that generation. It would be interesting to see modern metrics applied to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,209 Posted February 28 9 minutes ago, Newtopia said: Interesting, I thought it was ridiculous when Clemence was mentioned in the same breath as Shilton, Shilton was the best keeper of that generation. It would be interesting to see modern metrics applied to them. I thought that and could never understand why Ron Greenwood alternated them in the England team. Then I saw Clemence live for Spurs (perhaps against City) and realised why. His every move had composure and charisma (if you can use that word in goalkeeping terms) and he was sheer class. Never again are we likely to have two such outstanding 'keepers in the England squad, and I would place him above Seaman in that list. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,019 Posted February 28 59 minutes ago, Newtopia said: Interesting, I thought it was ridiculous when Clemence was mentioned in the same breath as Shilton, Shilton was the best keeper of that generation. It would be interesting to see modern metrics applied to them. Dunno, Clemence still played for close to 15 years for that juggernaut of a Liverpool team. I do agree that Shilton was better, but you don't spend the peak of your career at such a team unless you're of undoubted quality yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,509 Posted February 28 I'm sure there was a bit of national chauvinism involved, but in the 80s it was more or less universally agreed that English keepers were the best and the foreign ones were a bit of a joke. Now all the top clubs here have a foreign keeper and England's best keeper plays for Everton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul101 94 Posted February 28 22 hours ago, Google Bot said: Woods inspired so many local lads to take up goalkeeping, as I was one of them. In fact, there were so many keepers across the youth and school teams that I ended up playing outfield, basically the oldest were being picked as they were tallest. That milk cup final save was better than Banks vs Brazil, too. *ahem* Jossy's Giants on tv just popped into my head thinking back to school teams. Anyone remember that from around mid 80s-ish? haha. football is just a type of science ? or something like that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul101 94 Posted February 28 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said: I'm sure there was a bit of national chauvinism involved, but in the 80s it was more or less universally agreed that English keepers were the best and the foreign ones were a bit of a joke. Now all the top clubs here have a foreign keeper and England's best keeper plays for Everton. the Brazil goalkeepers where tosh tbh Germany and Italy allways had strong keepers as well and our English keeper plays for Scotland Edited February 28 by Paul101 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
