Kenny McLean Most Under appreciated player of recent Times

[Nuff Said 5,147]

7 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

For the most part our midfield deptartment as a unit wasnt good enough last season..particularly the defensive aspect of that...of which McLean was very much part of.

Sara obviously showed flashes of brilliance from an attacking point of view , i.e Millwall, Blackburn away , hence his POTS award.

...but I suspect you knew all of this already

Try again

Judging by both what three sets of professional coaching staff and many posters on here think, it’s you who needs to try again. But I think most of us would rather you didn’t.

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,789]

Sargent...poodle...

[Thirsty Lizard 3,169]

2 minutes ago, Barham Blitz said:

Oh, this deserves it's own thread.  Assign each of the current squad their canine familiar ... 

Oh go on then - Angus Gunn dog

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,789]

3 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

Judging by both what three sets of professional coaching staff and many posters on here think, it’s you who needs to try again. But I think most of us would rather you didn’t.

..go on then...your thoughts on last season's midfield?

If you have any of your own, without pandering like a sheep?

This should be interesting (or probably not)

Edited August 23, 2023 by GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary

[TheGunnShow 5,953]

17 minutes ago, Crafty Canary said:

If Kenny was a dog would he be a pointer?

Onel would be a boxer, right?

[hogesar 9,705]

48 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

...yet you wont admit to McLean being poor as part of a poor midfield for the most part of last season prior to his injury?

  ..as if him having remiained fit wouldve got us into the playoffs??

..it was injuries to our central defence that did for us...and our failure to address the central defensive mid situation all season. We no less needed one in January when it became clear Hayden wasnt going to be fitcall season than we did at the start of the season. We didnt address it.

...didnt think it would be long to reach for the XG...bore off

I can see why you would tell me to bore off with things like stats and facts because the only way you're winning this argument is with your imagination.

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,789]

6 minutes ago, hogesar said:

I can see why you would tell me to bore off with things like stats and facts because the only way you're winning this argument is with your imagination.

The argument that our midfield wasnt good enough last season, and that he wasnt a good enough component within it (particularly as a defensive midfielder)?

The evidence was there to see...and my concerns for last season still remain the case for this ...and infact now we're playing a 442 as opposed to a 433, maybe even moreso.

We will be good enough to beat middle/bottom half teams by deploying McLean in this position,the better teams in this league however will expose and punish this.

Will that cost us a playoff place? We'll see

..I would still very much like us to sign a more specialist CDM, stronger in the tackle and breaking up play, for such opponents and situations in games

[hogesar 9,705]

12 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

The argument that our midfield wasnt good enough last season, and that he wasnt a good enough component within it (particularly as a defensive midfielder)?

The evidence was there to see...and my concerns for last season still remain the case for this ...and infact now we're playing a 442 as opposed to a 433, maybe even moreso.

We will be good enough to beat middle/bottom half teams by deploying McLean in this position,the better teams in this league however will expose and punish this.

Will that cost us a playoff place? We'll see

..I would still very much like us to sign a more specialist CDM, stronger in the tackle and breaking up play, for such opponents and situations in games

If you paid the slightest attention to how we play and Wagners setup then you'd realise a specialist CDM wouldn't even get a place in the starting 11, unless of course he was willing to change the way he sets us up for one player.

We've already taken one point against the league title favourites in Southampton,  away from home, and but for 2 penalties would have been all three points. So let's see,  eh.

Millwall were also good odds for top 6 by the way.

[Nuff Said 5,147]

52 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

..go on then...your thoughts on last season's midfield?

If you have any of your own, without pandering like a sheep?

This should be interesting (or probably not)

I don’t have many options, it appears that if I agree with others, I’ll be pandering like a sheep. Although I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a sheep pandering, how does that work?

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,789]

3 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

I don’t have many options, it appears that if I agree with others, I’ll be pandering like a sheep. Although I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a sheep pandering, how does that work?

...so you have absolutely no thoughts of your own regarding the functionality of our midfield last season?

None whatsover?...no?

.. .to pander.....look it up

[Google Bot 3,296]

1 minute ago, Nuff Said said:

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a sheep pandering, how does that work?

I believe the Panda goes in front?

[Barham Blitz 654]

1 minute ago, Google Bot said:

I believe the Panda goes in front?

No - the Panda goes behind.  It famously eats shoots and leaves as well.

[ZLF 274]

1 hour ago, BigFish said:

Although if you believe some on here those were the three worst players in the team, should have improved without them.

I do think all under performed their own usual levels last season and had many performances that would have seen other players dropped.

There is a difference between performing well and being part of the glue that holds the team together,  which with hindsight is probably why they kept their place in the starting xi last year. I think everyone was shocked at just how directionless we were without all three of them.  Probably another hangover from the disastrous 13 months of deano smith.  

The depth of leadership talent has been boosted, which should mean that any players whose performance levels fall can be rested and refreshed without concern. Hopefully this set of leaders can help develop the leadership skills that were abdicated to hanley, Gibson and Kenny 

Finally  Kenny is playing well and long may he continue to in the starting xi

[PurpleCanary 5,570]

Deadly with his head Sargent would plainly be a Springer Spaniel...

[Nuff Said 5,147]

13 minutes ago, Barham Blitz said:

No - the Panda goes behind.  It famously eats shoots and leaves as well.

Post of the day!

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,789]

2 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

Post of the day!

As suspected...nothing interesting to say or contribute

...despite telling others what to post , or to not post at all.

Baaaa

 

 

 

 

 

[Google Bot 3,296]

5 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

Baaaa

Careful, that Panda's still on the loose.

[Nuff Said 5,147]

18 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

As suspected...nothing interesting to say or contribute

...despite telling others what to post , or to not post at all.

Baaaa

 

 

 

 

 

This is me.

 

 

(Not rising)

 

Yours sheepishly. Baa.

(You’re welcome to post by the way, just don’t expect not to get called out if it’s rubbish)

Edited August 23, 2023 by Nuff Said

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,789]

Thankyou for your permission

You're welcome to enter the discussion on the performance of our midfield last season with any thoughts of your own....if you have any...and not just things you've seen other people type

 

 

Edited August 23, 2023 by GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary

[TheGunnShow 5,953]

56 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

Post of the day!

Why is it the "back" of the net when clearly it's the front side of it? If it were touching the back then either someone ballsed up the ground pegs or it went wide and rebounded back behind the goal! 😉

[hogesar 9,705]

16 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

Why is it the "back" of the net when clearly it's the front side of it? If it were touching the back then either someone ballsed up the ground pegs or it went wide and rebounded back behind the goal! 😉

Stop it.

On another note, the OP is clearly right because you can just see posters typing about McLean through gritted teeth...

[Nuff Said 5,147]

18 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

Why is it the "back" of the net when clearly it's the front side of it? If it were touching the back then either someone ballsed up the ground pegs or it went wide and rebounded back behind the goal! 😉

You’ll have to ask Alan.

[Robert N. LiM 4,426]

27 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

Why is it the "back" of the net when clearly it's the front side of it? If it were touching the back then either someone ballsed up the ground pegs or it went wide and rebounded back behind the goal! 😉

Because 'net' is a metonym for 'goal'.

You'll be asking in what ways his foot's like a traction engine next...

Edited August 23, 2023 by Robert N. LiM

[The Bristol Nest 517]

5 hours ago, hogesar said:

Yes, you're incredibly blinkered because you've said on numerous occasions that a team can't finish in the play offs with McLean as a main midfielder even though we've done it twice.

You are so consistently wrong on it I don't know where to start.

And if one win where we see less than half of the ball is evidence of us not missing McLean then perhaps our wins against Millwall x2, Birmingham x2, Hull, Coventry x2, Preston, Swansea, Stoke, Blackpool, Preston are all examples of how important he is to the side?

Maybe I should list every result with McLean in the side since he joined? 

Your bizarre desperation to be right about McLean requires you to constantly play this mental gymnastics to suit your over inflated ego, where you know better than Farke, Smith and now Wagner.

Yep. If we get promoted we have to ditch Kenny for De Bruyne.

[Robert N. LiM 4,426]

10 minutes ago, The Bristol Nest said:

Yep. If we get promoted we have to ditch Kenny for De Bruyne.

Any replacement has to be an upgrade or there's no point.

[Well b back 3,234]

Had certain members of our squad had exactly the same season as Kenny last year, they would have won POTS by a country mile.

[shefcanary 2,435]

6 hours ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

Sargent...poodle...

A giant poodle!

[Jersey Canary 143]

He’s been better since Wagner took over but up until then he’s been awful. No pace, can’t tackle, has no positional sense, doesn’t score or create but apart from that he’s great. 👍

Edited August 23, 2023 by Jersey Canary

[Number9 272]

Tbf he always apologises when he gives the ball away.

He's always apologising. 

[Worthy Nigelton 1,058]

On 22/08/2023 at 21:37, shefcanary said:

Kenny is fine for the Championship and will help get us promoted. BUT, and it is a very BIG BUT, we will never survive a season in the EPL if he is our main midfielder. That also has been proven, twice! 

Nailed it. Fine for the Champs in a good team but in an average team he isn't going to drag you over the line. Get rid.