Mullet 293 Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) I'm really sorry I have mentioned this too many times already but Mr H depresses me. This has been an incredible season considering where we had to pick ourselves up from. DF and his players have done an incredible job "BUT JH" is not an NCFC player in the championship let alone the premiership. He is warming a seat that someone else needs to be given. I don't like targeting a player but against Preston he came on when Pukki was rightly knackered and all he had to do was hold the ball up and play for time and he couldn't even do that. JH isn't a goal threat at this level anymore he has proven that and he can't even hold the ball to help us see a game out for 10 minutes. You needed to step up or step aside Mr H, you are the weakest link goodbye Edited April 6, 2021 by Mullet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coneys Knee 953 Posted April 5, 2021 Bit harsh, he’s not had much of a sniff to be fair through one reason or another. that is one thing I thought Jordan Rhodes did superbly. Holding up the ball late on and winning free kicks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,749 Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Mullet said: I'm really sorry I have mentioned this too many times already but Mr H depresses me. This has been an incredible season considering where we had to pick ourselves up from. DF and his players have done an incredible job "BUT JH" is not an NCFC player in the championship let alone the premiership. He is warming a seat that someone else needs to be given. I don't like targeting a player but against Preston he came on when Pukki was rightly knackered and all he had to do was hold the ball up and play for time and he couldn't even do that. JH isn't a goal threat at this level anymore he has proven that and he can't even hold the ball to help us see a game out for 10 minutes. You needed to step up or step aside Mr H, you are the weakest link goodbye Bit harsh to say he isnt a goal threat when he's invariably coming on for the last 2 mins of a game ...when he was deputising for Pukki whilst he was out injured...before he himself got injured at Barnsley in the cup, he was looking ok ..and had scored a couple of goals. The header he scored vs bristol city showed that he can offer a 'different' type of goal threat , scoring a type of goal which pukki wouldnt get which would require a different kind of service .i.e crosses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted April 5, 2021 Three goals in 538 minutes this season. That's marginally better than one-in-two when you spread those minutes over 90-minute games. The above stat doesn't hold much weight admittedly as it's a small sample size, but the fact it's such a small sample size is why it's tough to judge him on so few minutes. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted April 5, 2021 50 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Three goals in 538 minutes this season. That's marginally better than one-in-two when you spread those minutes over 90-minute games. The above stat doesn't hold much weight admittedly as it's a small sample size, but the fact it's such a small sample size is why it's tough to judge him on so few minutes. Which actually reads well in his favour....given that most would accept that a player needs a bit of time to get into his groove. Would most people have taken a 1 goal in 2 games striker as back up to Pukki.....I think so. That's what we have got...on limited game time, the boy has done the job asked of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said: Which actually reads well in his favour....given that most would accept that a player needs a bit of time to get into his groove. Agreed, and that was what I was trying to get at when I said "it's tough to judge him on so few minutes", although obviously that comment was rather cryptic and could be interpreted in different ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Agreed, and that was what I was trying to get at when I said "it's tough to judge him on so few minutes", although obviously that comment was rather cryptic and could be interpreted in different ways. No worries, I was backing up what you wrote... I think he's done OK, always busy and must be a pain the backside for CBs after chasing Pukki around for most of the game , to then have to spend the last 5/10 mins wrestling with JH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 435 Posted April 5, 2021 We are seriously short of PL quality strikers ahead of next season. Idah may be adequate for the fourth spot, but that leaves Pukki + two others required. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Mullet said: I'm really sorry I have mentioned this too many times already but Mr H depresses me. Well, not clearly not so sorry that you don't still feel the need to mention it yet again. But I do feel sorry that despite our very comfortable postion at the top of the league you still find yourself slumped in despair by the unnameable one's place in the squad. Since others have already responded by pointing out the contributions that "JH" has actually made, I will just make one observation. One of the persistent criticisms of Farke voiced on this site over the past couple of years is that Farke had no plan B if our default passing game is failing. Surely "JH" provides precisely the focal point of a genuine plan B if it is required. His lack of playing time is simply a factor of the overwhelming success of plan A this season. To have a second striker who has had so little playing time but remained a very positive and well-loved figure in the dressing room is something that shouldn't be overlooked either. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coneys Knee 953 Posted April 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, unique said: We are seriously short of PL quality strikers ahead of next season. Idah may be adequate for the fourth spot, but that leaves Pukki + two others required. Idah needs regular football next year. Championship loan I reckon 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, horsefly said: Well, not clearly not so sorry that you don't still feel the need to mention it yet again. But I do feel sorry that despite our very comfortable postion at the top of the league you still find yourself slumped in despair by the unnameable one's place in the squad. Since others have already responded by pointing out the contributions that "JH" has actually made, I will just make one observation. One of the persistent criticisms of Farke voiced on this site over the past couple of years is that Farke had no plan B if our default passing game is failing. Surely "JH" provides precisely the focal point of a genuine plan B if it is required. His lack of playing time is simply a factor of the overwhelming success of plan A this season. To have a second striker who has had so little playing time but remained a very positive and well-loved figure in the dressing room is something that shouldn't be overlooked either. The plan B of having a striker who can get onto crosses (we don't play that way ever) and the plan B which involves holding the ball up, high up the pitch late in games, which he isn't capable of doing. I would personally give him away on a free to Ipswich Edited April 5, 2021 by Mullet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted April 5, 2021 Just now, Mullet said: The plan B of having a striker who can get onto crosses (we don't play that way ever) and the plan B which involves holding the ball up, high up the pitch late in games, which he isn't capable of doing. I would personally give away on a free to Ipswich Could you give yourself away on a free to Ipswich? 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted April 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said: Could you give yourself away on a free to Ipswich? I'm 51 years old. My back has gone, both ankles are shot and I'm as blind as a bat. I couldn't do any worse could I 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted April 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mullet said: I'm 51 years old. My back has gone, both ankles are shot and I'm as blind as a bat. I couldn't do any worse could I You'd probably still get in the squad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted April 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said: The plan B of having a striker who can get onto crosses (we don't play that way ever) Errm! so you're basically saying we only have a plan A and no potential plan B. Seems I must have dreamt the fanastic headed goal that JH scored. Hang on! what's Bobby Ewing doing in my shower??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted April 5, 2021 I have nothing personal against JH. I've come on this forum and got stuff wrong in the past about Soto getting straight in the 1st team and Farke out after the Derby County loss. I admit when I'm wrong which is quite often. Jordan Hugill will not be here in August that is a fact Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted April 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mullet said: Jordan Hugill will not be here in August that is a fact You are Mystic Meg and I claim my £10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted April 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, horsefly said: Errm! so you're basically saying we only have a plan A and no potential plan B. Seems I must have dreamt the fanastic headed goal that JH scored. Hang on! what's Bobby Ewing doing in my shower??? One headed goal in a season doesn't make a plan B. I assume Bobby is picking up the soap waiting for you. 🤠😵 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted April 5, 2021 Just now, Mullet said: One headed goal in a season doesn't make a plan B. I assume Bobby is picking up the soap waiting for you. 🤠😵 Oh dear! no need to turn a little bit of fun into homophobic abuse. Best not to start a thread like this if that's your intention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,657 Posted April 5, 2021 It’s extremely harsh to single out Hugill - he’s done little wrong and not had enough game time to do much ‘right’....he’s often come on just for the last 5-10 minutes to give Teemu a rest and see the game out. That’s not his fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 501 Posted April 5, 2021 The fact is he’s not fitted into NCFC’ style of play and most definitely is not a Premiership footballer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,657 Posted April 5, 2021 Just now, daly said: The fact is he’s not fitted into NCFC’ style of play and most definitely is not a Premiership footballer You do know the ‘Premiership’ is what they call it in rugby and the SPL, don’t you? In England we have the Premier League. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted April 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mullet said: I have nothing personal against JH. I've come on this forum and got stuff wrong in the past about Soto getting straight in the 1st team and Farke out after the Derby County loss. I admit when I'm wrong which is quite often. Jordan Hugill will not be here in August that is a fact That's definitely not a fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted April 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, horsefly said: Oh dear! no need to turn a little bit of fun into homophobic abuse. Best not to start a thread like this if that's your intention. Just having a bit of fun horsefly. My best friend is gay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: It’s extremely harsh to single out Hugill - he’s done little wrong and not had enough game time to do much ‘right’....he’s often come on just for the last 5-10 minutes to give Teemu a rest and see the game out. That’s not his fault. Exactly! Plan A has been so successful we have not needed to resort to plan B. However when we did play to Hugill's strength he scored with a superb header. Frankly I trust Farke to know exactly what role he foresees for Hugill, and it doesn't stretch the imagination too far to contemplate a role for him coming on late as balls are lofted into the box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, daly said: The fact is he’s not fitted into NCFC’ style of play and most definitely is not a Premiership footballer I love you Daly, you and me are on the same page Edited April 5, 2021 by Mullet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 855 Posted April 5, 2021 29 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said: You'd probably still get in the squad! Agent Mullet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted April 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mullet said: Just having a bit of fun horsefly. My best friend is gay Ok, but best to avoid jokes like this given City's very prominent views on equality. I get the feeling it wouldn't make too many of the "Proud Canaries" laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K Lo 224 Posted April 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Mullet said: I'm really sorry I have mentioned this too many times already but Mr H depresses me. You're clearly not sorry or you wouldn't have actually mentioned it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,606 Posted April 5, 2021 If we can add another striker I've got no problem with JH as a 3rd choice striker next season. I wouldn't want him as our backup as I don't think his style of player and ability allow him to ever put any real pressure on Pukki but as an option off the bench, we'd struggle to get much better without shelling out quite a bit of cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites