New Tory Leader

[Wings of a Sparrow 1,425]

Found it. Don't know anything about @ MI6rogue account...

[BigFish 1,988]

Those waiting for the 54 MPs needed to trigger a VONC are ignoring just how much the Conservative Party has changed over the last decade. Old style Conservatives considered the needs of the country aligned perfectly with that of the Conservative Party. In that way they could easily give outright loyalty to the Party. The leader was dispensible, any time they could be seen to be damaging the party they could be defenestrated and another leader rolled in.

Now there has always been outbreaks of right wing popularism such as the National Front, BNP, Referendum Party, UKIP and Brexit Party. These are much more ideological with primary loyakties to other ideas be it racism, xenophobia or Brexit. This was a minority interest amongst Tories, limited to what John Major called the "bastards". The bastards would make common cause with anyone to get what they wanted e.g. Brexit. To "Get Brexit Done" following the referendum they needed to suck in new members and voters from amongst the right wing popularists. Johnson used this as a power base to get him the leadership that he was totally unsuitable for. He then expelled the old style Conservatives and promoted both bastards and supplicant MPs.

What this means is that Johnson has a symbiotic relationship with his MPs and the wider Party. He is not dispensible, they stand together or fall together. Even if there was a VONC he would probably win it. Things would need to get much worse before he was at risk. He is not going anywhere, anytime soon.

[horsefly 4,310]

Why are so many Tory MPs and ministers prepared to make themselves look like utter tw*ats attempting to defend a dead tw*at walking? Conor Burns seems to have perfected the art of ridding himself of any hint of shame in saying the most craven, pathetic and ridiculous excuses. I can only assume he thinks the next leader will recognise there is no level of obsequious grovelling that he won't stoop to in order to defend his boss.

 

[horsefly 4,310]

7 minutes ago, BigFish said:

What this means is that Johnson has a symbiotic relationship with his MPs and the wider Party. He is not dispensible, they stand together or fall together. Even if there was a VONC he would probably win it. Things would need to get much worse before he was at risk. He is not going anywhere, anytime soon.

I agree that he would in all likelihood win a VONC (so did May btw), however, I remain to be convinced that he has the symbiotic relationship with his MPs and the wider party. The ERG used him as a useful fool to get Brexit "done", but I don't think any of them think of him at all as their kind of Tory. Hence Bridgen's public declaration of no confidence, and Steve Baker's recent damning comments. The ERG consider themselves to be traditional "principled" free market Tories, and Johnson is well known to be a principle free shallow populist. A populist who is now so unpopular with the voting public is of little use to the mercenaries that populate the Tory benches. I expect you're right that he won't be going anytime soon; It's to the advantage of the longer term prospects of his party that it lets him take as much of the flak for the upcoming cost of living crisis. What I have little doubt about is that he will be junked at some point before the next election. A populist leading a seriously divided party has lost the only thing that makes his leadership tenable.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

And the DUP have just dumped a problem on his lap. According to him, there are/were no border checks for NI. Now they have stopped those things that didn't exist.

[KernowCanary 214]

All we hear now….

- Covid

- Partygate

- Ukraine

- Energy prices.

This scummy MSM are real experts at raising the spirits aren’t they?, and it’s all the Tories fault. Well, it’s not their fault Covid came here, neither is Ukraine, but they should have locked down earlier and Boris thought it would just go away at first.

Edited February 3, 2022 by KernowCanary

[horsefly 4,310]

2 hours ago, KernowCanary said:

My friend’s grandmother was dying in a care home and nobody could see her, apart from a nominated family member when she was dying.

Nine months she never seen her for, which was from the last time she saw her and to the day she died, so never got to see her for that one last time. All she had after that last visit, was updates as text messages from a carer at the home on how she was doing.

All this happened while she later died and Boris and his chums were having boozy parties at No.10.

Utterly disgraceful and he needs to realise just what was going on in that head of his, that made him think he was going to get away with it.

Loud music from windows for a start, not exactly what you would call discreet.

According to Tory bigot Andrew Rosindell, your friend should be comforted by the "fact" that Boris's offences amount to nothing more than the equivalent of a parking fine:

 

[KernowCanary 214]

2 minutes ago, horsefly said:

According to Tory bigot Andrew Rosindell, your friend should be comforted by the "fact" that Boris's offences amount to nothing more than the equivalent of a parking fine:

 

If only there was an “angry” reaction on here!!.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

1 hour ago, KernowCanary said:

If only there was an “angry” reaction on here!!.

There have been several angry posts and I doubt they will diminish while the clown is still PM.

If we cannot trust him, then how can we be sure he is saying the right things in Kiev, Belfast, Washington etc. We had enough of Blair lying and Cameron saying yes to everything and now Boris lying just to get away from a meeting or the cameras.

[Herman 9,817]

7 hours ago, Wings of a Sparrow said:

Found it. Don't know anything about @ MI6rogue account...

 

Christopher Hope, who is a Boris shill at the telegraph, is now saying a similar thing. 

 

Edited February 3, 2022 by Herman

[How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,189]

Following the awful murder of David Amess, the by election for Southend West is today

Most of the larger parties have not stood, but there is a seriously impressive collection of racists, right wing nutters, little Englanders and freaks who have gone up against the Tory candidate 

Thankfully, the Tory is nailed on to win

[Barry Brockes 147]

Without knowing the machinations of the Vote Of No Confidence process but bearing in mind the apparent struggle to get to 54 letters is there actually any point in pursuing it by those who want him removed? Isn't Johnson likely to have a landslide victory by 305 votes to 54 or thereabouts and thus strengthen his position?

[Herman 9,817]

Even Johnson's minister for culture wars has quit. A line has been crossed. 😲

[PurpleCanary 5,578]

1 hour ago, Barry Brockes said:

Without knowing the machinations of the Vote Of No Confidence process but bearing in mind the apparent struggle to get to 54 letters is there actually any point in pursuing it by those who want him removed? Isn't Johnson likely to have a landslide victory by 305 votes to 54 or thereabouts and thus strengthen his position?

Barry, the anti-Johnson vote would be significantly higher than  the 54 or whatever, and would weaken him. And Labour would not want him to be defeated and forced to step down!

[dylanisabaddog 4,965]

[PurpleCanary 5,578]

28 minutes ago, Herman said:

Even Johnson's minister for culture wars has quit. A line has been crossed. 😲

It bears repeating that apparently in a PMQ practice session Johnson used the Savile line, or said he wanted to, and was told very firmly not to. That it was a really bad idea. But then when it came to the real thing he went ahead. And even his 'apology' today smacks of a sixth-form debating society, saying ''a lot of people have got very hot under the collar.''

[Well b back 3,259]

18 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

It bears repeating that apparently in a PMQ practice session Johnson used the Savile line, or said he wanted to, and was told very firmly not to. That it was a really bad idea. But then when it came to the real thing he went ahead. And even his 'apology' today smacks of a sixth-form debating society, saying ''a lot of people have got very hot under the collar.''

The clowns head of policy has resigned because of the Jimmy Saville comment ( see link ). His world is slowly falling apart. I see the Chancellor in his speech in the questions has said ‘ ask the PM it’s nothing I would have said ‘. That’s a telling response.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60250036

Edited February 3, 2022 by Well b back

[ricardo 7,395]

56 minutes ago, Herman said:

Even Johnson's minister for culture wars has quit. A line has been crossed. 😲

Faking his own death is probably the best move now.

[Van wink 2,994]

7 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Faking his own death is probably the best move now.

Reggie Perrin

[Herman 9,817]

12 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Faking his own death is probably the best move now.

 

[PurpleCanary 5,578]

23 minutes ago, Van wink said:

Reggie Perrin

There is political precedent in the bizarre case of John Stonehouse. Didn’t end well…🤓

[ricardo 7,395]

13 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

There is political precedent in the bizarre case of John Stonehouse. Didn’t end well…🤓

The sea is too cold this time of year.

[Van wink 2,994]

13 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

There is political precedent in the bizarre case of John Stonehouse. Didn’t end well…🤓

Yes indeed

[KernowCanary 214]

29 minutes ago, Herman said:

 

Or a U-boat to Argentina……

[Van wink 2,994]

1 minute ago, ricardo said:

The sea is too cold this time of year.

When he flies off to Miami wearing only his underpants the plot will thicken

[ricardo 7,395]

1 minute ago, KernowCanary said:

Or a U-boat to Argentina……

Adolph took his dog with him apparently.

I wonder if Boris will take Larry.

[Well b back 3,259]

Good job he bought his wallpaper last year, inflation currently may have meant he could not proceed as to expensive

[Well b back 3,259]

Breaking News

Doyle the clowns director of communications has just resigned. Is the clown getting rid of them or is he sunk ?

[Herman 9,817]

1 minute ago, Well b back said:

Breaking News

Doyle the clowns director of communications has just resigned. Is the clown getting rid of them or is he sunk ?

I think they're all getting on the U-boat to Argentina as well. The Met are closing in.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

18 minutes ago, ricardo said:

The sea is too cold this time of year.

The ladies open water swimming group The Blue **** were down at Porthtowan this morning. Even my dog wouldn't go near it today.