CANARYKING 707 Posted January 14, 2020 Anybody else think this has already started Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Since 1980 27 Posted January 14, 2020 In Webber and farke I trust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,167 Posted January 14, 2020 I think both eventualities are being prepared for, they are not stupid. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chumino 57 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, CANARYKING said: Anybody else think this has already started Of course. It started last summer. Edited January 14, 2020 by Chumino + Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted January 14, 2020 Apparently we started selling Lewis in 2017 after Maddison and Josh. So it could all take a while... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,777 Posted January 14, 2020 Oi've got a good idea, let's never sell any players, ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, wcorkcanary said: Oi've got a good idea, let's never sell any players, ever. Can't we even sell Toddwell? Or Krul.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nono 19 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) Of course it has already started, they would be nuts not to consider it. But that's completely different to throwing in the towel, and for me the team, manager, and fans who don't have an axe to grind, haven't given up yet. If we don't beat Bournemouth, then that obviously changes. But the fat lady has not got on stage yet. Edited January 14, 2020 by Nono 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted January 14, 2020 I would hope so, that’s the least I’d expect of decent club management. As for player sales it’s pretty much a given that there will be changes through players not wanting to stay or club wanting them out, players not being good enough to push us onto the next stage or players who just get an offer which can’t be turned down. I would like to see a few more young players in this window or already targeted for a summer move to replace the likes of Tettey, Amadou, Duda, Hanley, Steipermann, Lietner, Trybull. No doubt we could lose two or three youngsters too, but it’s imperative to build on our foundations, I hope we don’t sign too many like Rupp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) Every player has always had their price. Edited January 14, 2020 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Indy said: I would hope so, that’s the least I’d expect of decent club management. As for player sales it’s pretty much a given that there will be changes through players not wanting to stay or club wanting them out, players not being good enough to push us onto the next stage or players who just get an offer which can’t be turned down. I would like to see a few more young players in this window or already targeted for a summer move to replace the likes of Tettey, Amadou, Duda, Hanley, Steipermann, Lietner, Trybull. No doubt we could lose two or three youngsters too, but it’s imperative to build on our foundations, I hope we don’t sign too many like Rupp. Don't see any reason why we'd need to lose Trybull, he's a handy squad player and in the second tier can play a couple of roles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Edwards 2,424 Posted January 14, 2020 Contingency planning for relegation? No ambition. Smacks of that “Top 26” nonsense. We should be planning for next season in the Premier League and failure to do so will see us relegated next year if we’re not relegated this year. I’ll say it again, no ambition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 6,144 Posted January 14, 2020 I think plans will have been in place for a good year now in terms of the players who Daniel Farke and Stuart Webber think will move on, which need changing. If we go down I expect two or three sales but we will keep the nucleus of the team plus we have youngsters loaned out ready to be introduced to the first team. Presumably the likes of Rupp will give the team a mature / old head. I trust DF and SW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chumino 57 Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, sonyc said: I think plans will have been in place for a good year now in terms of the players who Daniel Farke and Stuart Webber think will move on, which need changing. If we go down I expect two or three sales but we will keep the nucleus of the team plus we have youngsters loaned out ready to be introduced to the first team. Presumably the likes of Rupp will give the team a mature / old head. I trust DF and SW. Who is the nucleus of the team? Who do think will be the 2 or 3 sales? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) Next season starting 11. Krull, Byram, Zimmermann, Godfrey, Lewis Vrancic, Thompson, McClean Buendia, Rupp, Hernandez Idah The sales of Aarons, Cantwell, Steipermann, Pukki, Lietner, Hanley not sure but I believe Tettey & Klose will be allowed to find other clubs if still in contract. Edited January 14, 2020 by Indy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 6,144 Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chumino said: Who is the nucleus of the team? Who do think will be the 2 or 3 sales? I don't know of course. I just imaginevit will come to a combination of player demands / requests and club expediency. I am worried we will lose Max Aarons and Todd Cantwell. I like Todd but feel we can replace. Plus Emi may wish to leave. As for the likes of Stiepermann, Leitner I am unsure. I reckon Krul, Byram, Lewis, Zimmermann, Hanley, Trybull, Teemu, Trybull and even Hernandez will still be here and hopefully Godfrey. Of course Rupp will be around. I suppose Teemu might hope for one last pay day in the PL. I am also worried that the clubs coming up to the Premier might come sniffing around the relegation carcass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 6,144 Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Indy said: Next season starting 11. Krull, Byram, Zimmermann, Godfrey, Lewis Vrancic, Thompson, McClean Buendia, Rupp, Hernandez Idah The sales of Aarons, Cantwell, Steipermann, Pukki, Lietner, Hanley not sure but I believe Tettey & Klose will be allowed to find other clubs if still in contract. I think our thoughts are quite aligned Indy. And I had forgotten about Mario and Kenny. I expect them to be about too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, sonyc said: I am also worried that the clubs coming up to the Premier might come sniffing around the relegation carcass. Of course they would, but our players are on long term contracts so they would have to put their money up to engage in any discussions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, sonyc said: I think our thoughts are quite aligned Indy. And I had forgotten about Mario and Kenny. I expect them to be about too. Yes just seen you’re response, pretty strong Championship starting point, given any sales will help to finance potential young replacements and not forgetting a few players on loan who might make that step up too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 6,144 Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Indy said: Yes just seen you’re response, pretty strong Championship starting point, given any sales will help to finance potential young replacements and not forgetting a few players on loan who might make that step up too. It is. But I actually want to see some new faces and changes next year. A sale will provide some buffer as will the parachute payment. I hope we bl**dy invest it next year though given wages will fall too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,167 Posted January 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, Indy said: Next season starting 11. Krull, Byram, Zimmermann, Godfrey, Lewis Vrancic, Thompson, McClean Buendia, Rupp, Hernandez Idah The sales of Aarons, Cantwell, Steipermann, Pukki, Lietner, Hanley not sure but I believe Tettey & Klose will be allowed to find other clubs if still in contract. Would be absolutely gobsmacked if we kept hold of Buendia if we went down, Indy - but I’d be delighted if we did keep him obviously! But we’re not going down, are we 😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted January 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: Would be absolutely gobsmacked if we kept hold of Buendia if we went down, Indy - but I’d be delighted if we did keep him obviously! But we’re not going down, are we 😉 Just have the feeling he’ll demand more than clubs will offer, so think that will be one surprise in the summer. Might lose lose him next January though......just hope more than expectation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chumino 57 Posted January 14, 2020 For clarity I don't want any of the following to happen but worse case can see... Arrons, Buendiu, Cantwell, Pukki and possibly Godfrey outbound along with Leitner, Hanley and Klose. Not sure if DF is going to be here either. That is a nucleus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 551 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) If we lose the majority of players as mentioned above we can look forward to years of mid table mediocrity in The Championship.Think it’s disgusting how this BOD have learnt absolutely nothing from previous promotions and know that season tickets will sell out whatever league we are in Edited January 14, 2020 by daly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 6,144 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Chumino said: For clarity I don't want any of the following to happen but worse case can see... Arrons, Buendiu, Cantwell, Pukki and possibly Godfrey outbound along with Leitner, Hanley and Klose. Not sure if DF is going to be here either. That is a nucleus. We will struggle losing that many Chumino. 3 from your first named 5 might be survivable. Replacing Teemu will be very difficult. Scoring goals gets you out of the Championship. Always had been. If he went we would need someone like Gayle, Mitrovic...proven at that level. Ps. I posted a thread earlier about whether players might ask to leave upon relegation. My son is convinced we will lose the lot! Edited January 14, 2020 by sonyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hucks6 186 Posted January 14, 2020 Don’t forget Jordan Roades incoming otbc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted January 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hucks6 said: Don’t forget Jordan Roades incoming otbc Rather see Idah playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,174 Posted January 14, 2020 The Club will have to Spend a lot of money if they sell Cantwell , Aarons ,Lewis , Godfrey , Pukki If they kept that Money the Tax bill would Be Massive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,001 Posted January 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, norfolkngood said: The Club will have to Spend a lot of money if they sell Cantwell , Aarons ,Lewis , Godfrey , Pukki If they kept that Money the Tax bill would Be Massive I'm not a tax expert but wouldn't it make sense to sell one of them this tax year whilst we have an operating debt? Don't think we will lose Lewis but you can add Buendia to the list. There are some serious assets there and I hope we use it well to buy our way out of the Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Capt. Pants said: I'm not a tax expert but wouldn't it make sense to sell one of them this tax year whilst we have an operating debt? Don't think we will lose Lewis but you can add Buendia to the list. There are some serious assets there and I hope we use it well to buy our way out of the Championship. I don’t think we will due to tv money, we’ll probably have a hefty profit. Post financial year end would be the best time to sell, or invest any profit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites