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On 11/12/2019 at 12:47, PurpleCanary said:

 

 

 

 

 

‘So, daddy, what did YOU do in the Great Anti-Delia War?’
 

 

‘Well now, daughter of mine, I did my bit. I spent 55 minutes of my life trying to

 

convince the Norwich City directors not to re-appoint Bryan Gunn."

"And how did that work out, father of mine?"

"Five days later they re-appointed Bryan Gunn."

"Was that the day you shouted a lot, threw your Canary bobble hat at the dog and mummy had to hide the key to the drinks cabinet?"

"My, what an observant child you are, to be sure."

"And this meeting at St Andrew’s Hall everyone seems to have gone to?"

"Your dear mother said it would be bad for my state of mind and that if

 

instead I accompanied here to a soothing concert of classical music at

 

the cathedral she might make available again the key to the drinks cabinet,

 

plus other personal benefits of a nocturnal nature."

"What did she mean by ‘other personal benefits of a nocturnal nature’, daddy?"

"That is quite enough questions for one day. Up the wooden hill for you and mother will be along to read you a bedtime story."

"Please can I have ‘'The Lying Witch and the Boardroom'?"

"Far too adult. How about 'Geoffrey and the Magic Wallet'?"

"But I don't understand the ending!"

"No-one does, my child. That's why it’s so popular."

 

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Some time and a staggeringly sharp politico-moral decline later…

 

 

 

‘So daddy, what did YOU do in the Great Anti-Brexit War?’

 

 

 

‘Well now, daughter of mine, I did my bit. I frequently commented in The Guardian and the Financial Times, not to mention on the even more widely influential opinion-forming pink ‘un message-board, on the dangerous stupidity of Brexit and how any sane person concerned about the economic wellbeing of the United Kingdom had it as their moral duty to vote Remain. I also used Only The Little People Pay Taxes, the house magazine of the global elite, and my much-followed column - Are You Sure Your Island Is Far Enough Offshore? - to press home the same argument.’

 

‘And how did that work out, father?’

 

‘The British people voted Leave by a clear majority.’

 

‘Oh dear!  Was that the night mummy was wearing a Union-Jack tee-shirt and ran round the living-room spilling her drink and punching the air, shouting ‘’I could kiss Farage!’’, ‘’Up yours Delors!’’ and ‘’Eat dirt, Merkel!’’? And you spent the next two weeks sleeping in the loft?’

 

‘Still so very observant! There was a suspicion of some dry-rot up there I needed to examine. But I can assure you I did not give up, daughter of mine. I have carried on the fight to sway opinion in the forthcoming general election to stop Boris Johnson and his madcap Hard Brexit plan. I redoubled my efforts, confident that I could persuade voters, the good people of this wonderful country, that the man was lying charlatan who would ruin their lives.’

 

‘More comments and more columns?’

 

‘Absolutely, my child.’

 

‘And how has that worked out, father dear? Doing the same thing hoping for a different result - isn’t that a definition of something or other?’
 

 

‘We will know tomorrow night, but I am sure this time the message has got through. Voters cannot be so criminally cretinous as to make the same mistake twice. It would be an act of monumental self-harm. This time I will be the one dancing joyfully round the room.’

‘Only In a restrained, English kind of way, I hope, father dear. But just in case, just in case, you understand, I bought you this Union Jack tee-shirt to wear and a CD of Vera Lynn singing patriotic songs, and I have put a supply of alcohol in the medicine cabinet, plus the number of the Samaritans’ emergency helpline, on the very slight off-chance the result isn’t quite what you expect, and you go into shock. Like you did on Referendum Night, if you remember.’

 

‘Very thoughtful of you, and probably very wise…’

 

 

 

A few minutes ago:

’Daughter of mine, where is your father?’

’Well, mother dear, he finished all the alcohol  I left in the medicine cabinet, and tried to dial the Samaritans, but kept getting the Speaking Clock. Now he is lying on the lawn and shouting rather rude words at the moon.’

‘Poor man. Not quite the kind of nocturnal activity he’s been hoping for.’

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Politics, religion and football.......(oh and love)......they all give us tears, happiness and mood swings.....such is the gift of life, which is more precious than the first two.....

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There really needs to be an effort from all quarters to find common ground and move on. The Brexit issue has been fundamentally settled tonight, that’s one less thing to divide us. Hopefully we can spend the next 5 years mending some fences and working together to improve the country for the majority.

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The morons are those Corbynistas who seriously thought that the British people would elect a Marxist led government. 
How long before there is a night of the long knives for the Momentum redshirts? The centrist socialists will soon purge the party of this cancerous tumour.

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The result is clear. The voting public has spoken.

A major reset for Labour to regain the confidence of the electorate is required apparently, so goodbye Mr. Corbin. 

If getting Brexit uncertainty resolved was the issue, it will be interesting to see how patient the electorate will be.

Nigel Farage's comment was:  "We are going to get something called Brexit. But does it get Brexit done? No. We are looking at three years of agonising negotiations. It is not really Brexit" 

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4 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said:

There really needs to be an effort from all quarters to find common ground and move on. The Brexit issue has been fundamentally settled tonight, that’s one less thing to divide us. Hopefully we can spend the next 5 years mending some fences and working together to improve the country for the majority.

Sounds good in theory (and when you say it quickly), but IMO is totally unrealistic and plain wrong in practice.

Firstly the Brexit issue is still miles away from being settled - unless the exit poll is completely wrong, which is highly unlikely, then it looks settled that we will leave the EU on 31st Jan 2019.

Maybe with the liar's deal, maybe with Theresa May's deal or something in-between. All are bad deals, just with different gradations of how bad but we will leave with one of them, or maybe we will leave with no deal at all as the liar originally intended.

Whichever flavour we end up with we will be out on 31st Jan 2019 but as been pointed out many times before, leaving was the easy bit. The tricky bit is yet to come and tonight has settled absolutely nothing about what our future relationship with Europe is, or isn't, going to be. The idea that the liar will negotiate a trade deal with the EU in 11 months is for the birds, so the idea that the uncertainly and disunity is going to change any time soon is also for the birds.

Secondly this election isn't just about Brexit, in fact for many Brexit was a minor issue. There are many other divisions in this country which are going to be deepened by this result - independence for Scotland and re-unification of Ireland are receiving a massive boost and a Johnson hard right government offers absolutely nothing to counter balance this - they will be gone, possibly before the next general election.

Climate change the same, the notion that the liar can mend any fences with anybody concerned about climate change or even more modest concerns about the environment is frankly laughable. Austerity same again - there can be no disputing that the liar has won a victory in terms of seats but that is the result of our bizarre electoral system which means that a party winning somewhere in the low 40s% of votes wins 55-60% of the seats whilst the other let's say 54-58% of voters end up with 43/45% of the seats.

Now that's great if you are part of the winning 40/45% of the population but it's definitely not a recipe for mending fences and working together, especially when the winning party is at one extreme of the political spectrum and offers absolutely nothing to the other 55/60%.

The result may well be decisive in Parliamentary terms but it will deepen and re-inforce divisions in the country.

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6 hours ago, Canary Wundaboy said:

There really needs to be an effort from all quarters to find common ground and move on. The Brexit issue has been fundamentally settled tonight, that’s one less thing to divide us. Hopefully we can spend the next 5 years mending some fences and working together to improve the country for the majority.

People saw a little kid lying on coats in a hospital. They saw a PM not giving a ****. And they gave him an overwhelming mandate to carry on. 

I'm sorry, I have no common ground with these people. 

One good thing to come out of this is that there are no more scapegoats. Can't blame the EU, Remainers, the Irish, Labour etc. Anything good or bad will be entirely down to the people that voted for it. 

Good luck to the good guys, not sure what fresh hell awaits us but I am sure we'll be back one day. 

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11 minutes ago, Herman said:

People saw a little kid lying on coats in a hospital. They saw a PM not giving a ****. And they gave him an overwhelming mandate to carry on. 

I'm sorry, I have no common ground with these people. 

One good thing to come out of this is that there are no more scapegoats. Can't blame the EU, Remainers, the Irish, Labour etc. Anything good or bad will be entirely down to the people that voted for it. 

Good luck to the good guys, not sure what fresh hell awaits us but I am sure we'll be back one day. 

Absolutely where I'm at with this. I share no values with the people who put Boris in office. They don't believe in tolerance, respect or an equal society where there is a level playing field.

The working class North were f**ked by Thatcher and that wasn't their fault - this time, they'll reap what they sow.

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This is a wonderful demonstration of the common sense of the ordinary people of our country, the silent majority of us who have had three years of badgering and hectoring from the remain brigade, the establishment, and the rest of them - not to mention a lot of people who make endless posts on here which they think are clever when they aren't.

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Well what a wonderful night and a landslide victory that totally vindicates what a brave few of us have been saying on this forum in the face of mean-spirited intolerance. 

Hopefully some will now realise they do not reflect the views of the majority and they will stfu, if even for a little while. 

So yesterday was your second referendum and the answer coming back was that the country is more determined than ever to leave the EU. 

Last night was also the rejection and total humiliation of a nasty, racist leader of the opposition by the ordinary decent people of this wonderful country. A shame on all those who, despite all the facts, still voted for that evil piece of work who hopefully will now slink off into the darkness where he and his ideas belong. 

So you have a choice. To get onboard this project and start to make this country great again or you can f off elsewhere. I'm sure the EU will welcome you with open arms. The rest of us are done with you. 

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7 hours ago, Creative Midfielder said:

Whichever flavour we end up with we will be out on 31st Jan 2019

Are you absolutely sure about that ?

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What a lot of tosh you Corbynistas spout. The NHS performance in Labour run Wales is worse than in England so the idea that only the socialists can be trusted with the NHS is utter boll*x.

I laugh my head off when you hard lefties describe Boris as liar. Corbyn and McDonnell are paragons of the truth? My ar$e.

Boris took the Mayorality of predominately socialist Greater London. He did such a lousy job according to you naysayers that the voters of GL voted him in for a second term. 
 

The Brexiteers are thicko little Englanders mantra is still shouted out by you idiots. No wonder traditional Labour voters gave you Marxist loving scum a good kicking. Let’s hope the centralist Labour members can regain control of their party so we can have an opposition worthy of the name.

BTW, is Billy Billsh1te still sulking in some dark corner?

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8 hours ago, Feedthewolf said:

Well I'm going to be a rarity in the social media ****storm going down tonight.

I'm not staying on this thread all night, because I'm a Labour voter and I'd rather lick my wounds privately.

However, I'd just like to remind everyone that there are 101 ways you can divide and subdivide society, and the most important thing is to remember that just because someone has a different political standpoint to you, doesn't mean there aren't a myriad of other ways in which your views are compatible... NCFC being just one example thereof.

Democracy has run its course.

OTBC x

Humility,very well said sir

 

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22 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

This is a wonderful demonstration of the common sense of the ordinary people of our country, the silent majority of us who have had three years of badgering and hectoring from the remain brigade, the establishment, and the rest of them - not to mention a lot of people who make endless posts on here which they think are clever when they aren't.

Yes indeed. If only there had been some kind of cyber-publication system in existence that would have enabled you to broadcast your views hundeds and hundreds and hundreds of times to billions of people around the world.🤓

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Christmas has come early - this is a victory for everyone that voted to leave, were sneered at, told they didn't know what they were voting for and looked down upon by the MINORITY but  OVER 10 MILLION brainwashed yoghurt-brained numpties voted for hard-left Marxist Labour.That's over 10 million of our fellow citizens, could not engage critical thinking past "free broadband" and "the Tories will ruin the NHS" Corbyn on the scrap heap 🙂.

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11 minutes ago, Crafty Canary said:

BTW, is Billy Billsh1te still sulking in some dark corner?

City1st seems not to have posted since mid-November, so there could be various explanations for his absence. There is a fair bit one could say about his posts, but on one point at least he was right. He said from the outset Brexit was a bad idea, which it is.

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State run broadband free for all, just like China, Russia, Iran and North Korea.

And some of you voted for that !!!

Shame on you

 

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@PurpleCanary

No purple you have learnt nothing

You should say

In my opinion

You are making a statement of fact for something we do not know

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3 minutes ago, Bagster said:

City 1st saw the writing on the wall

Saved himself the embarrassment!!

City 1st was a nasty little sociopath who got his comeuppance. No sympathy from me. 

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40 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

Well what a wonderful night and a landslide victory that totally vindicates what a brave few of us have been saying on this forum in the face of mean-spirited intolerance. 

Hopefully some will now realise they do not reflect the views of the majority and they will stfu, if even for a little while. 

So yesterday was your second referendum and the answer coming back was that the country is more determined than ever to leave the EU. 

 

Sir John Curtiss disagrees,

However, it seems unlikely to end the debate about Britain's relationship with the EU.

The country's divisions over Brexit were exposed in the very different swings across the country.

Meanwhile, at 47%, fewer than half of voters backed the Conservatives or the Brexit Party - the parties in favour of leaving the EU without another referendum.

 

 

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Have to look on the bright side.

Corbyn and his toxic clan should be consigned to the recycling bin. Electing Corbyn as Labour leader was a catastrophic error.

Johnson now has a large majority - that's good as we know he's a very soft Brexiter - so he can now ditch the ERG and align or mirror with the EU - best way to save the car industry (and others), fishing and have as seamless as possible a NI border. Given that he has a lot of ex-Labour seats - and he's keen on a lot of investment I might even go so far as to say he's domestically in the traditional centre ground - even centre left!

Whatever happens now with Brexit and the fall out the Quitters will just have to suck it up. I suspect all that glistens won't be  gold. 

Scotland is obviously leaving the UK. NI won't be too far behind.

I'll give it 10 years before the rump UK realizes it's global influence has seriously waned  - and another 10 after that to 'rejoin' - late as ever as in 1973 - a reformed and changed EU.

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1 minute ago, A Load of Squit said:

Sir John Curtiss disagrees,

However, it seems unlikely to end the debate about Britain's relationship with the EU.

The country's divisions over Brexit were exposed in the very different swings across the country.

Meanwhile, at 47%, fewer than half of voters backed the Conservatives or the Brexit Party - the parties in favour of leaving the EU without another referendum.

 

Absolutely par for the course and the reason our system is so dysfunctional - the 'will of the people' is a total myth as our governments are always formed by a significant minority of voters but never by a majority.

In a genuine democracy you don't win 56% of the seats with 43% of the votes, but in the UK 43% votes is an overwhelming victory apparently. That may settle the argument as far as Parliament is concerned but there is absolutely zero chance that it will heal the divisions in the country.

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23 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

Sir John Curtiss disagrees,

However, it seems unlikely to end the debate about Britain's relationship with the EU.

The country's divisions over Brexit were exposed in the very different swings across the country.

Meanwhile, at 47%, fewer than half of voters backed the Conservatives or the Brexit Party - the parties in favour of leaving the EU without another referendum.

 

 

Yes, but this is the nature of things

52% also didn't equate to half of the country

But you would've accepted the win

Just like you would've accepted 47%

Turnout was also only 67% so honestly your clutching at straws

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