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Gap down to seven

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On our season form we’re likely to win 4, lose 4 and draw 4 of our last 12 games, so 16 points likely, which most likely won’t get us top 6.

It would be nice to get a few wins and finish higher the the binners, given they’re 90 million in debt, rent their ground and none of their players would make it into our squad it would be embarrassing to finish below them.

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Trouble is the number of games left is diminishing quicker than the points gap.

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And to be honest, I don''t think we are anywhere ready for a return to the Prem.

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It''s not about getting into the top six, it''s about recognising that the challenge is still there to have a go at.

There are enough points available and that should be the focus. It is on until it is not.

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If by some fliuke we got promoted this season then we would need to spend every penny of £100m+ we got for getting there to have any chance of survival and I can''t see that happening.

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It''s not about getting into the top six, it''s about recognising that the challenge is still there to have a go at.

There are enough points available and that should be the focus. It is on until it is not.

Surely the challenge is to go out and win one game at a time and hopefully entertain at the same time. That is what they are employed to do.

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Finishing below the binners wouldn''t be as embarrassing as supporting them....

Surprised there Double N. You normally choose your words carefully but if we finish below them we could be said to be supporting them.

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"Only 6 for Millwall (and scum) who are in good form and winnable fixtures coming up. It''s over."

There are plenty of playoff rival fixtures coming up:

Ipswich face Sheff Utd, Bristol and Millwall for example. And whoever you play those games still have to be won....

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[quote user="keelansgrandad"]Finishing below the binners wouldn''t be as embarrassing as supporting them....

Surprised there Double N. You normally choose your words carefully but if we finish below them we could be said to be supporting them.[/quote]
Oh how they wish we were their rock Pops rather than the shifting sands they currently topple on.....

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[quote user="Capt. Pants"]We''ve only won 5 out of 17 home games, not the form we need to get out of this league, more relegation.[/quote]Our away games are like home games for us, as teams come at us and are vulnerable.  We can beat any team, so I can see us wittling away that gap, slow but sure. OTBC

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We are way off the pace. Our ''goals for'' column says it all and sums up why we won''t be making the play-offs.

I think around where we are now is where we are likely to finish

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[quote user="paul moy"][quote user="Capt. Pants"]We''ve only won 5 out of 17 home games, not the form we need to get out of this league, more relegation.[/quote]Our away games are like home games for us, as teams come at us and are vulnerable.  We can beat any team, so I can see us wittling away that gap, slow but sure. OTBC[/quote]But we are where we are in the league because of our rubbish home form. To get to 75 points we need to win at least 9 of our remaining 12 games and sadly they are not all away from home.

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All of our away games are very winnable indeed, but even if our home form was good I must admit some of those such as Cardiff and Villa look difficult. I''m certainly not one for giving up though as long as it''s mathematically possible.  

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Well, if results go in our favour, by this time next week it is entirely possible we could be only four or five points off sixth place.  As Granpappy Keelan says, all you can do is win your next game and see what happens. 

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Might as well keep plugging away. Annoying now that we didn’t win though. We have everything going for us with our game bar composure in front of goal. If we can get that clicking we will fly up the table. Making up 7 points is certainly not out of reach.

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[quote user="lake district canary"]Well, if results go in our favour, by this time next week it is entirely possible we could be only four or five points off sixth place.  As Granpappy Keelan says, all you can do is win your next game and see what happens. 

[/quote]Results went in our favour this week but, despite being at home and playing against weaker opposition, we screwed up.When we''ve got to win pretty much every game you can''t afford slip ups like that. Some of the teams between 6th and 13th will fade or blow up but not all 7 of them will.

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"What happens to the 7 clubs above us while we make up all this ground in 12 games"

Often they play each other, or teams above 6th, or local derbies. Over the next three weeks we have

Brentford v Cardiff

Middlesbro v Leeds

Bolton v Preston

Preston V Bristol

Leeds v Wolves

Sheff Utd v Fulham

Brentford V Millwall

Fulham v Preston

Ispwich v Sheff Utd

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I understand that it is possible but the issues are that (1) we do not score enough goals, (2) we are unable to finish teams off, (3) we do not win enough home games and (4) we do not convert draws into wins.As we have suffered from those failings pretty much from game 1 to game 34, and Farke has been thus far unable to address and correct any of those failings, what makes people think that he could suddenly, with only 12 games to go, pull a massive rabbit out of the hat and cure all those failings now?

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@Making Plans

Yep- it just flies in the face of all logic and common sense.

Is it still mathematically possible? Of course. But anyone who thinks it might is basing it on nothing other than blind faith.

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To score goals you first have to create chances. This we were not doing, often having only one or two decent chances a game.

On Saturday we could easily have scored 3 in the first half. One would have done. We are narrowing the gap between winning & drawing (or losing).

The rate of progress is probably too slow & too late. But not quite enough to give up all hope. OTBC!

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