Branston Pickle 3,667 Posted July 2, 2016 His management record isn''t that bad - the time at WBA clouds it a little; you need to bear in mind the relative abilities/wealth of the sides you''re talked about. Certainly brings tonnes of experience which you''d think will be more than helpful.You do have to wonder at Archant and its journos, though - it seems they didn''t have a sniff that his was happening (or didn''t report it). The story on here was some time after it was put on the NCFC official site, where they even have a pic of Irvine apparently at training in full NCFC gear (with his initials on). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted July 2, 2016 It''s obviously an upgrade on Holt, but I''m sad to see him go, I guess he didn''t want to go down a peg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted July 2, 2016 Great coach very good with the young sides of Everton just think Everton had people like Irvine running the youth side academy director etc a man of a lot of football knowledgewe had Ricky Martin ha !Time to go right through the coaching set up we need more experienced football people like Irvine less people like Ricky Martin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,554 Posted July 2, 2016 Is Ricky Martin a coach now? I would have thought the job Ricky had under McNally was the furthest away from being a coach he has been. What changed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant Holts Moustache 105 Posted July 2, 2016 Ricky Martin was the person responsible for getting us Category 1 status for the Academy Nigel. Something we have recently retained. Whether people like him or not doesn''t matter as it looks from the outside as though he is achieving what he is employed to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Edwards 2,245 Posted July 2, 2016 [quote user="nutty nigel"]Is Ricky Martin a coach now? I would have thought the job Ricky had under McNally was the furthest away from being a coach he has been. What changed?[/quote]New Chief Exec. You heard it here first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,554 Posted July 2, 2016 I''m fully aware of what Ricky Martin has achieved and what he does now Deado.He is technical director supporting the manager on fitness, nutritional and other everyday stuff. He is also managing Colney which is a massive job at the moment. And yes, he was responsible for getting our academy to category one status.Just wasn''t aware he was a coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,149 Posted July 2, 2016 If it''s a step down for Irvine, what are the chances of him doing a ''Joe Royle'' and disappearing at the first better offer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted July 2, 2016 [quote user="Nuff Said"]If it''s a step down for Irvine, what are the chances of him doing a ''Joe Royle'' and disappearing at the first better offer?[/quote]Didn''t he come from Blackburn?I don''t really see that as a step down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant Holts Moustache 105 Posted July 2, 2016 Maybe I didn''t word it too well but was backing your point. As far as I''m aware he has never been a coach at the club, always been technical roles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green and Yellow fellow 0 Posted July 2, 2016 I think this is great news for us, there seems to be a nice balance of youth and experience throughout the club now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,554 Posted July 2, 2016 Totally agree with your comments Deado :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 274 Posted July 2, 2016 A most neutral meh from me. Good to get the background staff in place for the tactical training.Striker, cb needed to cement our auto promotion challenge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted July 2, 2016 [quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"]A most neutral meh from me. Good to get the background staff in place for the tactical training.Striker, cb needed to cement our auto promotion challenge[/quote]The wallet is empty. I''m surprised we could afford a new coach, frankly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldRobert 38 Posted July 2, 2016 [quote user="morty"][quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"]A most neutral meh from me. Good to get the background staff in place for the tactical training.Striker, cb needed to cement our auto promotion challenge[/quote]The wallet is empty. I''m surprised we could afford a new coach, frankly.[/quote]Don''t worry Morty, he''s only on approval.[;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted July 2, 2016 [quote user="OldRobert"][quote user="morty"][quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"]A most neutral meh from me. Good to get the background staff in place for the tactical training.Striker, cb needed to cement our auto promotion challenge[/quote]The wallet is empty. I''m surprised we could afford a new coach, frankly.[/quote]Don''t worry Morty, he''s only on approval.[;)][/quote]OMG, back to the Roeder loan days?Clubs in crisis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 94 Posted July 2, 2016 Alan Irvine always struck me as non-inspirational & a bit dithery. I was glad he was employed elsewhere although I must admit I felt a bit sorry for the fans of those clubs.Sacked by Preston, sacked by Sheffield Wednesday & sacked by West Brom hardly shouts success does it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted July 2, 2016 [quote user="Norfolk Mustard "]Alan Irvine always struck me as non-inspirational & a bit dithery. I was glad he was employed elsewhere although I must admit I felt a bit sorry for the fans of those clubs.Sacked by Preston, sacked by Sheffield Wednesday & sacked by West Brom hardly shouts success does it?[/quote]They all get sacked in the end though, don''t they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,667 Posted July 2, 2016 If you didn''t go for someone in football ''because they''ve been sacked'' somewhere (often multiple times), the pool of guys who you''d go for would be minute. In any case, those were managerial positions which is different, perhaps he''s decided that being a bit further down the pecking order suits better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted July 2, 2016 Mourinho, ranieri, pochettino, koeman, pellegrini, ancelotti just to name a few managers who have been sacked and some more than once. Not a bad bunch. The so called messiah Paul Lambert was sacked by Livingston before ending up here.It''s such a poor judgment to suggest that if your a sacked manager your a poor coach. 2 completely different jobs. An ex england international was saying midweek that whoever takes over at England should bring in Mclaren as a coach, saying he''s a crap manager but the best coach around. You don''t go that long as Fergies number 2 and not be a good coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted July 2, 2016 poor manager great coach so as long as he is coaching its a good thing for the club we now have a experienced coach he had alot of experience coaching youngsters at Everton i hope alex neil just does not stop there Irvine has been academy director we had Ricky Martin in the same role just shows the difference one played over 300 club games one didnt get in wroxham side ! we need to upgrade alot more of the coaches at the club have people like irvine right through the set up from the youth upwards and dont get me started on fat frankie ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted July 2, 2016 Mourinho, koeman, pochettino, pellegrini, ancelotti, ranieri. Just a few "failed" managers. Some of those sacked more than once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted July 2, 2016 A coach isn''t a manager. Different job. Some say Steve Mclaren is a crap manager but one of the beat coaches out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted July 2, 2016 I''m normally a bit of a "pantwetter" on here but I''m quite pleased with the club bringing in someone of his experience. We needed someone who knew the English game more than the two Scottish assistants we had, time will tell obviously but a good mood IMO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,766 Posted July 2, 2016 [quote user="morty"][quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"]A most neutral meh from me. Good to get the background staff in place for the tactical training.Striker, cb needed to cement our auto promotion challenge[/quote]The wallet is empty. I''m surprised we could afford a new coach, frankly.[/quote]First team coach leaves club=wages saved. New coach appointed=old coaches wages used.Just a play really on the selling before we can buy scenario but hey keep up your pathetic childish agenda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted July 2, 2016 Oh dearie, dearie me[:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,307 Posted July 2, 2016 There was a time when you were totally positive no matter what the board and club did Til, I''m surprised just how critical you have become. I''m not going to criticise you as I think in some aspects you have that right.As for Irvine, I''m really not convinced by his return, but has been here during a successful period before, I''m not sure he''ll work out with AN as I don''t hold out too much hope, too reliant on the old guard! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted July 2, 2016 What are you on about?? Irvine and his return???? And the rest???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,766 Posted July 2, 2016 [quote user="Indy"]There was a time when you were totally positive no matter what the board and club did Til, I''m surprised just how critical you have become. I''m not going to criticise you as I think in some aspects you have that right.As for Irvine, I''m really not convinced by his return, but has been here during a successful period before, I''m not sure he''ll work out with AN as I don''t hold out too much hope, too reliant on the old guard![/quote]Apart from the fact your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever with regard to Irvine maybe you could point out where i have been critical in this thread of his appointment ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites