Derby Canary 3 Posted July 5, 2016 This person must be really good guys. Long notice to serve.Maybe we are waiting for Blair to clear Chilcott or even Corbyn''s availability.Or maybe we have n''t a clue and are hunting down more midfielders. Lessons of last year so quickly forgotten! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 342 Posted July 5, 2016 most decent CEOs will have a 3-6 months notice period in their current contracts - so it could be a good sign that we havent got a permanent one in place yet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derby Canary 3 Posted July 5, 2016 Good joke Zipper! This is football remember with ''loads of money'' where the priority (as we learnt to our cost) last year is to have key people in place earliest.I also predict that after half a dozen matches of the new season Irvine will take over on a temp basis pending hunting down new Manager - by end of season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,476 Posted July 5, 2016 Our Chief Executive was the 6th best paid in the Premier League.The evidence is that NCFC recognise and reward the role.Parma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TCCANARY 263 Posted July 5, 2016 [quote user="Derby Canary"]Good joke Zipper! This is football remember with ''loads of money'' where the priority (as we learnt to our cost) last year is to have key people in place earliest. I also predict that after half a dozen matches of the new season Irvine will take over on a temp basis pending hunting down new Manager - by end of season?[/quote] Is that just league matches or will it include friendlies and cup games? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,953 Posted July 5, 2016 [quote user="Derby Canary"]Good joke Zipper! This is football remember with ''loads of money'' where the priority (as we learnt to our cost) last year is to have key people in place earliest.I also predict that after half a dozen matches of the new season Irvine will take over on a temp basis pending hunting down new Manager - by end of season?[/quote]I''d much prefer it if you supported Derb.....oh wait, I think you do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derby Canary 3 Posted July 5, 2016 You misunderstand my point Parma.I do not suggest that we do not pay well, people do not ''serve notice'' in this business, we cannot afford to wait - refer again last year!More payment in lieu, applies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TCCANARY 263 Posted July 5, 2016 [quote user="Derby Canary"]You misunderstand my point Parma. I do not suggest that we do not pay well, people do not ''serve notice'' in this business, we cannot afford to wait - refer again last year! More payment in lieu, applies.[/quote] The new Sunderland Chief Exec officially started his new role on 1st July 2016, on the 25th May 2016 it was announced that he would be leaving his role at Maccabi Tel Aviv, that about a six week notice period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,486 Posted July 5, 2016 I think the 1st July date is more due to that being the official start to the season, and the date most contracts are fixed to rather than it being a notice period.For positions such as CEO there will sometimes be notice periods, there sometimes won''t - it really depends on where the CEO is coming from and if they consider him/her being in the role, whilst knowing they are changing roles in the future, is counter productive or not. They might get dumped on ''gardening leave for the period of their notice or just be allowed to switch roles immediately it is a case-by-case situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 6,051 Posted July 5, 2016 Derby Canary (where are you in Derby BTW, I live in Draycott) - look me in the (virtual) eye and tell me honestly that if we already had a new CEO, you wouldn''t be posting on here that we should have taken longer to get the right candidate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derby Canary 3 Posted July 5, 2016 [quote user="Nuff Said"]Derby Canary (where are you in Derby BTW, I live in Draycott) - look me in the (virtual) eye and tell me honestly that if we already had a new CEO, you wouldn''t be posting on here that we should have taken longer to get the right candidate?[/quote]Not at all NS. Contrary to popular belief I do not intentionally mean my observations to be destructive. I have supported the fine City for c50 years and would like nothing more than to truly believe that we were ''on the right course''! I have become more than a little fed up of us taking ages to appoint replacement Managers/Board members then soon after appointing others because of some deficiency in the original appointment/ or even an agency because the whole board does not know what it is doing in a football sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,963 Posted July 5, 2016 I''m sure that the board member with least knowledge of how to run a football club knows more about it then me. But then I am fick..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 3,081 Posted July 5, 2016 GuysI mentioned way back when (well when the announcement of the headhunters was news) that having them on board meant it would be impossible to have the new CEO in place before the end of August! Why? Well that company will not want to risk damaging it''s Professional Indemnity insurance and thus will have to demonstrate that they have done everything by the book. Which means a thorough and extensive search of potential candidates, deep testing of the long list before presentation to the NCFC board, with further testing of the candidate CV''s by interviews between the headhunters and the candidates, before even a short list is drawn up by the board for them to interview. Then there is the interview process, throw in holidays and getting the board all together in one place for the interviews. Then there is the negotiation with the preferred candidate (and his lawyers) before there is any consideration of notice periods! Exactly what form that notice period is will very much depend on the attitude of his existing employers - some hold the chosen person to work out their contractual notice period, others insist on gardening leave (although if the incoming CEO is from another football club I think by gentleman''s agreement this won''t be adhered to), others still are happy for the person to leave straight away with their blessing. But most will insist on their own replacement being lined up before releasing their man.Believe me having been in the position of managing such a process with external advisers, it ain''t no one week scattergun approach that getting a new manager in is usually. It took over nine months when I last did it, involving two searches when the first preferred candidate pulled out, and that was with a foreshortening of notice period. If the interview stage has been passed there may well be a lot of informal exchange of information before the new CEO starts, with advice being offered on contractual matters and targets. It might also be why the Canos transfer has yet to complete because getting the deal tied up may be linked to the new CEO giving the deal a once over. So calm down, Stoney is here for the interim as shown by the fact he is attending a fans forum on 22 July, Irvine being on the team will hopefully add experience to ensure the right moves are made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derby Canary 3 Posted July 5, 2016 [quote user="nutty nigel"]I''m sure that the board member with least knowledge of how to run a football club knows more about it then me. But then I am fick.....[/quote]The fact that the least knowledgeable Board member is more knowledgeable than you Nutty provides me with no consolation whatsoever! These guys should be appointed for what they can contribute to the Club in football terms NOT whether they appear in Debretts or what they achieved (OR did n''t!) in public life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derby Canary 3 Posted July 5, 2016 [quote user="shefcanary"]GuysI mentioned way back when (well when the announcement of the headhunters was news) that having them on board meant it would be impossible to have the new CEO in place before the end of August! Why? Well that company will not want to risk damaging it''s Professional Indemnity insurance and thus will have to demonstrate that they have done everything by the book. Which means a thorough and extensive search of potential candidates, deep testing of the long list before presentation to the NCFC board, with further testing of the candidate CV''s by interviews between the headhunters and the candidates, before even a short list is drawn up by the board for them to interview. Then there is the interview process, throw in holidays and getting the board all together in one place for the interviews. Then there is the negotiation with the preferred candidate (and his lawyers) before there is any consideration of notice periods! Exactly what form that notice period is will very much depend on the attitude of his existing employers - some hold the chosen person to work out their contractual notice period, others insist on gardening leave (although if the incoming CEO is from another football club I think by gentleman''s agreement this won''t be adhered to), others still are happy for the person to leave straight away with their blessing. But most will insist on their own replacement being lined up before releasing their man.Believe me having been in the position of managing such a process with external advisers, it ain''t no one week scattergun approach that getting a new manager in is usually. It took over nine months when I last did it, involving two searches when the first preferred candidate pulled out, and that was with a foreshortening of notice period. If the interview stage has been passed there may well be a lot of informal exchange of information before the new CEO starts, with advice being offered on contractual matters and targets. It might also be why the Canos transfer has yet to complete because getting the deal tied up may be linked to the new CEO giving the deal a once over. So calm down, Stoney is here for the interim as shown by the fact he is attending a fans forum on 22 July, Irvine being on the team will hopefully add experience to ensure the right moves are made.[/quote]...........and by the time that has all been completed ShefC with what we have left running our Club we will v likely be heading south to League One! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,963 Posted July 5, 2016 The problem is Derby - The impression I get from reading your posts is that you are even less knowledgeable than me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Row D Seat 7 0 Posted July 5, 2016 Good info, cheers. I doubt the new CEO is holding up the Canos deal though. I have nothing to base that on other than the interim team Balls said were in place meaning contracts and transfers (out and in) can be completed without delay.CEO is not here yet because of reasons you''ve suggested. He/she either hasn''t be found yet or is serving notice somewhere. It''s not helpful that we''re operating without a CEO during a summer window. For all McNally''s good, landing us in this wasn''t what we deserved. Still, I''m confident we will make the right appointment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted July 5, 2016 [quote user="Derby Canary"]........and by the time that has all been completed ShefC with what we have left running our Club we will v likely be heading south to League One![/quote]You wish! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diane 500 Posted July 5, 2016 Spot on with your post Shef Canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derby Canary 3 Posted March 25, 2017 [quote user="Derby Canary"]Good joke Zipper! This is football remember with ''loads of money'' where the priority (as we learnt to our cost) last year is to have key people in place earliest.I also predict that after half a dozen matches of the new season Irvine will take over on a temp basis pending hunting down new Manager - by end of season?[/quote]Admit guys that I was about 15 games adrift but I can''t resist reminding you that I told you so last July! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,169 Posted March 25, 2017 Even a stopped clock is righ twice a day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted March 25, 2017 [quote user="Derby Canary"][quote user="Derby Canary"]Good joke Zipper! This is football remember with ''loads of money'' where the priority (as we learnt to our cost) last year is to have key people in place earliest.I also predict that after half a dozen matches of the new season Irvine will take over on a temp basis pending hunting down new Manager - by end of season?[/quote]Admit guys that I was about 15 games adrift but I can''t resist reminding you that I told you so last July![/quote]This is the equivalent of someone getting three numers on the lottery and claiming the jackpot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 108 Posted March 25, 2017 m sure he is happy with his lotto lucky dip, can play again when new coach Hecingbottom is announced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derby Canary 3 Posted March 25, 2017 [quote user="Lessingham Canary"]m sure he is happy with his lotto lucky dip, can play again when new coach Hecingbottom is announced.[/quote]You can have as many new Managers,new structures as you like until this Club rids itself of it''s autocratic owner nothing will change.This Club is famous for converting Managers and players that have been successful elsewhere into rank ordinary performers! As soon as they move on they again become revitalised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted March 25, 2017 [quote user="Derby Canary"][quote user="Lessingham Canary"]m sure he is happy with his lotto lucky dip, can play again when new coach Hecingbottom is announced.[/quote]You can have as many new Managers,new structures as you like until this Club rids itself of it''s autocratic owner nothing will change.This Club is famous for converting Managers and players that have been successful elsewhere into rank ordinary performers! As soon as they move on they again become revitalised.[/quote]No it''s not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites