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Sounds like Barnes has been awful since coming on, constantly giving ball away

Do we honestly think there is a chance if we lose tonight he will be sacked? I just feel it’s inevitable that the board won’t do anything until end of the season, just all so depressing

But I thought Rowe wasn’t going to be played so he wasn’t cup tied!?! Or was that just people panicking about him being sold in Jan?

Stood behind Stan Collymore at v festival. Had his arms around two very attractive women!

Worryingly I’m not even mildly excited about the team announcement. Even if the team contains Sara, Nunez, Rowe, Sargent and Sainz I’m still expecting a dire and boring performance from a Wagner team.

I suppose that is the point and to become manager at 28 for a championship (former premier league) club is quite an appointment. If he fails he will be able to go back to being a number 2 at a big club. Do well (which given the shambles of a club we are now this means play offs) then a premier league position beckons. I dont expect he is interested but if he was I'd push to get him now - even if we agree with Arsenal we will wait until the end of the season and just use a caretaker manager for the rest of this. I know many wont be happy us 'giving up' this season but lets be honest promotion with this squad would be disastrous anyhow. I'd see it as a statement of intent for how we intend to develop a club and culture based on youth and brave decisions.

Think this probably says a lot. I'm in favour of the use of stats and clearly they have a huge role to play in tactics, player selection and recruitment. But during the game it might be a bit better if the coaching team actually spent their time looking at what's going on in the moment on the pitch! It also explains Wagners often ridiculous and predictable subs. Presumably the stats suggest that Rowe only has the energy to last 65/70 minutes and therefore HAS to be subbed even when he is clearly the only one of our players actually doing something on the pitch!

He’s just s**t. Needs farming out on loan to a league one team to see if he’s even up to that standard

I'd say he has been one of our best performers but is inconsistent. That's always been the issue with him, he seems to have the qualities that could make him a premier league full back (especially given how the position has developed over the years) but far too often he is prone to mistakes - often I think due to a lack of attention than ability.

Perhaps more interestingly the report mentions they may also be getting rid of an Arsenal loan left back and a DCM on loan from Chelsea…..perhaps we could go in for them! As for Omobamidele , getting anywhere near £11m was one of the few decent things Webber did in his last couple of years.

I'm one of the few who think that McCallum is a decent player. Admittedly his decision making can be poor and he lacks a bit of game awareness. But he is a strong and powerful player who is decent at getting forward. Given his age, I'd rather he was offered a new contract and we use the rest of this season to bed him into the team and see how he develops before we decide how much we need to invest in another left back (ie is it one to act as back up to McCallum or as a new starter). Either way we should be sorting one of their contracts now and play them consistently rather than the constant indecision Wagner seems to be showing.

I actually feel a bit sorry for him. Seems clear to me that he has probably realised he is a spent force. He’s come from a club where he was loved, being part of a squad that is successful and playing great football. I am sure he played a part in that success from a influencing factor if not actual play. I expect he came to us with the right intentions of showing he ‘still had it” and could bring us success. Sadly the reality is that he no longer has the skills or legs for the modern game. He has also joined a club which is a complete shambles and a squad of players who are probably as bemused as us fans. Mentally this means he is just a frustrated and angry player who is now literally just thrashing out at people. Wagner needs to pull him from the starting 11 and try to just use him from a coaching and supporting level on the training field. Let him regain his pride by focusing on trying to teach Idah how to actually play as a strong centre forward. If he could do that then it would still have been a good signing.

Think this is the point with Sara, I don’t want him being the player going in to 50/50 tackles with the intent of getting the ball or the man. That’s the role that is missing in the team and one that neither Nunez or McLean is suitable for.it’s not about thuggery but about being a hard working and hard tackling player either basic like Tettey or a bit classier like Skipp. Sara is the player that I want to receive the ball after the tackler wins it back. He can then uses his undoubted class to create something with a FORWARD pass (sadly Wagner seems to have told him only to pass sideways or backwards!)

I can’t remember feeling this despondent and uninspired by a Norwich team for years. I just want the season to end as quickly as possible in the hope that we then see Wagner sacked and a complete overhaul of the squad. I’m not expecting us to be competing for promotion for years but I’d at least like to be able to support a young team being coached to play good football rather than watching the dross produced by all these has beens (never beens). I’m just a non local arm chair fan who can’t even to be bothered to watch via a stream anymore so my thoughts are with all you season ticket holders who have paid and therefore will have to endure more of this rubbish.

We are just so awful to watch and so easy to defend against. Both Barnes and Fassnacht have been anonymous and should be subbed at half time. We’re not playing badly but it’s totally uninspiring ie mirroring Wagner himself. Surely he needs to go so we can make changes in January?

I’m not sure this is a terrible squad more like terrible team selection and just sticking to the same rubbish tactics

Gibson in, Wagner out

This was certainly noticeable against WBA, even with 11 men, seems ridiculous how we just seem to let the opposition stroll from before half way up to the penalty spot.

He was stupid today but then again so was Buendia on quite a few occasions. Hoping Wagner doesn’t hang him out to dry and we all recognise that many great players have reckless moments and it’s that unpredictability which forms part of the talent.

I just don’t think he has the required mental instinct to be a top player. He lacks the game sense to make a move in advance of a pass or the speed of thought to deceive a run (hence so many offsides). Later on in the game defenders are both physically and mentally tired so he doesn’t need to be one step ahead and his natural strength and pace are enough to have an impact.

I was there and I think your comments are wrong. Easily beat Huddersfield and looked very good in the second half. I’d take a draw v wba but think we could sneak a one goal win

I think the fact they’re at home and their fans will be expecting them to be in the front foot could help us. It was a struggle to break down Huddersfield yesterday but I think we’ve some more space both Sainz and Rowe will cause them problems. hoping for a good game

I’m glad to see both players and manager showing some passion. could still do with a bit more from the stands

Dull game on top but not really pulling them apart of creating chances. Sainz and Rowe clearly the sparks but carrying Barnes and Hernandez . Changes needed at half time

Norwich fans a rare breed around here!