Tommo

Was thinking why aren’t we in for him instead of Jamal Lowe - hopefully they can get a replacement in and we can get this one done.

Wagner dismissed having to go into the market for a striker - whilst Idah deserves his chance we can’t be running the risk of him and/or Barnes getting injured and leaving us short. young prem league striker on loan till Jan would be preferable to a free transfer striker

Rashica Doing a massive yawn on this photo - delighted to be back training with us !

Rak Sakyi apparently of interest to us. 15 goals for Charlton on loan from palace last season - suspect loan move

Really is silly season now - we are being linked with Asmir Begovic along with Leicester and Leeds

hopefully we get after the following :- - Lewis O’Brien - Hannibal (loan) - Shane Duffy - Max Johnston - Jamal Lewis

More than likely a free transfer or it’s Tom Ince, with us triggering a relegation release clause figure. would like us to move for Hannibal at Man Utd who was on loan at Birmingham last season.

He said that we would be making one or two more signings of the Barnes ilk which I took as age and experience related but could well also be a free agent. centre half is a definite priority with Omo likely to be sold and Hanley out till Christmas it would seem. not sure who is available though on a free that would fit the bill

Mate has just messaged - Ashley Barnes kids go to same school as his and he has told him he signed last week 2 year deal with us. Stoke only offered him 1 year which would have worked better for his family staying there but he is definitely signed for us

The stats I agree are indisputably favouring the removal of Wagner. The feeling of lack of ambition from the very top is what ultimately has to filter into the players mentalities eventually. Being a yo-yo club cannot be sustained . With the benefit of hindsight the sale of Buendia on the back of a successful promotion is the ultimate definition to the players that we lack ambition and are just happy to flit between the two leagues. trying to motivate this group of players whether it be Wagner or another manager to have turned this season around I think would have been a virtually impossible task.

I do get this and if he was to go then I can’t imagine many would think it was harsh given the horrendous stats. It has been bad and on a decline though since the final weeks of Farke, who’s head was being called for after his first season. Psychologically many of the current personnel have experienced 1 if not 2 relegations here and the belief and desire to go and push for promotion again hasn’t been there. the reality is like a lot have said, Webber and Wagner are not going anywhere. So my post is more trying to come to terms with this fact and what the mitigating circumstances could well be to having such a shambolic end to the season

I for one didn’t want Wagner in the first place. however listening to his post march interview he in so many words was describing in my opinion that a lot of the current playing personnel have been together too long, too set in their ways/methods, aren’t prepared to embrace his tougher training regime etc. therefore the squad needs a major overhaul with the right characters coming in who do take this on and bring players , particularly those with unfulfilled potential to kick on. Idah is a prime example - Sargeant still developing and Pukki a completely different striker. Getting Barnes in will hopefully help him. we need to get behind this project reset and forget what has played out in the last few weeks. Yes it has been completely unacceptable the last few weeks but Wagner has inherited a stagnant squad, players with the negatives of experiencing relegation and it would seem unwilling to change their ways to meet Wagner demands.

Like to see us go for Lyndon Dykes along with Barnes. variety of goals and neat touches to create opportunities on this video :- https://m.youtube.com/watch?embeds_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&source_ve_path=MTY0OTksMjg2NjQsMTY0NTA2&feature=emb_share&v=5g8sS3N-p2A

Suggested Barnes as a free transfer signing a few weeks ago. It’s a very good championship signing - got to look beyond the age and see the leadership, aggression that he can bring to get us up the pitch and would then assist Sargeant in being more effective up top. we then need a Hoolahan esque signing for the little and large act up front - Pritchard ?