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We must not get short of players who can play on the wing must we!...so imperative we keep Wildschut, Murphy and also Watkins who can play there and yes add Hernadez, alongside Simon Power, also Jordan Jones from Killy and Ben Woodurn from Liverpool..then if its true that Cam Jam is off to Cardiff or Derby we could have 5 wingers to fill the entire front row.

Thx Rhunarb. Nice goals, 3 needed points. It never matters how long a poor run lasts, a win always brings back the smiles.

[quote user="Duncan Edwards"]An ambitious club wouldn’t give him three games. Yet again Boro showing proper intent.[/quote]Indeed, sacking their manager who did not seem to be doing to bad a job there to bring in Pulis, who is doing such an awesome job at WBA...that is some intent for sure.

I see one or two guys think its way to early to be thinking of play offs or even higher, but in fact i disagree. Such is the magnitude of the turn around since the Millwall debacle that i have seen such a cohesive unit, so solid defensively, players united behind DF''s style and players who are starting to understand each others strengths and more important getting the results despite a staggering amount of injuries that it all combines to feel something very special is happening at our club. That this is happening only couple of months into the season is amazing, but i really dont see any reason at all why our total transformation since Millwall cannot be season long. Agree with Rhubarb, we will only get better to, and thou we lost tonight, i think it was a awesome way to bow out of the League Cup, the guys giving everything, some of them 120 mins tonight just two days after the Derby day triumph. Actually think tonights performance, never mind the result, will strengthen this group of players even more.Already thinking of how Alex Neil never really got over that Newcastle result in the Prem, after that game he was never the same . Think we have maybe already seen the reverse happen with DF, the Millwall game and the very useful 2 week International break in which he somehow not only found a formula to make the players look a team capable of  getting points week in week out, but has brought an immense feeling of pride, joy and feelgood factor sweeping right thru the entire club. Cant recall such a thing happening in a long while, not since maybe when PL started to rocket the club up the L1 table. OTBC.

Town and Neils Preston have both had good starts obviously as both are in the top 6, so credit to them both, that is all one can and want to say really. Sunderland clearly have big problems, they were lucky to play us in the first few games when DF was still finding a formula that worked. Looks to be a long testing season ahead for them.

Score 5, concede 12, 4 points in first 5 games...score 3, concede 0, 11 points in next 5 games. Dont recall such a surreal and bizarre opening to a City season ever before as this one. Seems DF has found a formula that works and his players have bought into his "defensive behaviour" syndrome, so first time in quite some time we are starting to believe our club has a defence that can defend. Loving this Championship season already, its so dang interesting, never a dull moment.Well done DF, well done every player, well done City, massive 3 points tonight. OTBC.

Long way to go of course, cannot judge any guy on just one or two performances, but if  Trybull has more positives such as on Saturday than negatives, then he could just be one of the better  signings of recent times, which i doubt many fans expected. Given the less than enthusiastic reports we had seen about him, not that any of us had ever seen him perform, plus the fact that we got him as a free agent, only gave him a year contract etc, expectations were not high for this guy. Just shows, in general, most of us know diddly about all these new guys  who have come into the club, yet many of us form some kind of pro or anti opinion of each one before we even see them kick a ball.So, from what we have seen of Trybull, its a big positive so far in the limited game time hes had here. For sure deserves to be one of the names in the squad on match days at the present time.

[quote user="BroadstairsR"]"It''s a ''must not put labels on an idividual game in a long season''." You can only keep saying that for so long and suddenly we''re past Christmas and out of contention. We are already five games in and currently sit in the relegation zone. Improvement urgent, imo, and from now on.[/quote]Out of contention?...of what?..promotion?..relegation?...mid table?..after 5 games nobody is in contention for anything. I would settle or be content to see a gradual improvement in leaking goals. Anyway, i agree that putting labels  on any game this early is plain daft.

Parma, ricardo...i understand what both of you are saying, i also understand, and by the way so does Lakey if you read his replies, that maybe in the present day climate, and in the  near future, the odds  seem, justifiably so, that we will find it harder to compete for a place in the Prem, maybe even top end of the Champs, but as Lakey rightly says, its not pre ordained, not in any way.Lakey has nowhere said he expects the new model to definitely work, hes admits to knowing the statistics etc etc, but i, like him, accept the reality  of the new set up at NCFC, and as a fan, hope it really does bring rewards. If it does or does not, time will tell, but  a huge amount of work has gone into the last few months and i for one applaud  whats happened  to the club and embrace it wholeheartedly. To compete, all you need is 11 v 11 on the pitch and there you go, its a relatively simple concept. As with Lakey, while i would want to see us do well, get in the Prem  and the rest, i would be a fan of City no matter what division they were in. Im not scared of NCFC becoming a smaller club in a bigger crazier football world, but i would be upset and annoyed  if they took to bigger risks than they can ill afford, when they have worked so so hard to be a sustainable club.

Have a close friend who lives in Woodbine, Georgia which is near the coast and close to the Florida / Georgia state line. Should Irma head north along eastern Florida, he will be in the firing line. Wish all the best to him and all others in the path of this impressive but scary and frightening hurricane.

[quote user="yellowandgreen"]You might be right. If I''m really honest I think I like the terrible times too![/quote]Yea, that''s a strange one, but i feel that way to, its  bizarre but  has some truth to it. That lot down the road, if nothing else, have done a good job in being stable and ordinary in the last 15-20 years, going absolutely nowhere. We know that Evans has much more money than Delia and Michael, but , at least locally, we all know that money does not get you everything. Town have become so ordinary they cant even get relegated....We have had a pretty much rollercoaster ride under Delia and Michael, including financially a decade ago, but for sure they learned from that, and if the end result is they are sustaining the future of NCFC as a self sustainable club, then im more than happy to see that continue, as i dont give a stuff what happens to the other 91  clubs. Let the roller coaster times stay on the pitch, yes including the lows, and dont poo poo a couple who keep this club as it is, there are far worse models out there, even ones with  much more finance.

Thx TG, nice to see some positive after so much doom and gloom. I have tried to keep a balanced opinion on the last few months at the club, in my view its been completely just and needed and responsible in cutting the Carra cloth, same time ive bought into the new set up to and remain undetered about the future prospects of DF finding his feet and producing a team that get results, this, even after two thrashings. I was one that never harboured  any belief about us top 6 this season, never mind top two. Long as are out of bottom three come end season and seeing the team finding a style that gets points, them im with it, not one of these people who give it "5 more games", "10 more games", "until christmas" blah blah.Good to see Carlton Morris doing well in a side that sit only 5 places below us currently, also young Ragett at Lincoln and many of the other loan players doing ok, sits well for the future. So yes, i have the same faith in Farke as yourself, but...not sure about calling him a cat...i would not go that far myself.

Some pretty ridiculous statements in this topic, such as DCB''s assertion that Delia  and co. hate us being in the Prem, more happy being mid table Champs...that is the biggest pile of tripe ive ever heard. There is no bigger fan of this club than Delia herself, every win fills her with that warm feeling we all get, every defeat brings a bit of angst inside, but she, like us all, move on to the next match and above all want us to do well, be it whatever division we are in.Glad the window is shut, we now have a week to take stock to before it all kicks off again. What will be will be as to reagards performance on the pitch itself, its only just begun as they say. So, AN finally left and the board put in motion a truly massive undertaking, both to slash the size of the clubs financial outlay, and give us a totally new set up with a huge amount of playing and management staff to go and complete new team, both off and on the pitch coming in, all this in a space of just a few short months. And the club lack ambition?..what total nonsense, they have achieved what they set out to do, and despite  some horrendous results, which i half expected anyway after all thats been done, the AN era already feels light years away to me, even though ts just a few months ago.Well done to all concerned, cannot be under estimated how huge the changes that have been made and yet, it still feels like our club, something so unique about NCFC that ive often found the right words to describe it. Yes, its results that matter, and a long season has only just begun, but that will take care of itself. Delia and the board have given us the change that was needed, plus kept us as a decent viable football club, which she  strives to always do, no matter what divsion we are in. Very very satisfied with the window, OTBC.

Would be fantastic if Ollie got some minutes on the pitch...a NCFC player in a team playing for the current reigning European Champions national side.. wonders, has that ever happened before?

[quote user="dhickl"]Sky reporting "We understand Derby want Norwich striker Cameron Jerome"[/quote]Why was this topic made when i had already made  similar topic around 12 hours earlier?...guess some guys are to lazy to check down the  list.

If a club had offered 12 mill for Ollie a month or two back then maybe City would have let him go, but not now. Looking around, Assombalonga and Chris Wood went for 15 mill and id like to think Ollie is at least in that kind of category, also the fact that its the last 12 hours of the window, we would find it next to impossible to find anyone of his quality for even 15 mill. We are not overly desperate for the money, the guy by all accounts is happy here, and good chance he may be be in the Portugal squad for the Faroe Islands in a few hours. Also, even if its the least important factor to the club itself, selling NO at this late hour would cause massive ill feeling for the fans, who are already braving the reality of City being in the bottom 3 of the Champs.History has shown NCFC usually do sell a player for whats considered "to good an offer" to resist, but in this instance, id like to see City stand firm and not cave in to any offer, its that important.

[quote user="JF"]norfolkngood wrote the following post at 30/08/2017 9:04 PM: if the merry go round starts with Evans at WBA then Klose i think we be gone Nelson to Reading I Also think if he was fit Pritchard would go also but as injured very unlikely in coming Striker on loan That would be a disastrous end to the window![/quote]Reading have spent today chasing a Brighton striker, Tomer Hemed, but the fee was turned down a few hours ago.  Think its just to late for any action on Nelson, happily.

The Telegraph reporting Derby making late bid for Cam, but will have to pay at least 3 mill.

Some early season stats just bring bewilderment, as Paddy Davitt has shown.  Reading and Sheff. Wed at home, Leeds, Boro away, arguably as hard a opening 5 games as you can receive and just 1 goal conceded. A manager leaves us, goes to Preston and his defence delivers that...im speechless.If Hanley does sign for City, i just hope he brings bottled water with him, its either the Norwich water or the air that affects our defences surely?

[quote user="Indy_Bones"]F**k me, will any of the miserablists be happy unless we sign the likes of Kompany, Ramos or Luiz???The last 2 weeks have been full of whines about ''lower level german imports'' and suchlike (as well as the usual Martin bashing), with demands for ''proven Championship defenders'', then when we''re linked with one with over 150 games at this level (as well as 23 in the Prem), that''s suddenly not good enough either.Will you lot of negative nancy''s, please make your f**king minds up, because at the minute it appears that almost anyone we sign is going to get slated before even kicking a ball (and definitely within a couple of games of them having done so), and it''s just pathetic behaviour tbh.[/quote]Agree totally with this. A dose of reality is needed, just look where we are, bottom 3 in the Champs, 12 goals conceded in 5 games, after 69 last season. If he signs, it would be welcome news as far as im concerned.

Out...Tettey, 40% chance. In...Hanley, 25% chance. Otherwise as you were.

No club will be getting Flint for anything under 5 mill, which for sure rules us out, and should be enough to close this particular thread.

Looking likely that Birmingham will be getting both Flint and Harlee Dean (just 2mill from Brentford!) so for us will be either Hanley or no one. Toon are more than happy to sell him to us, but as has been pointed out, his wages there would have been high compared to what he can offer him now. Wages probably more hassle than a transfer fee, im sure City would only offer something much much less than the 5 mill he went to Newcastle for. Maybe if Tettey moved on for 1 mill, plus we had 1 or 2 mill more, we  could just do it, but im far from certain.Hmm, Klose, Zimmerman, Franke, Raggett, Martin, Hanley...even allowing for Russ as a back up, Raggett not yet arrived here, thats 6 CBs...dont know about you guys but to me that does not seem logical.

Many posters in various topics have said lets see where City stand after 10-12 games. If the Villa-Millwall type results persist most of that period, then by the 13th game Farke will really be feeling the heat....which just happens to be October 22nd and you know where...that game could be a lulu.

[quote user="lake district canary"]This season is going to be a topsy turvy roller coaster of a season and threads like this I guess are inevitable, if a bit sad. It''s a long term project as the Gunn experiment was supposed to be, as the Hughton project was supposed to be, as most appointments were supposed to be. So we have had a difficult start - time then to keep the nerve and see it through to better times. It has to be a two or three season development, with a big learning curve for all concerned, including fans. It''s early days.[/quote]Well said Lakey, i mentioned in a post or two before that what we have is a 2 to 3 season project and some replies i had were from guys who obviously had their heads buried in the sand. Webber has said more than once that to get the complete (if complete is the right word anyway) article here would take several transfer windows, yet some fans already lost all patience after just 5 games.But maybe these such early stark results have a positive side to them. Paddy Davitt i think got  it right, saying DF was trying to put the roof on his project before the foundations had even been laid.DF has no excuse now, he can see the result of trying to do that, he has no otherway now than realising he has to adapt slowly with his project, and take on board pretty quickly the necessity of  not throwing away the age old simple systems we have in the Championship. But therein lies the question, he maybe has to learn them, never mind even throwing them away. As you rightly said Lakey, its a learning curve, all the way from us fans to DF himself. And to, roller coaster is right, the coaster right now having travelled down a long slope.