Jump to content
Note to existing users - password reset is required Read more... ×

All Activity

This stream auto-updates     

  1. Past hour
  2. really ? he just seems to be pointing out Parliament and the government in particular periodically goes through these spasms remember Major and the cash for questions low point, soon forgotten when Labour was elected in 1997 as was the time of the Profumo affair similarly sorted in each case the voters appeared to have lost faith in politicians and the system but as he ends, nothing much will change for all the vacuous guff about PR etc - voters will simply gravitate to whichever side seems best to represent their views... hence ukippers lurking amongst the Tories and being easily lured back when needed all brexit has done is exposed a divide on a more socio-economic divide, once it is over and the UK is in the EU most will revert to back type, just as certain folk will trot out newspaper opinions in place of their own thoughts plus ca change
  3. And those are marginal to each other in most cases - so it would be simply a case of swings and roundabouts What this has highlighted is not the failure of Parliament but the failure of so any voters to inform themselves at even the most basic level. Much of the brexit support has not risen above the level of sheep bleating out what they are told to bleat. Even their 'leaders' have shown contempt for them. Remember Farage's words about “having to deal with low-grade people every day” . Does not the words describing those (not being the above) as elites suggest what they really think of brexiteers. Have you ever heard anyone describing them as being over burdened with intellect ? Take a look at the drunken halfwits attacking the police at a pro Brexit march. Do they suggest they have the slightest idea of what being a member of the EU means - beyond some absurd guff that involves racism and homophobia. The country has had to suffer the rigors of trying to extradite itself by the lawful democratic process from some idiocy inflicted upon it by a bunch of clueless numpties who neither knew what it was about nor how to progress beyond bleating out a slogan. The same numpties who have opposed almost every democratic action taken to clear this mess up.
  4. Haha, love it - can’t link it because I’m dense but here’s the screenshots!
  5. Rock The Boat

    OT - EU straw poll...

    This is not the end. Nor is it the beginning of the end. It might be the end of the beginning or just the beginning. If it is the end of the beginning and not the beginning of the end then it could be in the middle. The middle of the beginning to the end of the beginning is a different middle to the middle at the beginning of the end to the end, which it is not. And neither is it the beginning. So the middle of the beginning to the end of the beginning is not the same middle as the middle at the beginning of the end to the end, which means not only are there two middles but also another middle between the middle nearest the beginning and the middle nearest the end, which are also the middle of the beginning and not the end of the beginning and not the beginning of the end and at the end, which might be in the middle. But if we think the middle between the beginning and not the end of the beginning and the middle between the end of the beginning and not the end is the same as the middle which is between those middles is a middle then we'll just get in a muddle. So in order not to get confused between the middle which is between the beginning to the end of the beginning and the beginning and between the end to the beginning which is not the end and the middle between those middles we could just swap out the middles for bananas, as in one banana, two banana, three banana, four... five banana, six banana, seven banana more.. potatoes work well too. So that gives us (best said in low, gravelly voice): This is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. It might be the end of the one banana, two banana, beginning. Or it might be the three banana, four, beginning where you think the end should be if it is not going to end before the beginning really gets going five banana, six banana in which case it's gone, seven banana, more. See?
  6. sonyc

    OT - EU straw poll...

    And here is some latest thinking on the state of the party system which better argues my points ... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/26/brexit-mps-party-system?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Outlook
  7. oh dear, poor mouse brain not the slightest idea as ever any petition that is discussed and voted on still will only at best win a non binding vote...as has always been the case maybe you should have a look instead at what is happening tomorrow in Parliament instead and perhaps ask yourself why a revocation of ART 50 is looking more and more probable and your misinformed squeaks about the UK leaving the EU on the 29th March are looking awfully silly now
  8. sonyc

    OT - EU straw poll...

    My thinking Essjayess is simply that there are a good number of Tory and Labour MPs with a marginal or a small majority and could lose their seats. I agree with your thoughts on regional variations. I believe it depends on how each of the parties present their policies or position themselves re. Europe. The Tories are very split and also Labour are too. Of course there will be two main parties but I could foresee the Greens, the Tig's and Lib Dems gaining. Latest polls show a rough 4% lead for the Tories over Labour (38% to 34%).
  9. Today
  10. Herman

    OT - EU straw poll...

    "Never was so much screwed up for so many by so few" Winston Churchill.
  11. The government response to the article 50 petition is just appalling. I do not think article 50 should be revoked unless parliament does not come up with a deal and then it is approved by a referendum. However the tone of the government response is highly unprofessional and never something you would send in a business context. It highlights why they have not been able to come up with a satisfactory deal with the EU and with parliament as they are clearly not willing to listen or empathise with any other view than their own. Just dismissing an ever increasing majority who are against brexit and not seeking a compromise clearly shows they are more concerned about the old out of touch right wing extremists in their party rather than the good of the country. Hopefully Letwin and Cooper are successful in taking over the process as from a business perspective the government is clearly incompetent.
  12. Icecream Snow

    OT - EU straw poll...

    You mean this Ben Bradley? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/16/ben-bradley-under-fire-for-blogpost-urging-jobless-people-to-have-vasectomies With Andrew "Plebgate" Mitchell being interviewed today, it's like the Who's Who of Screw Ups
  13. Icecream Snow

    OT - EU straw poll...

    Doesn't surprise me. Given the UK's supine response to this petition "loot boxes are not gambling if the items you get through them cannot be exchange for real money". So according to the UK government, if I spend real money to win something in a game of chance, it's not gambling. https://metro.co.uk/2017/10/26/uk-government-responds-to-loot-box-petition-7029179/ followed by Belgians actually understanding the issue and banning it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43906306
  14. Herman

    OT - EU straw poll...

    They're bringing back the Malthouse Compromise. As welcome as Black Lace reforming.
  15. SwindonCanary

    OT - EU straw poll...

    BAD NEWS for some on this forum https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revoke-article-50-petition-brexit-latest-government-rejects-a8841246.html
  16. PurpleCanary

    OT - EU straw poll...

    That seems to be something no-one has mentioned before. Two points occur - what if MPs vote for something the EU has already rejected? More likely, reading that it seems the PM would only be forced to try to negotiate with the EU. Not forced to come to a deal. But no doubt we will hear more.
  17. Rock The Boat

    OT - EU straw poll...

    What sanctions could be brought against a PM breaking the ministerial code? The worst would be a VONC against her personally, I would have thought, and even that she might just shrug off. I can't see anything breaking the impasse tbh.
  18. Herman

    OT - EU straw poll...

    You crazy little kook, I wasn't confusing you and Swindon, I was advising him.
  19. Van wink

    OT - EU straw poll...

    Preston "I am told that the cabinet secretary Mark Sedwill and the attorney general Geoffrey Cox informed Cabinet that if at the end of the Letwin process MPs pass a motion mandating the PM to pursue a new route through the Brexit mess - perhaps a referendum, or membership of the customs union, or some other softer future relationship with the EU - the PM and government would be in breach of the ministerial code and the law if they fail to follow MP's instructions. Or to put it another way, the PM would be obliged to endeavour to negotiate with the EU the revealed will of MPs, even if that revealed will involved a Brexit delay that requires the UK to participate in May's European parliamentary elections, or is at odds with the Tories' manifesto. So the impression created by the PM that she could ignore the results of the indicative votes process is not true - or so ministers who attended Cabinet tell me." If this is the case, which I have no reason to doubt, that 5-2 might be good value
  20. Rock The Boat

    OT - EU straw poll...

    I;m talking about voting for revoke as an indicative vote, and then being rejected if it were presented in a bill of Parliament (ignoring the indicative vote. Comprenez?
  21. yes, at least if the UK leaves the EU it doesn't have to abide by EU regulations and agreements.....................well actually it will as the UK will continue to use EU schedules to trade under for the foreseeable only it will no longer have a say in their drafting a sort of rule taker I think is the word once it sets out on it's own it will be at the mercy of bigger countries like China India, Brazil, the US etc so will pretty much have to accept what they demand ... dodgy foods, a lowering of our food standards, lowing of animal welfare in farms, far greater numbers on visas and a huge loss of sales of our own produce exclusion from Europe wide police intelgence, anti terror info, scientific and health projects, student and academic exchange..... odd (or not) how it is the stupid and ignorant who want the country to head in that direction
  22. So Parliament passes legislation, which the government is able to ignore ! ! ! How does it ignore an Act of Parliament ? You cranks haven't a ruddy clue........and that is being generous in your favour.
  23. Capt. Pants

    OT - EU straw poll...

    OUT and I voted IN first time. The ship has sailed as far as the EU is concerned. If we revoke and remain we'll be taking it up the **** from all angles for ever more.
  24. westcoastcanary

    Pukki starts for Finland

    Pukki had one real chance in the game, a fierce right foot shot from about 15 yards out to the right of the goal. He went near post, and a low shot would probably have gone in. In the event it was body height and hit the keeper. Rather like in our recent games, it was a shot that he would likely have put away earlier in the season, but he hasn't quite got the same accuracy at the moment. Still got an assist though.
  25. Van wink

    OT - EU straw poll...

    Anyone for tea?
  1. Load more activity
×