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Should have pushed the boat out....

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"I dont see where it would have put the club in massive trouble as the

two players talked about would have been assets who would command money

if we failed to go up."Bennett just was not for sale Ricky.  CMS was for sale at silly silly money, that we would never have recouped unless he went on to be a 15 goal a season striker in the Premiership.

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[quote user="lincoln canary"]...... And signed CMS & E.Bennet. Injuries to key players are costing us dearly. We will never get a better chance to go up and we failed to bring to the squad what was required. Without Holt and Wes we are no where near good enough and will struggle to stay in the playoffs.[/quote][IMG]http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/word/bla-bla-emoticon.gif[/IMG]

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Here we go we lost one game and drew another and then its we should have done things differently and spent alot of money on CMS and Bennett instead of looking forward and getting behind the team, the doubters just start to moan and the worst part is that anyone can moan it becomes infectious. 

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i did not say we should have brought them or not my point was had we got them they were assets not a drain as we were not the only club interested and we could always recoup our money imo. If we did get promoted the money would have been a bowl of rice compared to the estimated 90 million prem status would give us and as it is i am happy with our progress this season.

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"I dont see where it would have put the club in massive trouble as the two players talked about would have been assets who would command money if we failed to go up."

"we could always recoup our money imo"

Absolute nonsense. Player contracts are not some simple representation of absolute value like a casino chip - where they can be cashed in for the same price as they were bought for.

If other clubs were interested in those players then that was at that part of the season and as those clubs stood at that part of the season. That those ''interested clubs'' didn''t sign those players suggests that they were not prepared to pay the fees and/or the wages. Why does it follow that they would in the summer ?

What underpins the original post and the above ridiculous claim is that somehow the club is setting out to do the fans down. That it is sitting on enough morey to be ''hambitious'' but through wilful spite or incompetence it is ''cheating the fans of their due. We have been here before, with this pantomime villain stuff.

However we have not been one point off automatic promotion to the Premier league for somewhile so maybe many of us will judge that as their measure of whether the club has ''hambition'', of whether it has ''pushed the boat out'' rather than witless drivel from the same suspects.

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Everyone knows we''ve been running a tight rope with no quality replacement for holt, if he''s now injured were stuffed. CMS may not have been a like for like replacement but like Bennet is a player on the very top of their game who would have bought more to the team then the inexperience of vokes and Pac. I''m delighted with this season don''t get me wrong there, I just feel we may have missed the opportunity to really push on. Elliot Bennet especially is the real deal and is somthing our squad is cleary missing, unfortunately I can''t see us getting him at all now as Brighton have won promotion, which is a huge shame.

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I know you haven''t been able to give your prophercies of doom for a long time Lincoln but this just about takes the p1ss

Elliot Bennett and CMS would have both been quality additions to the squad but the point being Norwich were not going to be held over a barrell and that is good in my eyes.

Norwich are not in a financial position to pay silly money for these players which is what Brighton and Peterborough were after, Posh even used this deal as a publicity stunt to ''pimp'' their player for a summer move.

IF Holt is injured we do have a quality replacement in Sam Vokes who showed what he has to offer last night, if we don''t go up then so be it, but we have to get away from this ''one man makes a team'' mentality, we had that with Huckerby in our last promotion to the Premiership season, and this team has shown they are a different proposition altogether.

Why ''push the boat out'' with no gaurentee that it will float?

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[quote user="lincoln canary"]Everyone knows we''ve been running a tight rope with no quality replacement for holt, if he''s now injured were stuffed. CMS may not have been a like for like replacement but like Bennet is a player on the very top of their game who would have bought more to the team then the inexperience of vokes and Pac. I''m delighted with this season don''t get me wrong there, I just feel we may have missed the opportunity to really push on. Elliot Bennet especially is the real deal and is somthing our squad is cleary missing, unfortunately I can''t see us getting him at all now as Brighton have won promotion, which is a huge shame.[/quote]How could we bring in Bennett when Brighton were not willing to sell him?

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[quote user="lincoln canary"] Let''s face it we''ve been very lucky with injuries to key players this season .[/quote]

But we haven''t been lucky in terms of our the playing in squad in general:

Out for months: Nelson, Surnam, Drury, Barnett, Askou?, Whitbread, Smith (LB), Hughes, Wilbrahams

Other injuries: Hoolihan, C. Martin, Lansbury, Ward, Tudor Jones?, Lappin, Fox, K. Smith

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As for pushing the boat out, you can only buy at reasonable prices if the selling club wants to sell!

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I have every faith in Lambert and the players. They''ll give us their all in an attempt to get us promoted, if they do ultimately fail they''ll go again next season and again, I have every faith in their ability to get the job done wether this season or next.

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"How could we bring in Bennett when Brighton were not willing to sell him? "

that''s a bit underhand

.............. using reasoned argument

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[quote user="lincoln canary"][quote user="G"]I think your right if we had those players we would have had an even better chance but at what cost? Is the gamble worth it?[/quote] I honestly didn''t see it as that much of a gamble as we were in an excellent position. Let''s face it we''ve been very lucky with injuries to key players this season and we all knew risk by not adding more quality. I know how negative this post is, I''m just really frustrated we didn''t sign more quality - at least then the board could say we gave it a good go.[/quote]

Any chance of you entering the real world at some stage?

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[quote user="lincoln canary"]Everyone knows we''ve been running a tight rope with no quality replacement for holt, if he''s now injured were stuffed. CMS may not have been a like for like replacement but like Bennet is a player on the very top of their game who would have bought more to the team then the inexperience of vokes and Pac. I''m delighted with this season don''t get me wrong there, I just feel we may have missed the opportunity to really push on. Elliot Bennet especially is the real deal and is somthing our squad is cleary missing, unfortunately I can''t see us getting him at all now as Brighton have won promotion, which is a huge shame.[/quote]

Perhaps you could explain exactly how you buy a player when the Club he is at refuses to sell

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[quote user="City1st"]"How could we bring in Bennett when Brighton were not willing to sell him? "

that''s a bit underhand

.............. using reasoned argument[/quote]You have to be underhand on here. [:P]

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I dont come on here much now but its the same old forum nobody is allowed a different opinion without being a bad supporter, or should be grateful etc etc, I am happy with City''s progress this season but the original poster has a point, who is to say if we miss out this year we will be in the mix next, Swindon pushed us all the way last year we are they now. Sometimes you do have to speculate, Lots of people during the window were saying we need a proven sriker

ok we could not afford M-S but there must have been others out there, imo it could come back to haunt us if Holts injury turns out to be long term, Vokes scoring record is not one that says he will score enough goals to see the job done.

I am not moaning and i repeat i am happy we the way the team has progressed under Lambert but i still feel a little adventure in the window would have been benificial rather than in hindrance.

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We could have signed one or both, by breaking the bank. Ridiculous money was being mentioned for players who might have flopped or caused problems within the squad.

At the time I was keen to sign them, but not at the price asked, or implied. It would have taken all our money for the summer and plunged the club into further debt on a risky basis.

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Either signing would have guaranteed nothing.We''ve been scoring plenty with what we have... maybe shoring up the defence may have made more sense.

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but you are all assuming it would had flopped what if we assume it had been successful our summer war chest would had been a hell of a lot bigger i would suggest.

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I think everybody on this board has been working themselves up to ''crisis'' point, and the reality is that the situation is not as serious as most feel. Believe it or not, it''s actually quite conceivable by 4:45pm on Saturday that we''ll be back in 2nd place. But what we don''t want to see is supporters getting it into the players heads that we''re in a crisis, it seems our nerves are getting to them - May sound funny but you can bet your bottom dollar many read this forum at some point each day, and we don''t need ''crisis'' being psychologically drilled into them. They play at their very best, and get results, when we''re right behind them. I of course do understand peoples concerns but we''ve not got in this position this season by fluke. Need to make sure on Friday night the Carrow Rd faithful remind Nottingham Forest who''s boss... IT''S UP TO YOU.

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[quote user="Paul Cluckbert "]Either signing would have guaranteed nothing.

We''ve been scoring plenty with what we have... maybe shoring up the defence may have made more sense.
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Can someone help me up off the floor here?

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"but you are all assuming it would had flopped what if we assume it had been successful our summer war chest would had been a hell of a lot bigger i would suggest "

explain (in English preferably)

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Sorry City 1st, have i got your attention. We were in for two players in the window which did not come off, the question was posed, that "should we have pushed the boat out to get them" Cue the usual response bad supporter, be grateful blah, blah. We would be doomed gone skint and so on. I just put the other side of the coin, we push boat out and we get promotion earning 90 million the money for those two players would look like loose change

I am sorry my english is not good enough to get past the internet police and my spelling is shxte but we cant all be genius''s.

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