What is with you people?

[The Voice of the Thorpe Area 0]

May I take you all on a magical journey back in time, to October 2007. We have 8 points, and about the same amount of goals scored. Our squad is depleted, tickets, for the first time in 4 years at Carrow Road, are available in their thousands, and city are doomed to Chesterfield, Leyton Orient, and the rest of League oblivion.

Little over 4 months later, city are a changed team. 2 defeats in 15, an unbeaten home record that had stretched over 4 months, and a play-off spot not completely out of the question, and it''s not only mission occumplished for Roeder and co, but they''ve pulled a miracle out of the bag that the lord himself would have been proud of.

The result of this? Although the vast majority of fans are indebted to Roeder, some others openly critisise every single decision the man has made since the 4-0 defeat at Leicester.

Sorry for the fairytale-like language, but you get my point. Get a grip some of you people, gain some perspective of where we were, and where we are now.

[Norwich R Us 59]

Well said. It won''t get through to them though, i''ve been trying for weeks! It seems to me that moan united were just waiting for the chance to rekindle their favourite pastime and not even reason will change that! As I said in another thread, it''s no great surprise that the most bitter souls on this forum are also the ones who have amassed thousands of posts and are on here creating repetitive new threads every single day. It''s just a shame that this drowns out the majority (and rational.....) view.

[DONT REMEMBER YOUR TENURE AS ENGLAND MANAGER 0]

The voice of the Thorpe Area! wrote the following post at Mon, Mar 03 2008 9:17 PM:

May I take you all on a magical journey back in time, to October 2007. We have 8 points, and about the same amount of goals scored. Our squad is depleted, tickets, for the first time in 4 years at Carrow Road, are available in their thousands, and city are doomed to Chesterfield, Leyton Orient, and the rest of League oblivion.

Little over 4 months later, city are a changed team. 2 defeats in 15, an unbeaten home record that had stretched over 4 months, and a play-off spot not completely out of the question, and it''s not only mission occumplished for Roeder and co, but they''ve pulled a miracle out of the bag that the lord himself would have been proud of.

The result of this? Although the vast majority of fans are indebted to Roeder, some others openly critisise every single decision the man has made since the 4-0 defeat at Leicester.

Sorry for the fairytale-like language, but you get my point. Get a grip some of you people, gain some perspective of where we were, and where we are now

 

Here Here - can''t believe what I have been reading recently, some of our fans are needing to get in a delorian and travel back to October 2007 and thus remember how doomed we were.

Simply do the Math

Norwich + GRANT = League One

Norwich + Roeder = Mid-table

Hmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, tough one me thinks, which sum do I prefer!!

[DDD In The Fine City 1]

By far the most sensible and correct post i have read on here in ages. You just cant please some people, these people seem to think we should have a given right to win every home game when only a matter ot months ago we looked like a dead cert for the drop.

Roeder is trying to form a team out of the crap left behind from Grunt and his wheelings and dealings in the loan market that will be able to keep us in this league, this i think he has done.

Its no suprise the papers have started linking him with a move to a higher placed club and if he came on here and read the village idiot mentality posts who could blame him for wanting to jump ship.

[Stone 0]

I''m all for a bit of healthy debate on here, but you''re spot on!

I think a few more people need to consider our situation now compared to our situation back the the time of olde...(well, October 07)

[YellowIce 0]

Good sensible post. Posters are happy to dig at anything so they can say they were right.

Our team were average players in competition with very poor acadamy players - now the technical ability of the loaness has opened everyones eyes to real quality. Yes Gibbs has looked lightweight - but i would rather end up mid-tabole and keeping on the good side of premiershp managers. It has done wonders for teams like Brum and Stoke. Full of loanees and on the up.

My brother also raised an interesting point to the poster who say Glen is just using us a stepping stone. If he does leave we should say thank you. He has done an amazing job - he hasnt exactly put us in the toilet and used us e.g Dowie at Coventry.

On that note i hop Glen stays here for a very long time.

[WeAreYellows49 0]

Some nice posts to read on here, I hope you''ve got your tin hats ready for the anti Roeder brigade will be here soon enough to ruin a good thread.  How quickly some fans forget, and how short the memories are from just before Christmas.

Oh and wait for the Percy Positives name callings & the Can''t we critisise Roeder statements, or is he above critisism remarks, like clockwork they are lol.

If we lose again or just draw you know they will be calling for him to resign.

 

[bloodwagon 0]

I would just like to say, this is the best post i have read for a long time on this forum.

I can`t believe people still knock GR for not winning !!! Seams theres a group of people wanting us to go down just to prove THERE point.

Once again, when he got here, we was ADRIFT, now we are mid table, and still they knock him. He just cant win can he !

If he does move on you can`t blame him, seams whatever he does he cant win.

 

[Scooby 0]

Been saying the same thing myself since Leicester. Just waiting for the backlash to your post from the anti board/Roeder doom mongers. Buckle up Voice, it''s about to get bumpy! [:D]

[Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,223]

Voice of the Thorpe Area - Do not disagree with what you say but I do not see why that should justify such an abject performance against Blackpool, after all you are only as good as your last result. I am blowed that I am going to be told that I should not be upset at such an abject performance, yeah we have done well since GR took over but that performance was simply not good enough.....

[Carlos Valderrama 0]

Amazing how a sensible, realistic post doesn''t attract any replies from the mongers of doom on this forum.  I think that in itself speaks volumes.

[Buncey 1]

Good post. Typically I''d agree with it however over the last 10 years we''ve seen this time and time again. A nice start by the new manager. Doing all the right things, making all the right noises. However just like Grant, Worthy, Rioch, Hamilton etc. the wheels have fallen off. We are playing awful football again. And just like last time, the time before and the time before that it was forseeable. The manager was picking the wrong players, had turned on the fans, was making the wrong tactical decisions. We have seen it too many times before, remember king worthy who couldn''t put a foot wrong? I for one can admit that I wasn''t happy at roeder''s appointment, hopefully I will be proved wrong but it looks like a typical Roeder "curve" so to speak. Go on a great honeymoon run, keep it going with a shrewd policy, then something starts going wrong, take it out on the media/fans and then get relegated. I hope in my hearts of hearts that this is the case, but Roeder just doesn''t see him mistakes, all too familiar of the disastrous Grant and end Worthy era.

[YellowIce 0]

Fellas, i think the problem is how much can managers do with such a lack of resources?

I am not a poster who wants us to spend more than we have, and i am not critisising the board. But we are a small club in terms of the new age of football and we have to do some things we may not like e.g please premiership managers. Due to the fact we dont have much pulling power individually.

 

[DDD In The Fine City 1]

[quote user="Sons of Boadicea"]Voice of the Thorpe Area - Do not disagree with what you say but I do not see why that should justify such an abject performance against Blackpool, after all you are only as good as your last result. I am blowed that I am going to be told that I should not be upset at such an abject performance, yeah we have done well since GR took over but that performance was simply not good enough.....[/quote]

Why not start with the players that were on the feild then, not the man that has taken us from certain relegation to mid table safety

[DDD In The Fine City 1]

Fellas Blah Blah

[Buncey 1]

Devonshire, obviously you are quite loyal to roeder and I understand that. But at some stage the manager has to be responsible for how the team plays on the pitch. Now considering the squad went out to spain for the week, the apparent fact that we had absolutely no tactics against blackpool, and the possibility that the team he picked was the wrong team suggests to me that Roeder made some mistakes. Now, yes roeder has been fantastic this season but to the past little debacle but then again I am seriously concerned that we will get another Worthy situation whereby just because we did well for a sustained period of time it puts roeder above critisism. Roeder doesn''t deal with critisism well. Now he''s going to accept that if things go wrong people will be questioning his judgement.

[The Butler 0]

Must be a great job! 25,000 people looking over your shoulder, everyone convinced they know better than you AND watching a different game.As I have said before Roeder imo is doing OK we are just about out of the brown sticky stuff and with a bit more of the Roeder luck will be safe in the near future. The summer we build, yes I do think the board will back the man and the way forward looks good. If they don''t then and only then is the time to shout or what ever.The roller coaster has been near the bottom its now starting to climb again, hearts in mouth, and wait.........

[DDD In The Fine City 1]

A worthy situation? after six months in charge, the guy hasn''t even had chance to bring in any of his own permenent players yet. the team Grunt left him with would have struggled to win a game in league 1, we were certain for the drop when he took over and have only lost 5 games with him in charge. we have come off a 13 game unbeaten run and lost a couple, SO WHAT stoke have just lost a couple and are no longer top of the league. give the bloke some credit and stop being so bloody negative for a change.

[king canary 8,758]

I dont agree that the run excuses the blackpool performance but I think this is more aimed at the people who suddenly think we are going down after losing a couple of games.

[Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,223]

Dr Mr Dirtbox - I was not having a go at GR, if you look at what I said you will see that I agreed with Voice of the Thorpe Area. You will also see in another post I suggested that GR needed to give the players a boot up the backside. My point is aimed at those posters who seem to think there is something wrong with being upset at the Blackpool performance and use the previous good run as justification. To redress the balance I am really happy that the players responded in the right way and got a very good point at Watford after being outclassed in the first half. If you are trying to paint me as a "moaner" you are barking up the completey wrong tree my Devonshire friend.

[Carrow89 186]

I think it is BECAUSE we are doing better now that a few on here are getting upset.

[nutty nigel 7,902]

[quote user="Sons of Boadicea"]Dr Mr Dirtbox - I was not having a go at GR, if you look at what I said you will see that I agreed with Voice of the Thorpe Area. You will also see in another post I suggested that GR needed to give the players a boot up the backside. My point is aimed at those posters who seem to think there is something wrong with being upset at the Blackpool performance and use the previous good run as justification. To redress the balance I am really happy that the players responded in the right way and got a very good point at Watford after being outclassed in the first half. If you are trying to paint me as a "moaner" you are barking up the completey wrong tree my Devonshire friend.[/quote]

I would never paint you as a moaner SOB and I agree about the Blackpool performance. But to be fair it''s the away form that has been crucial  in our recent good run. Most of the big results and good performances have come away from home. We won 3-1 AT Blackpool. Our home form hasn''t really been that good.

But I do think you''re barking up the wrong tree to say we were outclassed in the first half last night. We were maybe out-muscled and out-hoofed and definitely out-throwined but our team was brave in both halves and deserved their point.

 

 

[corbs 0]

GR has produced one of the best turn-arounds I can remember, but thankfully his honeymoon is coming to an end, and normal service will be resumed, which is inevitable. All Managers make mistakes, have weaknesses, and make enemies, and Glen is no different. It is still early days, but I am cautiously optimistic. But I accept that the natural state of many football fans is one of cynical pessimism, and it is all to easy to predict doom and gloom, and blame the Board/Government etc. This is a very typical english trait, which says more about the individual than it does about the subject matter in hand. I am indifferent to these views and their predictability. Basically the anti Board/Anti Delia people have yet to come up with a single fresh or intellectually stimulating arguement. In a league of over 20 teams it is hardly rocket science to predict that most teams are set to fail, and we may be among them. As I have said before when I first watched City I stood in the old River end amongst the moaners. They will always be with us, bless.   

[Mello Yello 2,572]

[quote user="corbs"]GR has produced one of the best turn-arounds I can remember, but thankfully his honeymoon is coming to an end, and normal service will be resumed, which is inevitable. All Managers make mistakes, have weaknesses, and make enemies, and Glen is no different. It is still early days, but I am cautiously optimistic. But I accept that the natural state of many football fans is one of cynical pessimism, and it is all to easy to predict doom and gloom, and blame the Board/Government etc. This is a very typical english trait, which says more about the individual than it does about the subject matter in hand. I am indifferent to these views and their predictability. Basically the anti Board/Anti Delia people have yet to come up with a single fresh or intellectually stimulating arguement. In a league of over 20 teams it is hardly rocket science to predict that most teams are set to fail, and we may be among them. As I have said before when I first watched City I stood in the old River end amongst the moaners. They will always be with us, bless.   [/quote]

You don''t moan......do you.

Hero.

[corbs 0]

I moan at the moaners, so I am a moaning hypocrite.