No local investors - yes their are - but they are being blocked

[Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0]

[quote user="Good News Gordon"]

[quote user="Bayve Desleigh"]Skipper?[/quote]

Enough said...........

[/quote]Skipper said when he left that more money could have been made available.  And basically accused the Board of a lack of ambition.

[canary cherub 1]

[quote user="Good News Gordon"]

I don''t think it is even about money, it must be a status thing, as if it wasn''t she would have followed up on other offers/possibilities that I gave indication to earlier

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That''s what worries me too Gordon, that being the person she is, she doesn''t want to sell at any price regardless of the best interests of the club.  The Maggie Thatcher syndrome in other words.  Hubris got the better of her and became her downfall in the end.

From his comments in the press about allowing her to remain as a "figurehead and icon" I think PC has her sussed.  He knows it will only be outside pressure that forces her hand, like with Thatcher.  That''s why he''s gone public.

Delia, we can do this the easy way or the hard way.  You choose.

 

[Good News Gordon 0]

[quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="Good News Gordon"]

[quote user="Bayve Desleigh"]Skipper?[/quote]

Enough said...........

[/quote]
Skipper said when he left that more money could have been made available.  And basically accused the Board of a lack of ambition.
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Yes because he found a very good source of mega investment and the Carrow Road Mafia didn''t want to know.

[Hog 0]

sick of it all, I can''t see how anybody could still support Delia and her cronies after this.

[Good News Gordon 0]

[quote user="Salahuddin"]

sick of it all, I can''t see how anybody could still support Delia and her cronies after this.

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That exactly what I am saying, this all needs to come out NOW and let the supporters do to her what they did to Chase.

The people who were directly involved need to speak out, what have they got to lose?

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[quote user="The Butler"]

Look at all the backroom high management that have been "moved on" during DS''s reign. People that cared about the club. To be replaced by DS supporters. GNG how long have you been involved with the club? My outside/inside involvement stretched from the 80''s to about 2005.

Anyone know why RM has made no comment? In his position he should be one of the people commenting.

[/quote]So you would have been in a position to know the truth such as you posted in your "same old story" post yesterday that very quickly disappeared?I ask simply because I had heard this a few years back from  somebody connected to the Club but that was the first time I''d ever heard it substantiated as such.Could get very messy if there are skeletons like that at the back of peoples cupboards.

[Good News Gordon 0]

[quote user="Worst Wizard"][quote user="The Butler"]

Look at all the backroom high management that have been "moved on" during DS''s reign. People that cared about the club. To be replaced by DS supporters. GNG how long have you been involved with the club? My outside/inside involvement stretched from the 80''s to about 2005.

Anyone know why RM has made no comment? In his position he should be one of the people commenting.

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So you would have been in a position to know the truth such as you posted in your "same old story" post yesterday that very quickly disappeared?
I ask simply because I had heard this a few years back from  somebody connected to the Club but that was the first time I''d ever heard it substantiated as such.
Could get very messy if there are skeletons like that at the back of peoples cupboards.
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And this string of posts will disappear very soon me thinks

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[quote user="Worst Wizard"][quote user="The Butler"]

Look at all the backroom high management that have been "moved on" during DS''s reign. People that cared about the club. To be replaced by DS supporters. GNG how long have you been involved with the club? My outside/inside involvement stretched from the 80''s to about 2005.

Anyone know why RM has made no comment? In his position he should be one of the people commenting.

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So you would have been in a position to know the truth such as you posted in your "same old story" post yesterday that very quickly disappeared?
I ask simply because I had heard this a few years back from  somebody connected to the Club but that was the first time I''d ever heard it substantiated as such.
Could get very messy if there are skeletons like that at the back of peoples cupboards.
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What was the ''same old story'' post?  I have searched and can''t find it....  are you saying it was taken off?!?! 

Someone call Mulder & Scully ffs [:O]....  All these conspiracies are making me pretty uneasy at a time when I should be optimistic about the new cash!

Anyone know anything else about why Skipper went?

[The Butler 0]

Yes I worked closely with and socialised with many of the "old team." Most felt very bitter about how they were treated. I have little doubt that I was told what they thought  and were in a position to suspect, as the truth. I dont support RC he like the present lot made mistakes. I have tried to post this before but usually ignored or............

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[quote user="Cluck"][quote user="JC"]

How do I know that potential local investors are being blocked?  well I am not going to reveal my sources or name any names. But I have it first hand from someone very high up the food chain at Norwich Union that there are several potential local investors they know of through conversations at business events, but they are being blocked.  I will not name names, but there is one chap who has been a lifelong city fan, is worth over £200 million and has tried to get involved but there is ''just no way in''.  He even said that this chap laughed at the club debt and said it was not an issue.

I also had this verified by someone else who attended a local chamber of commerce meeting last week and came up with the same name for the investor without prompting after they heard the same story.

It stinks around this club.

 

 

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It''s this very myth that perpetuates Delia''s cynical "saviour" status. For those awake all those years ago it smelled bad then....but now it possitively wreaks.

There are other people who would dearly like to take this club places....but then would you allow DS and MWJ to feather their own nest with your investment?  There are very few "accidental" successful businessmen/women in this world...so therefore they will have the good sense to stay away.....or wait for a bargain when Delia finally throws in the towel.

They''ll come along at the right time I can assure you.......

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He''s back............thank God!.[:D]

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[quote user="Fat Prophet"][quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="FIST WIZARD"]

How do I know that potential local investors are being blocked?  well I am not going to reveal my sources or name any names. But I have it first hand from someone very high up the food chain at Norwich Union that there are several potential local investors they know of through conversations at business events, but they are being blocked.  I will not name names, but there is one chap who has been a lifelong city fan, is worth over £200 million and has tried to get involved but there is ''just no way in''.  He even said that this chap laughed at the club debt and said it was not an issue.

I also had this verified by someone else who attended a local chamber of commerce meeting last week and came up with the same name for the investor without prompting after they heard the same story.

It stinks around this club.

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Well it seems some where in the know some time ago...

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Thanks for digging this up CJF.

I note that it''s dated 1st October, which is not as close to the AGM (18th October) as I''d thought.  It also makes it pretty clear that discussions had been going on before October. 

 

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Frightening isn''t it FP?

Exactly how long have City fans ben kept in the dark regarding this matter?

Haven''t wanted to comment on this thread until now, as at the time it seemed like it was pure speculation.

But JC hit the nail on the head well and truly didn''t he???

 

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What was the ''same old story'' post?  I have searched and can''t find it....  are you saying it was taken off?!?! 

Someone call Mulder & Scully ffs  All these conspiracies are making me pretty uneasy at a time when I should be optimistic about the new cash!

Anyone know anything else about why Skipper went?

You wont find it Dions Ligthtsaber it was deleted by the Mods within just a couple of minutes yesterday. I daren''t repeat it as it seems to be a very touchy subject around these parts.I think time will tell us why Skipper really left.I''ll leave you with some food for thought though DL.How tenable do you think Delias position would be if say.... the bank called in the £16m loan for immediate repayment?

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GuysAfter I posted this I heard a few more things about an approach to the club.  It has all turned out to be true - which vindicates my sources - phew!I am NOT going to call for Delia to be hanged - she has despite what some say, been a positive figure for the club and has invested money in it.The problem is that it is now her and Wynn Jones'' baby and they quite rightly don''t want to let it go to a new home and walk away.  Ask yourself - how easy would you find it to walk away?However, now that it is in the open and people know that this has been going on since at least last October, we KNOW we have been consistently lied to from the entire board about the scope, scale and source of any investment.  It leaves a bad taste in the mouth and no matter what their motives, the trust between board and ALL fans is now completely broken.The writing is on the wall for the current regime, and I can assure you that there is plenty of talk going on behind the scenes.

[quote user="Salahuddin"]

sick of it all, I can''t see how anybody could still support Delia and her cronies after this.

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[canary cherub 1]

[quote user="JC"]Guys

After I posted this I heard a few more things about an approach to the club.  It has all turned out to be true - which vindicates my sources - phew!

I am NOT going to call for Delia to be hanged - she has despite what some say, been a positive figure for the club and has invested money in it.

The problem is that it is now her and Wynn Jones'' baby and they quite rightly don''t want to let it go to a new home and walk away.  Ask yourself - how easy would you find it to walk away?

However, now that it is in the open and people know that this has been going on since at least last October, we KNOW we have been consistently lied to from the entire board about the scope, scale and source of any investment.  It leaves a bad taste in the mouth and no matter what their motives, the trust between board and ALL fans is now completely broken.

The writing is on the wall for the current regime, and I can assure you that there is plenty of talk going on behind the scenes.


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JC thank you for blowing the whistle.  Greatly appreciated.

We''re still in the dark about the Turners role.  You thought they might be acting on PC''s behalf to suss out the club from the inside.  Have you any more on that?

 

[Good News Gordon 0]

[quote user="JC"]Guys

After I posted this I heard a few more things about an approach to the club.  It has all turned out to be true - which vindicates my sources - phew!

I am NOT going to call for Delia to be hanged - she has despite what some say, been a positive figure for the club and has invested money in it.

The problem is that it is now her and Wynn Jones'' baby and they quite rightly don''t want to let it go to a new home and walk away.  Ask yourself - how easy would you find it to walk away?

However, now that it is in the open and people know that this has been going on since at least last October, we KNOW we have been consistently lied to from the entire board about the scope, scale and source of any investment.  It leaves a bad taste in the mouth and no matter what their motives, the trust between board and ALL fans is now completely broken.

The writing is on the wall for the current regime, and I can assure you that there is plenty of talk going on behind the scenes.


[quote user="Salahuddin"]

sick of it all, I can''t see how anybody could still support Delia and her cronies after this.

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Then with ref. to what I was saying earlier why can''t certain individuals come forward now and say what was going on.

They no longer have anything to lose by this and would save the club from ruin, and get that investment we need.

If PC doesn''t follow through then the other sources of investment could be followed up again.

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[quote user="JC"]

Everything is circumstantial, but I can assure you (look at my post and history) I am a normal level-headed supporter.  I just happen to have friends who are close to the club and relatives who are prominent in the local business community, so I hear a lot of things, and when I heard the same info from different sources I felt it may mean that something is going on.  I passed that on as best as I can while protecting identities.  That one of my sources claimed to have heard the main player talking about this at a dinner in a prominent London restaurant, an event I know both attended, made me think ''hey this is worth sharing''.

The fundamental, and possibly most important point to take away from this thread has been made (I never thought I would say this) by Cluck.  This thread and the responses prove we all want the same thing, a decently run club with some sembelance of ambition.  I hope what I have heard does prove to be true as it could once again unite the people who support our fantastic club and county.

[quote user="Le Juge"]I mean no disrespect and am not calling anyone a liar. However, something doesn''t add up, this seems too good to be true, too circumstancial, too much like some bloke got bored down the pub and told all his mates and the rumour spread. Don''t get me wrong, I really hope it will happen but do not for a second believe it will.[/quote]

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Agreed, and the reasons why there have been so mnay arguments on here over the past year or two is tha we haven''t had this. This could be so brilliant, not just for the club, but for the city and the whole local economy. Please let it be true..

[Barclay_Boy 0]

[quote user="Salahuddin"]I have just emailed Peter Cullum as well, maybe if another thousand could do as well, the message might just get across![/quote]

 

email address for him please? Apologies if it''s been posted previously.

[canary cherub 1]

[quote user="Barclay_Boy"][quote user="JC"]

Everything is circumstantial, but I can assure you (look at my post and history) I am a normal level-headed supporter.  I just happen to have friends who are close to the club and relatives who are prominent in the local business community, so I hear a lot of things, and when I heard the same info from different sources I felt it may mean that something is going on.  I passed that on as best as I can while protecting identities.  That one of my sources claimed to have heard the main player talking about this at a dinner in a prominent London restaurant, an event I know both attended, made me think ''hey this is worth sharing''.

The fundamental, and possibly most important point to take away from this thread has been made (I never thought I would say this) by Cluck.  This thread and the responses prove we all want the same thing, a decently run club with some sembelance of ambition.  I hope what I have heard does prove to be true as it could once again unite the people who support our fantastic club and county.

[quote user="Le Juge"]I mean no disrespect and am not calling anyone a liar. However, something doesn''t add up, this seems too good to be true, too circumstancial, too much like some bloke got bored down the pub and told all his mates and the rumour spread. Don''t get me wrong, I really hope it will happen but do not for a second believe it will.[/quote]

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Agreed, and the reasons why there have been so mnay arguments on here over the past year or two is tha we haven''t had this. This could be so brilliant, not just for the club, but for the city and the whole local economy. Please let it be true..

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Well said BarclayBoy.  I hope the poster who started that thread about "we don''t want all this, it''s causing disunity" will have a read.

 

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[quote user="Worst Wizard"]

 

What was the ''same old story'' post?  I have searched and can''t find it....  are you saying it was taken off?!?! 

Someone call Mulder & Scully ffs  All these conspiracies are making me pretty uneasy at a time when I should be optimistic about the new cash!

Anyone know anything else about why Skipper went?

You wont find it Dions Ligthtsaber it was deleted by the Mods within just a couple of minutes yesterday. I daren''t repeat it as it seems to be a very touchy subject around these parts.
I think time will tell us why Skipper really left.
I''ll leave you with some food for thought though DL.
How tenable do you think Delias position would be if say.... the bank called in the £16m loan for immediate repayment?
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Deleted because it was libellous?! Or deleted because someone is censoring the forum for less ethical reasons?

If its the former then fair enough....  As for the back calling in the loan?  I imagine she would struggle to cover it... but why would they call in the loan immediately?!?

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[quote user="Salahuddin"]

sick of it all, I can''t see how anybody could still support Delia and her cronies after this.

[/quote]

 

Then stand by to be amazed mate, there are still plenty of people who regard not suporting Delia as akin to high treason.

[renegade tootsie 0]

Nope - the Turners are the ones who are really grey figures in the background.  back in October the sources were definitely saying they were the advance party for Cullum.  But at the minute I cant find anything about where they really stand - I suspect that whichever camp they are in, delias, cullums or their own, they could be the key to what happens next.

[quote user="Fat Prophet"]

[quote user="JC"]Guys

After I posted this I heard a few more things about an approach to the club.  It has all turned out to be true - which vindicates my sources - phew!I am NOT going to call for Delia to be hanged - she has despite what some say, been a positive figure for the club and has invested money in it.The problem is that it is now her and Wynn Jones'' baby and they quite rightly don''t want to let it go to a new home and walk away.  Ask yourself - how easy would you find it to walk away?However, now that it is in the open and people know that this has been going on since at least last October, we KNOW we have been consistently lied to from the entire board about the scope, scale and source of any investment.  It leaves a bad taste in the mouth and no matter what their motives, the trust between board and ALL fans is now completely broken.The writing is on the wall for the current regime, and I can assure you that there is plenty of talk going on behind the scenes.

[/quote]

JC thank you for blowing the whistle.  Greatly appreciated.

We''re still in the dark about the Turners role.  You thought they might be acting on PC''s behalf to suss out the club from the inside.  Have you any more on that?

 

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[jetstream 0]

Fascinating stuff, especially in light of Skipper''s comments today.

[Castle Acre Canary 0]

[quote user="JC"]

How do I know that potential local investors are being blocked?  well I am not going to reveal my sources or name any names. But I have it first hand from someone very high up the food chain at Norwich Union that there are several potential local investors they know of through conversations at business events, but they are being blocked.  I will not name names, but there is one chap who has been a lifelong city fan, is worth over £200 million and has tried to get involved but there is ''just no way in''.  He even said that this chap laughed at the club debt and said it was not an issue.

I also had this verified by someone else who attended a local chamber of commerce meeting last week and came up with the same name for the investor without prompting after they heard the same story.

It stinks around this club.

Well I heard it was the guy who used to own Bennetts the electrical store. Can''t remember his name but this tittle tattle came from someone in the media who should know

 

 

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[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="Good News Gordon"][quote user="Worst Wizard"][quote user="The Butler"]

Look at all the backroom high management that have been "moved on" during DS''s reign. People that cared about the club. To be replaced by DS supporters. GNG how long have you been involved with the club? My outside/inside involvement stretched from the 80''s to about 2005.

Anyone know why RM has made no comment? In his position he should be one of the people commenting.

[/quote]

So you would have been in a position to know the truth such as you posted in your "same old story" post yesterday that very quickly disappeared?
I ask simply because I had heard this a few years back from  somebody connected to the Club but that was the first time I''d ever heard it substantiated as such.
Could get very messy if there are skeletons like that at the back of peoples cupboards.
[/quote]

And this string of posts will disappear very soon me thinks

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Well I hope it doesn''t disappear from these boards.  Fans and more importantly share holders should know all the details, not just anti-board but pro-board too, at the end of the day and considering all arguments, people will make their own judgements and decisions based on those judgements.

I was only one of those involved with the anti Chase protests, it was slow to start, but as the truth came out momentum grew and the end result was so much pressure he had to go.  But the emphasis was always as a board protest, not towards the players or managers.  In fact I remember clearly one of the protesters waiting for a player to arrive and asking him to notify the players and manager the protests were not directed at them.

We have to trust that fan power will work again if the need is there, however clear and unbiased views must be aired by both sides, and on those facts fans will make their own judgements.

 

[ricardo 7,395]

Been telling you for ages that she wouldn''t let anyone else play with her train set. It''s been o.k. while she had the muscle to keep the disenters quiet but now a big boy has decided he wants to play.

Only one winner if it comes to a struggle.

[WeAreYellows49 0]

Ricardo surely Delia and the rest of the board must know or sense how the fans feel over this?  Or maybe she is being protected from how the fans truly feel?

[ricardo 7,395]

[quote user="WeAreYellows49"]

Ricardo surely Delia and the rest of the board must know or sense how the fans feel over this?  Or maybe she is being protected from how the fans truly feel?

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I am sure she knows what the feeling is now that the woodworms are coming out of the furniture.

This will be death by a thousand cuts if she tries to bluff her way out. PC has given her an "out" by saying he would like to keep her as the frontperson of the club. Unless she is blinded by her ego she will surely take that option. If not then it may have to be the knife.

My only fear is that PC is not sufficiently interested to wield the knife but for the sake of the club I hope that he does.

[canary cherub 1]

[quote user="Canary Ben"]

Acording to doncaster there is no truth in this rumour at all! Sorry guys. Not that he would tell us if there was though.

Neil,

Quick question, i wont go on about tonights dissapointment because i have made it perfectly clear in the past how i feel about current affairs.
Please respond with a simple yes or no answer to the following question if possible

Is the any truth in a rumour that a potential by over is either currently happening, attempiting to happen or likely to happen in the next couple of months?

Thanks

REPLY

thanks for your email  -  no, there is no truth in such rumours as far as i am aware.  there is not a queue of people waiting patiently to gift their savings to the Club, however much people would like that to be the case.  the fact is that very few people (with the obvious exceptions of Delia and Michael, Sharon and Andrew, and Michael Foulger) are happy to put their money into the Club as fans

 

OTBC
Neil

 

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* bump*

If you want a perfect example of "economy with the truth" look no further.

 

[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="ricardo"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"]

Ricardo surely Delia and the rest of the board must know or sense how the fans feel over this?  Or maybe she is being protected from how the fans truly feel?

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I am sure she knows what the feeling is now that the woodworms are coming out of the furniture.

This will be death by a thousand cuts if she tries to bluff her way out. PC has given her an "out" by saying he would like to keep her as the frontperson of the club. Unless she is blinded by her ego she will surely take that option. If not then it may have to be the knife.

My only fear is that PC is not sufficiently interested to wield the knife but for the sake of the club I hope that he does.

[/quote]

 

I think he might be interested, but maybe wants to test the water with the fans and ordinary shareholders first.  Let''s not forget he''s a fan too and gets just as frustrated as us with the club''s lack of ambition, it''s a great shame the board can''t sense what we do and try to improve things.

The current board can take us no further forward, we know that and I would be a little suprised if they didn''t.

I am just so disappointed with them and their attitude.

 

[Tetteys Jig 830]

This whole thread has made me increasingly frustrated to be a Norwich fan! come on guys (and gals) at the top, let''s get a deal thrashed out and get to the Prem, where we belong! We will not find better than Cullum, not now, not in a thousand years!