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I started watching City when we had such illustrious names as Bill Punton, Gerry Mannion, Phil Kelly, Mal Lucas, Joe Mullett, Kevin Keelan et al ''gracing'' the lumpy Carrow Road turf. The ground was a shambles and you could smell the bogs half a mile away........but it was OUR club then and we loved every one of them.....and we loved the rickety ground. They were our heroes. In truth we never had a hope in hell of making the top flight, but it didn''t really matter in those days because it was OUR club and it represented what still is one of the finest cities in the land.....if not THE best. A good cup run kept us happy and maybe brought one of the ''giants'' down to Norfolk for a humbling before the 40,000 plus City fans.

The difference now is that we don''t have that spirit that held us all together. We moaned like hell just the same then when we took a thrashing.....but we came back the next week to hope for better things. Sometimes we won....more often we lost.

Those old City fans were basically the same as those around now. They want honesty and effort. A Chairman who is a ''real'' football man/woman(?) at the helm....a down to earth solid manager who calls a spade a spade and a team who give 100% to bely whatever shortcomings they may have in the skill department.

Today we have nothing like that. Nothing but spin from the Board.......inept ramblings by an ineffective manager.....and on the whole a bunch of prima donna nancy boy players more concerned about their hair gel than winning the ball. I feel sad for the young lads who think this is what following City is all about.......''cos it bloody well isn''t.

If I wanted to see my team win every week I''d swing between Chelsea and Man. Utd. I really don''t care if we lose games.....but I do care when I see they don''t really give a damn. Sack the bloody lot I say and lets get back to basics. Delia and Co. out...Worthington, Livermore and Hunter out....plus all of the tossers who are only here playing for a wage.

Ninety minutes of true guts and honesty are worth every penny to go and watch....................

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think you''ll get alot of support with these comments cluck, and sure money is probably the root of it, but watching aload of geezers lumpin a sodden leather football about in long shorts, while being peed upon by the bloke standing behind and farted upon by the bloke standing in front isn''t my idea of fun anymore.  i''m far happier in this age.....if only they could warm the plastic seats for winter!

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Agreed CN. I started going to Carrow Road about that time and me and my friend used to stand behind the goal City were shooting into in the first half and walk all the way round the ground at half time(you could in those days) and stand behind the other. We used to go down Trowse and watch them train too. Most Lovewell Blake Combination sides have better facilities than the old City training ground these days.

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Glad I''m not alone then.......thank you!

I''m not taking away from what we have today. The ground is terrific and the players still wear green and yellow, but just like those old Christmases where we sat on Santas knee in Jarrolds, got a plastic elephant in our cracker and a tanner in the Xmas pudding.......the magic of matchday has dwindled.

I did the same by changing ends at half time, attended the pre-season Whites v Yellows matches and knocked on players doors in Sprowston asking for autographs. They didn''t mind and we never went on to sell those autographs on Ebay two days later.

Happy days..........sigh..........

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Brings back memories for me, when I was a kid I used to walk down to Trowse to watch the likes of Paddon, Cross etc train, got all their autographs, Ron Saunders put my pen in his top pocket after I got his autograph, I was to scared to ask for it back!!. On a different note I was watching "Football Years" on Sky Travel (Freeview) last night, the season was 1980/81 and it brought back bad memories as it was the season John Bond took over at Manchester City, we sold Kevin Reeves to the same club, and we got beaten 6-0 by them at Maine Rd, in the FA Cup (and I was there...DOH!!).

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I started watching City when we had such illustrious names as Bill Punton, Gerry Mannion, Phil Kelly, Mal Lucas, Joe Mullett, Kevin Keelan et al ''gracing'' the lumpy Carrow Road turf. The ground was a shambles and you could smell the bogs half a mile away........but it was OUR club then and we loved every one of them.....and we loved the rickety ground. They were our heroes. In truth we never had a hope in hell of making the top flight, but it didn''t really matter in those days because it was OUR club and it represented what still is one of the finest cities in the land.....if not THE best. A good cup run kept us happy and maybe brought one of the ''giants'' down to Norfolk for a humbling before the 40,000 plus City fans.

The difference now is that we don''t have that spirit that held us all together. We moaned like hell just the same then when we took a thrashing.....but we came back the next week to hope for better things. Sometimes we won....more often we lost.

Those old City fans were basically the same as those around now. They want honesty and effort. A Chairman who is a ''real'' football man/woman(?) at the helm....a down to earth solid manager who calls a spade a spade and a team who give 100% to bely whatever shortcomings they may have in the skill department.

Today we have nothing like that. Nothing but spin from the Board.......inept ramblings by an ineffective manager.....and on the whole a bunch of prima donna nancy boy players more concerned about their hair gel than winning the ball. I feel sad for the young lads who think this is what following City is all about.......''cos it bloody well isn''t.

If I wanted to see my team win every week I''d swing between Chelsea and Man. Utd. I really don''t care if we lose games.....but I do care when I see they don''t really give a damn. Sack the bloody lot I say and lets get back to basics. Delia and Co. out...Worthington, Livermore and Hunter out....plus all of the tossers who are only here playing for a wage.

Ninety minutes of true guts and honesty are worth every penny to go and watch....................

[/quote]I love this post. Almost hits the point squarely on the head, (dont like losing myself, specially to footballing nonentities not fit to kiss Citys ass), but it hits all the targets right between the eyes. I saw my first City match as a kid in 1971, it was magical. Reading this post took me back there for a couple of seconds.   

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Nora, for those of us that were there with you, your comments resonate deep into the bones. If such posters as blahblahblah, Dicky and company care to LEARN AND UNDERSTAND how  fans can tolerate tough times ( ups and downs ) and still keep smiling regardless, may I suggest you try and have some direct one on one with Nora. She understands the DIFFERENCE between tough times and the current a) selfishness ( players ), b) stubborn indifference to fans ( Worthington ) and c) the spin machine ( The Board ), along with fans who criticise other fans because they fail to accept mediocrity. They now have allies in you BBB as you support this new breed and mentality. The required basics that Nora alludes back to is, in reality, the way forward. We just have to collectively have the will to ensure the club finds it''s roots again and then we can grow into the wonderful example that we should be for existing and future generations. Just because a person buys their season ticket or just because a person is the owner of the club or another is a manager, this alone is not enough. It is the TRUE belief, passion and commitment that, together, we can be more than we are today. That is the way forward. 

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I''m getting dewy eyed now...............

I remember knocking on Bryan Thurlow''s door back in 63/64 as a small boy and he invited me in. We sat by the fireside and he treated me like I really mattered. Terry Allcock and Kevin Keelan gave me shirts which I still treasure to this day. (you might have seen them in the Castle Museum exhibition). Bryan gave me a tie-pin from the Hong Kong tour which I wore at school for months!

Now I guess I''d have to scale the security gates and have a pocket full of bonios on hand to stop the guard dogs savaging me....only to be told to clear off by the body guard.

Still........never mind. Guess I''m one of the lucky ones! 

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I have got a very embarrassing picture (black and white) of me with John Manning taken at Carrow Road open day 1966. It was my most treasured possession for years.

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Couldn''t agree more, have also watched Norwich being beaten 6-2 (I  believe) by Man City didn''t go home feeling low just thought what an awesome team we had just played, Corrigan, Bell, Summerbee etc.

Nowadays I just feel either there is something flawed with our coaching staff or that the players don''t give a toss. We are playing teams with much less skill, that have far more organisation and will to win than we have ever had under Worthington.

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I think the word ''passion'' is what sums up the missing ingredient in modern day professional football........not of course confined to Norwich City. It''s still there in the lower leagues and during cup runs by smaller clubs it comes to the surface for all to see. Why does it need to be something restricted to those small, struggling sides? Are we too comfortable in the Championship? Do we really want to be stretched and humbled by clubs like the mighty Fulham(?). Maybe this is the case for the Board?

Dare I state the number of foreign players being used these days as an issue? I recall back in the 1960s that having an Irishman in the side was exotic.......and of course Kevin Keelan (Bombay) was almost an alien being. They may work if gifted with great natural talent, but the workaday types we see in the Championship are no great shakes and simply here for the money........not for the love of the Norfolk people.

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This is you I''m afraid, Cluck.

Stuck in the past, bitter, twisted and deluded.

Worst of all you have gradually and progressively turned your discontent into constant sniping at folk who simply wish to enjoy their Club for what it is today and what they hope it will be tomorrow.

You have brought out your personal dissatisfaction in the form of withering and desparaging comments against fellow posters and supporters not caring if you taint their pleasure just as long as you are able to self-gratifyingly deflect your own misery onto them.

Just accept that for the youngsters today the game is just as magical as it was for you and I in our younger days and give it a rest.

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[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]

This is you I''m afraid, Cluck. Stuck in the past, bitter, twisted and deluded.

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Say''s the man who''s taken the trouble to dig up a post from over a year ago.

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I actually think that''s the best thing Cluck has written.  More of that please, and less of Chairman Clucks'' Little Red Book of Realism.

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[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]

This is you I''m afraid, Cluck.

Stuck in the past, bitter, twisted and deluded.

Worst of all you have gradually and progressively turned your discontent into constant sniping at folk who simply wish to enjoy their Club for what it is today and what they hope it will be tomorrow.

You have brought out your personal dissatisfaction in the form of withering and desparaging comments against fellow posters and supporters not caring if you taint their pleasure just as long as you are able to self-gratifyingly deflect your own misery onto them.

Just accept that for the youngsters today the game is just as magical as it was for you and I in our younger days and give it a rest.

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Scraping the barrel to get attention here aren''t we Sadold?  Still trying to capture the limelight to boost your fading ego?

Carry on mate....It just makes you look even more foolish...if that were possible.

NEXT!

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[quote user="Shack Attack"][quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]

This is you I''m afraid, Cluck. Stuck in the past, bitter, twisted and deluded.

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Say''s the man who''s taken the trouble to dig up a post from over a year ago.

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hehehe poor old rude boy... seeking gratification as ever.

You do yourself no favours do you Mr Hucker????  [:P]

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[quote user="blahblahblah"]I actually think that''s the best thing Cluck has written.  More of that please, and less of Chairman Clucks'' Little Red Book of Realism.
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Right on, this has been quite poetic, I didn''t know the fella had in him. Keep on with this Cluck and we will think you really are human.

Give him a break as well, when he drops out of Chairman Cluck mode some idiot has a pop at him. What is the point?

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[quote]Keep on with this Cluck and we will think you really are human.Give him a break as well, when he drops out of Chairman Cluck mode some idiot has a pop at him. What is the point?[/quote]you tell me BigFish, I guess we can''t help ourselves [:)]

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[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]Keep on with this Cluck and we will think you really are human.

Give him a break as well, when he drops out of Chairman Cluck mode some idiot has a pop at him. What is the point?
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you tell me BigFish, I guess we can''t help ourselves [:)]


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You got me bang to rights blahx3[:$]............I guess we can''t help ourselves[:D]

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Nice post Cluck i enjoyed reading it, u are indeed a true city fan unlike your pal Smudger, i have followed city home and away since 1979 and must have attended near on a 1,000 games, one thing has never bothered me and that is losing as long as the players have come out and gave 100%, thats great, obviously over the years i have seen more defeats than wins, but i always think it makes the wins sweeter.

   About ten years ago i took a Man utd fan with me to Birmingham away, we won 2-1 with Adie Forbes scoring both, we had an understrength side that day and got battered, we battled for everything, us fans sung our hearts out, it was a great day, Mike the Man Utd fan who came with me said he enjoyed it more than any game he had seen during the last 5 years previous, he commented on the passion of players and supporters and that being a Utd fan just took winning for granted, he also couldnt believe the way we celebrated at the final whistle, he commented its like you have won the Fa cup, you can keep your Uniteds and Chelski`s i wouldnt support anyone else for all the money in the world.

But Cluck you are right that special feeling aint quite there at the moment, is that the players, management or board? Maybe a mix of all three !!

    

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[quote user="Cluck "]

I started watching City when we had such illustrious names as Bill Punton, Gerry Mannion, Phil Kelly, Mal Lucas, Joe Mullett, Kevin Keelan et al ''gracing'' the lumpy Carrow Road turf. The ground was a shambles and you could smell the bogs half a mile away........but it was OUR club then and we loved every one of them.....and we loved the rickety ground. They were our heroes. In truth we never had a hope in hell of making the top flight, but it didn''t really matter in those days because it was OUR club and it represented what still is one of the finest cities in the land.....if not THE best. A good cup run kept us happy and maybe brought one of the ''giants'' down to Norfolk for a humbling before the 40,000 plus City fans.

The difference now is that we don''t have that spirit that held us all together. We moaned like hell just the same then when we took a thrashing.....but we came back the next week to hope for better things. Sometimes we won....more often we lost.

Those old City fans were basically the same as those around now. They want honesty and effort. A Chairman who is a ''real'' football man/woman(?) at the helm....a down to earth solid manager who calls a spade a spade and a team who give 100% to bely whatever shortcomings they may have in the skill department.

Today we have nothing like that. Nothing but spin from the Board.......inept ramblings by an ineffective manager.....and on the whole a bunch of prima donna nancy boy players more concerned about their hair gel than winning the ball. I feel sad for the young lads who think this is what following City is all about.......''cos it bloody well isn''t.

If I wanted to see my team win every week I''d swing between Chelsea and Man. Utd. I really don''t care if we lose games.....but I do care when I see they don''t really give a damn. Sack the bloody lot I say and lets get back to basics. Delia and Co. out...Worthington, Livermore and Hunter out....plus all of the tossers who are only here playing for a wage.

Ninety minutes of true guts and honesty are worth every penny to go and watch....................

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Beautiffly writen Cluck...........Im holding back the tears as i write this. Maybe we should organise a video night somewhere and let some of the younger ones see what a  football club was all about back in the good old days!

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[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]

This is you I''m afraid, Cluck.

Stuck in the past, bitter, twisted and deluded.

Worst of all you have gradually and progressively turned your discontent into constant sniping at folk who simply wish to enjoy their Club for what it is today and what they hope it will be tomorrow.

You have brought out your personal dissatisfaction in the form of withering and desparaging comments against fellow posters and supporters not caring if you taint their pleasure just as long as you are able to self-gratifyingly deflect your own misery onto them.

Just accept that for the youngsters today the game is just as magical as it was for you and I in our younger days and give it a rest.

[/quote]

A bit of an over the top reaction to a pretty good thread! 

I dont think the game is as magical for kids these days - the chances of seeing anyone outside the big four winning the league nil; the days of a top team going out in the mud of an FA Cup 3rd round tie so much reduced; players falling over at the slightest touch etc.  Sky money is killing the game for me and the sort of atmosphere Cluck refers to seems sadly a thing of the past. 

I dont remember quite that far back, but at a time when the present is a pretty miserable place for a City fan this was a nice break from the real world.

 

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My god - its the opening caller on canary call - every week! 

Dribble dribble dribble...

 

[quote user="Cluck "]

I started watching City when we had such illustrious names as Bill Punton, Gerry Mannion, Phil Kelly, Mal Lucas, Joe Mullett, Kevin Keelan et al ''gracing'' the lumpy Carrow Road turf. The ground was a shambles and you could smell the bogs half a mile away........but it was OUR club then and we loved every one of them.....and we loved the rickety ground. They were our heroes. In truth we never had a hope in hell of making the top flight, but it didn''t really matter in those days because it was OUR club and it represented what still is one of the finest cities in the land.....if not THE best. A good cup run kept us happy and maybe brought one of the ''giants'' down to Norfolk for a humbling before the 40,000 plus City fans.

The difference now is that we don''t have that spirit that held us all together. We moaned like hell just the same then when we took a thrashing.....but we came back the next week to hope for better things. Sometimes we won....more often we lost.

Those old City fans were basically the same as those around now. They want honesty and effort. A Chairman who is a ''real'' football man/woman(?) at the helm....a down to earth solid manager who calls a spade a spade and a team who give 100% to bely whatever shortcomings they may have in the skill department.

Today we have nothing like that. Nothing but spin from the Board.......inept ramblings by an ineffective manager.....and on the whole a bunch of prima donna nancy boy players more concerned about their hair gel than winning the ball. I feel sad for the young lads who think this is what following City is all about.......''cos it bloody well isn''t.

If I wanted to see my team win every week I''d swing between Chelsea and Man. Utd. I really don''t care if we lose games.....but I do care when I see they don''t really give a damn. Sack the bloody lot I say and lets get back to basics. Delia and Co. out...Worthington, Livermore and Hunter out....plus all of the tossers who are only here playing for a wage.

Ninety minutes of true guts and honesty are worth every penny to go and watch....................

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Thats a nice post cluck there. Shame more of your posts couldn''t be as thought filled as that. Very good!

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TwoSheds wrote

Im holding back the tears as i write this.

Yeah Im laughing my nuts off too - time moves on some people should try to move with it

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[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]

This is you I''m afraid, Cluck.

Stuck in the past, bitter, twisted and deluded.

Worst of all you have gradually and progressively turned your discontent into constant sniping at folk who simply wish to enjoy their Club for what it is today and what they hope it will be tomorrow.

You have brought out your personal dissatisfaction in the form of withering and desparaging comments against fellow posters and supporters not caring if you taint their pleasure just as long as you are able to self-gratifyingly deflect your own misery onto them.

Just accept that for the youngsters today the game is just as magical as it was for you and I in our younger days and give it a rest.

[/quote]

 

Spot on mate - it''s sad that people licke Cluck will post anything to try bring down other people to their level of negativeity and bitterness. We all know were not a massive club but many of us Norwich fans like myself are still proud of what we have got, if not that much at all compared to the giants of the modern game. I love my football and I love Norwich City FC and no matter what doom and gloomy future some people may see for us I will always go to games to enjoy myself and do the best I can to support my team with a positive attitude, because the minute you look at your club the way the likes of Smudger, Cluck, twosheds etc look at the club now, you will strugle to enjoy this great sport we call football.

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[quote user="Cluck "]

I started watching City when we had such illustrious names as Bill Punton, Gerry Mannion, Phil Kelly, Mal Lucas, Joe Mullett, Kevin Keelan et al ''gracing'' the lumpy Carrow Road turf. The ground was a shambles and you could smell the bogs half a mile away........but it was OUR club then and we loved every one of them.....and we loved the rickety ground. They were our heroes. In truth we never had a hope in hell of making the top flight, but it didn''t really matter in those days because it was OUR club and it represented what still is one of the finest cities in the land.....if not THE best. A good cup run kept us happy and maybe brought one of the ''giants'' down to Norfolk for a humbling before the 40,000 plus City fans.

The difference now is that we don''t have that spirit that held us all together. We moaned like hell just the same then when we took a thrashing.....but we came back the next week to hope for better things. Sometimes we won....more often we lost.

Those old City fans were basically the same as those around now. They want honesty and effort. A Chairman who is a ''real'' football man/woman(?) at the helm....a down to earth solid manager who calls a spade a spade and a team who give 100% to bely whatever shortcomings they may have in the skill department.

Today we have nothing like that. Nothing but spin from the Board.......inept ramblings by an ineffective manager.....and on the whole a bunch of prima donna nancy boy players more concerned about their hair gel than winning the ball. I feel sad for the young lads who think this is what following City is all about.......''cos it bloody well isn''t.

If I wanted to see my team win every week I''d swing between Chelsea and Man. Utd. I really don''t care if we lose games.....but I do care when I see they don''t really give a damn. Sack the bloody lot I say and lets get back to basics. Delia and Co. out...Worthington, Livermore and Hunter out....plus all of the tossers who are only here playing for a wage.

Ninety minutes of true guts and honesty are worth every penny to go and watch....................

[/quote]Nice post cluck,not meaning to ruffle your feathers but football was a different game in them days,there are a lot of teams who you could mention in the same context(burnley,preston,huddersfield etc).Saying that though i agree 100% with what you say and the sooner the board and the inept manager are gone the sooner the rebliulding can start

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[quote user="Cluck "]

I started watching City when we had such illustrious names as Bill Punton, Gerry Mannion, Phil Kelly, Mal Lucas, Joe Mullett, Kevin Keelan et al ''gracing'' the lumpy Carrow Road turf. The ground was a shambles and you could smell the bogs half a mile away........but it was OUR club then and we loved every one of them.....and we loved the rickety ground. They were our heroes. In truth we never had a hope in hell of making the top flight, but it didn''t really matter in those days because it was OUR club and it represented what still is one of the finest cities in the land.....if not THE best. A good cup run kept us happy and maybe brought one of the ''giants'' down to Norfolk for a humbling before the 40,000 plus City fans.

The difference now is that we don''t have that spirit that held us all together. We moaned like hell just the same then when we took a thrashing.....but we came back the next week to hope for better things. Sometimes we won....more often we lost.

Those old City fans were basically the same as those around now. They want honesty and effort. A Chairman who is a ''real'' football man/woman(?) at the helm....a down to earth solid manager who calls a spade a spade and a team who give 100% to bely whatever shortcomings they may have in the skill department.

Today we have nothing like that. Nothing but spin from the Board.......inept ramblings by an ineffective manager.....and on the whole a bunch of prima donna nancy boy players more concerned about their hair gel than winning the ball. I feel sad for the young lads who think this is what following City is all about.......''cos it bloody well isn''t.

If I wanted to see my team win every week I''d swing between Chelsea and Man. Utd. I really don''t care if we lose games.....but I do care when I see they don''t really give a damn. Sack the bloody lot I say and lets get back to basics. Delia and Co. out...Worthington, Livermore and Hunter out....plus all of the tossers who are only here playing for a wage.

Ninety minutes of true guts and honesty are worth every penny to go and watch....................

[/quote]

 

FFS Cluck - why haven''t I seen this before!!!  One of your posts that I totally agree with...and you must be about the same age as me!!

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[quote user="lobster catcher"][quote user="Cluck "]

I started watching City when we had such illustrious names as Bill Punton, Gerry Mannion, Phil Kelly, Mal Lucas, Joe Mullett, Kevin Keelan et al ''gracing'' the lumpy Carrow Road turf. The ground was a shambles and you could smell the bogs half a mile away........but it was OUR club then and we loved every one of them.....and we loved the rickety ground. They were our heroes. In truth we never had a hope in hell of making the top flight, but it didn''t really matter in those days because it was OUR club and it represented what still is one of the finest cities in the land.....if not THE best. A good cup run kept us happy and maybe brought one of the ''giants'' down to Norfolk for a humbling before the 40,000 plus City fans.

The difference now is that we don''t have that spirit that held us all together. We moaned like hell just the same then when we took a thrashing.....but we came back the next week to hope for better things. Sometimes we won....more often we lost.

Those old City fans were basically the same as those around now. They want honesty and effort. A Chairman who is a ''real'' football man/woman(?) at the helm....a down to earth solid manager who calls a spade a spade and a team who give 100% to bely whatever shortcomings they may have in the skill department.

Today we have nothing like that. Nothing but spin from the Board.......inept ramblings by an ineffective manager.....and on the whole a bunch of prima donna nancy boy players more concerned about their hair gel than winning the ball. I feel sad for the young lads who think this is what following City is all about.......''cos it bloody well isn''t.

If I wanted to see my team win every week I''d swing between Chelsea and Man. Utd. I really don''t care if we lose games.....but I do care when I see they don''t really give a damn. Sack the bloody lot I say and lets get back to basics. Delia and Co. out...Worthington, Livermore and Hunter out....plus all of the tossers who are only here playing for a wage.

Ninety minutes of true guts and honesty are worth every penny to go and watch....................

[/quote]Nice post cluck,not meaning to ruffle your feathers but football was a different game in them days,there are a lot of teams who you could mention in the same context(burnley,preston,huddersfield etc).Saying that though i agree 100% with what you say and the sooner the board and the inept manager are gone the sooner the rebliulding can start[/quote]

It''s an old post dug up by Sadold*ucker in another effort to win some ego points. It backfired on him as usual.....

The point is...I was just like you when you arrived.....but several maulings by the apologists later I discovered that you could only toe the party line on here....and not criticise the status quo (not the pop group [;)]). So...what does one do? Give ''em as good as they gave me. Trouble is they can''t take it....which makes it all the more fun.

I still stand totally by what I posted.....and while it may be seen as nostalgia....a decent Board, a quality manager and a handful of decent players could make it happen again. There''s nothing in there that is beyond hope....but we''ve got to fight for it rather than roll over and watch the club die.

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Still don''t see it do you, Cluck.

You have turned your dissatisfaction with the modern game and the current state of NCFC into a campaign of dissillusionment towards anyone who tries to be positive or just enjoy their Club and this message board is your vehicle for doing so.

I bet there are many put off the Board by your one line sniping at anything they have to say. I occasionally take a dig at someone but it is done with tongue in cheek and for the purpose of a bit of banter. I like to set myself up too because I don''t suffer from arrogance as you so plainly do.

Message Boards are like people, they all have an @rsehole and in that respect you have a role to perform.

NEXT..............................!

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