Squad unload

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

We will all have different views on this, but if theoretically bids came in for some of our squad, who would be the personal preferences to sell?

Mine would be: 

Onel Hernanadez:  Always a firm favourite of mine, but the end of the road is nearing for Argos and he probably wouldn't even get into the Birmingham side, where he did quite well when on loan there. Nevertheless, £250, 000 from Brum.

Ben Gibson: Never spectacular, never commanding but often consistent I suppose, but his propensity for making mistakes when fiddling around at the back makes me nervous. His massive wages don't help his cause.£500,000 from 'Boro (some hopes.)

Adam Idah: No longer an enigma, just generally fails to offer enough at this level.  Nevertheless, £1m from Peterborough (as if?) could be the making of him in L.1 and by the time he is twenty-eight they could well make a profit on him.

I could go on, but I'll leave that to others. This club has a lot of cashing in to do at whatever the price.

P.S. I'd turn down £20m for Sara from anyone.

[Channon’s Windmill 416]

From a different perspective who do you enjoy watching atm, for me it’s only Sara and Rowe. The rest I couldn’t care less if they all went tomorrow, I have no affinity with them whatsoever. I love my club dearly but not since the Roeder days have we had such a bunch of players who aren’t fit to wear our shirt. 

[TheGunnShow 7,377]

Agree with Hernandez and Gibson. We need more pace at centre-half. If we've got a lumbering carthorse in Duffy who can win nearly all the headers then we're generally not in a bad position when crosses come in, but we need someone who can recover if we have a high line to compress play and make it easier to play through the thirds. Gibson's not that player. Hanley's nearer presuming he's not lost much pace with that bad injury.

Tzolis. He seems to be doing quite well on loan, but some players haven't quite got the physicality to thrive in the Champs. There's definitely a player in there, but he needs a slightly slower league.

I wouldn't be unhappy if a bid came in for one of Giannoulis or McCallum, and as much as I wouldn't want it to be the case, if Lungi's not quite got right with his injuries, he might be close to the last-chance saloon now.

[Indy 3,471]

Not sure apart from Sara, Sargent & Rowe anyone else would be any subject of other teams buying, given the wages and contracts they are on, likely hood Tzolis will make his move permanent as he doesn’t want to be here, Sara will get some interest and it’ll depend on financial requirements to whether we sell or not, as for the rest, seriously any decent offer for any off them I’d not be bothered if they got sold, this isn’t a squad we can call our own! Get them All gone and start again with young or hungry to prove themselves players who are highly motivated to prove a point.

I’d happily send Hwang back, sell Gibson, Duffy, Stacey, Nunez, Fassnacht, Hernandez, Placheta and Tzolis….I’d do everything to build on Sargent, Sainz, Warner, Gibbs, Fisher & Sara, bring back Hanley when fit, keep McLean in and Barnes, for the experience and motivation needed….use the loan market to build on and promote our youth too, look to the future. Realistically we need another 20 points for survival, I can’t see the current dads army journeymen getting any better, so a total overhaul in January to a new direction!

[In my blood 107]

A big task Indy. And not cheap to implement. Think of all the agents rubbing their hands with glee and an added expense that we really can't afford.

For example, a loan for Idah would probably cost more in the long run than just to keep him here. And selling him would be hard unless a big sell on was negotiated ( by his agent!)

How have we come to this incredible dilemma?

[Indy 3,471]

2 minutes ago, In my blood said:

A big task Indy. And not cheap to implement. Think of all the agents rubbing their hands with glee and an added expense that we really can't afford.

For example, a loan for Idah would probably cost more in the long run than just to keep him here. And selling him would be hard unless a big sell on was negotiated ( by his agent!)

How have we come to this incredible dilemma?

Indeed, but to offload those I have said would raise some funds especially Tzolis, bring in the right coaching team to play the younger players and build…..yes my point isn’t going to happen but reality is we wouldn’t miss any of the team that much other than those I’ve said said!

[kenfoggo 261]

Having watched “Welcome to Wrexham” series one and two I am struck by the contrast in their “community club” and ours. Of course Wrexham have Paul Mullin where we have Adam Idah but the whole squad of Wrexham seem to want to run till they drop for each other and the team. Marvellous spirit surrounding their Club. Our bunch of geriatrics cannot be bothered to break sweat even though they are paid multiple times more than any Wrexham player. So all in all I think there has to be a huge clear out of the squad in January to offload all the dross who are just here to make up the numbers , have a lazy time in training , on match day and collect their inflated wages before they slip gently into retirement and obscurity. With the exceptions of Sara and Rowe there is not a single Norwich player that you can hold up as one that you would pay good money to see and who may create something inspirational on the pitch. All the rest are mediocrities who cannot be bothered about the fans, the Club or even their own careers. So a cull is desperately required. Unfortunately the only players who may attract any offers from another Club would be Sara and Rowe, the very two who we would pay to see and who we would like to retain. I think this Club is completely banjaxed. To avoid feeling mugged ,and unless there are sweeping changes , I for one will not be renewing my season ticket.

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

"So a cull is desperately required. Unfortunately the only players who may attract any offers from another Club would be Sara and Rowe, the very two who we would pay to see and who we would like to retain. I think this Club is completely banjaxed. To avoid feeling mugged ,and unless there are sweeping changes , I for one will not be renewing my season ticket."

Which is why I said 'theoretically.' Sargent would also attract interest

 

 

[rock bus 1,059]

It would be far easier for me to list who I'd like to keep!

Ironically that will be the same list that the club are looking to sell - Rowe, Sargent, Sara, Gunn and Hanley.

Other than that I still think Nunez, Gibbs and Sainz could offer something with a decent coach (maybe even Placheta and Tzolis at a push).

The rest can sod off and we should start again with the youth players.

[norfolkngood 1,174]

43 minutes ago, Indy said:

Indeed, but to offload those I have said would raise some funds especially Tzolis, bring in the right coaching team to play the younger players and build…..yes my point isn’t going to happen but reality is we wouldn’t miss any of the team that much other than those I’ve said said!

Exactly far to many senior pros not performing but earning double / treble what a younger player who has so much to prove and potential to become better 

Recruitment is Key and we have got it wrong in many ways 

[Pyro Pete 2,354]

This lot are all out-of-contract next summer:

Dimitrios Giannoulis
Ben Gibson
Sam McCallum
Przemyslaw Placheta
Jacob Lungi Sörensen *
Adam Forshaw *
Danny Batth *
Jon McCracken
Daniel Barden

(asterisk denotes further one-year option)

[Capt. Pants 5,013]

I can't see anyone's contract being renewed or extended so that's 9 gone.

Additionally I'd sell Hernandez, Long, Duffy and Tzolis.

Realistically we all know it will be Rowe, Sara and Sargent who will go.

Potentially 16 going but only 3 will be missed, and this is so why we need a new Head Coach in immediately to oversee this shambles with Knapper.

[Indy 3,471]

Just now, Capt. Pants said:

I can't see anyone's contract being renewed or extended so that's 9 gone.

Additionally I'd sell Hernandez, Long, Duffy and Tzolis.

Realistically we all know it will be Rowe, Sara and Sargent who will go.

Potentially 16 going but only 3 will be missed, and this is so why we need a new Head Coach in immediately to oversee this shambles with Knapper.

McCullum probably if he wants to sign, can’t blame him if he doesn’t! 

[cambridgeshire canary 7,799]

Yes do get the feeling only really Rowe and Sara could fetch millions. Can't really think of anyone else in the squad who would be worth much. Gunn maybe. If it was not for Sargents injury issues maybe him too but that's about it

[Indy 3,471]

3 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Yes do get the feeling only really Rowe and Sara could fetch millions. Can't really think of anyone else in the squad who would be worth much. Gunn maybe. If it was not for Sargents injury issues maybe him too but that's about it

Tzolis, he’s worth four or five I reckon.

[Ulfotto 800]

To be fair Gibson is out of contract at the end of season so he will be easy ship out. Personally think he is a good player who is exposed by the lack of cover in front him.

From the squad perspective we shouldn’t have both PP and Onel we should only have one of them. The same for Dimi and McCallum make a call who is the left back going forward and sort the contract out. Personally I would go McCallum Dimi is a talented player but is essentially a left footed Ivo Pinto. 
 

[Petriix 3,219]

No one is going to buy any of the players we don't want. The wages we pay are far higher than anyone at these players' level could realistically afford. If we want to offload anyone it's going to be mutual agreement or free transfers, often the 'selling' club still has to subsidise the wages for the remainder of the original contract term.

The long contracts given to Hernandez, Idah and McLean come with a significant commitment to pay those high wages for the term. It's very difficult to rebuild against the backdrop of the recent mismanagement of the playing squad. Our best hope surely lies in making the most of what we have with just one or two shrewd acquisitions (CDM anyone?). 

[kenfoggo 261]

Does Wagner and his whole coaching squad qualify as the “squad” we are unloading? Should do.

[Corbs1 167]

It’s a disturbing thought, always believed Roader team was one of the worse for disconnect- actually many in the team I identified with (Adeyemi, Corey, Cody and others). Cannot really say same for current team, very much better paid, but no Cure -ton. 

[Conrad 235]

Nobody will want the players that we don't want and we, for financial reasons, will need to sell the few that we may want to keep. So the answer to the question posed is All Of Them, but for differing reasons.