littleyellowbirdie 2,585 Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, king canary said: It is superficial similarity, so superficial as to be meaningless. You described Wagner as 'the closest to Farke we could get' which is demonstrably nonsense. Really? Who was closer we should have got at the time then? Are you really telling me the fact their squad is 200 million quid and ours is 70 million quid might not be a significant factor in why they ultimately got to grips with us after we got off to a good start? Edited October 21, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,937 Posted October 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, king canary said: It is superficial similarity, so superficial as to be meaningless. You described Wagner as 'the closest to Farke we could get' which is demonstrably nonsense. If you want my advice, king canary, give up fighting with LYB. You will out-think him (not a difficult task) but believe me you will never out-post him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,275 Posted October 21, 2023 It's pitiful that some of our players can't last more than 60 mins. It wasn't as though we were playing a high press, plus Leeds gave us all the time in the world to play out from the back. Wagner is really nothing like Farke, not sure where the hell that notion is coming from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,585 Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, canarybubbles said: If you want my advice, king canary, give up fighting with LYB. You will out-think him (not a difficult task) but believe me you will never out-post him. Okay. Apparently 70 million quid squads can be reasonably expected to be superior to 200 million quid squads all else being equal. You live and learn. Tell Attanassio he's not needed. We don't need more money after all. Bring in the new manager! Edited October 21, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,654 Posted October 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: Really? Who was closer we should have got at the time then? Are you really telling me the fact their squad is 200 million quid and ours is 70 million quid might not be a significant factor in why they ultimately got to grips with us after we got off to a good start? It's good you've realised that you were arguing complete nonsense so have then returned and edited in a second, completely seperate argument to attempt to distract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barham Blitz 658 Posted October 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: Because that's the way the fans want us to play. We got another coach trying to do it a different way, less about fitness, less about being pretty on the eye and more about just getting results. Fans rebelled and we got the closest to Farke we could get. Today, we saw Farke v a guy very similar to Farke. One with a lower prem squad newly relegated and one with a championship squad. The one with the lower premier League squad won. Even though the champ squad made a good go of it they just couldn't sustain it long enough. Shock horror. If you think Wagner is even slightly close to Farke in terms of tactical intention I really do despair. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,585 Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, king canary said: It's good you've realised that you were arguing complete nonsense so have then returned and edited in a second, completely seperate argument to attempt to distract. Good dodge from answering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,654 Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, littleyellowbirdie said: Good dodge from answering. It isn't a dodge though is it? I never said anything about squad values (a point that is obviously totally undermined by our hammering by Plymouth and being outplayed by Coventry who's squads are worth much less than ours but you'll ignore that). You added it in after you'd already posted because you know you're talking utter ****e yet again and literally everyone on this thread can see it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,585 Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, king canary said: It isn't a dodge though is it? I never said anything about squad values (a point that is obviously totally undermined by our hammering by Plymouth and being outplayed by Coventry who's squads are worth much less than ours but you'll ignore that). You added it in after you'd already posted because you know you're talking utter ****e yet again and literally everyone on this thread can see it. Well yes it is. As evidenced by the fact you're still not answering in favour of a sort of 'haha! I've won' pseudo triumphalist approach. Also it was a supplementary afterthought that I added. No big conspiracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Scott 245 Posted October 21, 2023 Plymouth (squad value 18m) 6 Norwich (squad value 70m) 2. All about them squad values...... All the best. Big Keith Scott. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,057 Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, littleyellowbirdie said: Well yes it is. As evidenced by the fact you're still not answering in favour of a sort of 'haha! I've won' pseudo triumphalist approach. Also it was a supplementary afterthought that I added. No big conspiracy. Couldn’t you just look in a mirror and argue with yourself for the next hour? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,585 Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, Midlands Yellow said: Couldn’t you just look in a mirror and argue with yourself for the next hour? Why? It's more fun arguing with other people. (Actually my frequent editing is down to looking at my own stuff and deciding it's not quite what I wanted to express, which kind of is arguing with myself before anyone else gets a chance to). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,654 Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, littleyellowbirdie said: Well yes it is. As evidenced by the fact you're still not answering in favour of a sort of 'haha! I've won' pseudo triumphalist approach. Also it was a supplementary afterthought that I added. No big conspiracy. In answer to your question about who we could have got.... Firstly it's a stupid question because I don't know every single manager in the world and whether they fancied a move to Norwich. But...if we were looking for someone as close to Farke as possible we'd be looking for someone who plays football to dominate possession. So someone like Ian Evatt at Bolton who was known for playing this style of football in League Two with Barrow. Or if you fancied going continental then Garcia Pimienta was at Barca B and is now managing a possession heavy Las Palmas who are doing well. Pascal Jansen was linked very closely with Rangers recently and plays a possession based style with Alkmaar. I'm not saying these guys would have been chomping at the bit to come in and join us. But if the remit was 'lets find someone very similar to Farke' Wagner wouldn't be on that list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,585 Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, king canary said: In answer to your question about who we could have got.... Firstly it's a stupid question because I don't know every single manager in the world and whether they fancied a move to Norwich. But...if we were looking for someone as close to Farke as possible we'd be looking for someone who plays football to dominate possession. So someone like Ian Evatt at Bolton who was known for playing this style of football in League Two with Barrow. Or if you fancied going continental then Garcia Pimienta was at Barca B and is now managing a possession heavy Las Palmas who are doing well. Pascal Jansen was linked very closely with Rangers recently and plays a possession based style with Alkmaar. I'm not saying these guys would have been chomping at the bit to come in and join us. But if the remit was 'lets find someone very similar to Farke' Wagner wouldn't be on that list. Whatever you say. You're the king, after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,654 Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, littleyellowbirdie said: Whatever you say. You're the king, after all. You're an absolute baby. You got all pissy about me 'dodging' your question, I answered it and then you throw off a sarcy comment because you realise you can't actually argue your point. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,585 Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, king canary said: You're an absolute baby. You got all pissy about me 'dodging' your question, I answered it and then you throw off a sarcy comment because you realise you can't actually argue your point. No, I mean it. I bow down before you. Good job! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K Lo 229 Posted October 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Ken Hairy said: It may have yielded those points without the joint worst defence in the league That's my point; there's no excuse for having the joint worst defence in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,359 Posted October 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Canary Wundaboy said: Does anyone have the recipe for humble pie? Happy to bake a whole one so we can share it around at full time, I only need a single slice. 🙄 Well, s***. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,779 Posted October 21, 2023 If we wanted to get someone who likes to play exactly like Farke does and was realistic at that time, we'd have got Russell Martin. Wagner is nothing like Farke, the only positive I can think about Wagner right now is he's not Dean Smith. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,654 Posted October 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: If we wanted to get someone who likes to play exactly like Farke does and was realistic at that time, we'd have got Russell Martin. Wagner is nothing like Farke, the only positive I can think about Wagner right now is he's not Dean Smith. How did I forget Martin? Easily the most obvious Farke style replacement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBaldOne66 697 Posted October 22, 2023 9 hours ago, Nuff Said said: I didn’t watch the match, was busy with family stuff but the result is gutting. However… 1. Who exactly has said “It’s all fine, anyone who doesn’t think we’ll get promoted is clueless”? Quote me anything even close to that from this forum from the last couple of months. 2. “claiming people who think we’d go down are clueless” - every season the miserablists claim this. We’ve been relegated from the PL twice, it happens. But we were still in the Championship last time I looked so “Every season they’re proved wrong” is b0llocks. Moan and whinge if you have to, argue with other posters about why we aren’t doing better, but don’t make sh1t up. Relegated from the Prem twice? If only! We hold the record for most relegations from there ffs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBaldOne66 697 Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, littleyellowbirdie said: Really? Who was closer we should have got at the time then? Are you really telling me the fact their squad is 200 million quid and ours is 70 million quid might not be a significant factor in why they ultimately got to grips with us after we got off to a good start? Our squad is nowhere near worth 70 million quid ffs! The only ones of any real value are Sara, Rowe and Gunn and they aren’t worth more than 35 million combined! Edited October 22, 2023 by TheBaldOne66 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Starr 520 Posted October 22, 2023 Honestly, we would have beaten Leeds yesterday had the main two strikers started for us. Playing Idah is like playing with 10 men. He did one good run with the ball into the corner to waste some time and I can't remember anything from him. The midfield seem to have to over compensate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,580 Posted October 22, 2023 18 hours ago, PurpleCanary said: More generally. What looks like a good appointment as Webber's replacement, the board of directors being freshened up, money coming in as cash and loans, and the prospect of a takeover. At 2-0 I thought of adding that things also seemed fine on the playing side, but decided to hold off, just in case...😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
