Dean Coneys boots 1,406 Posted September 10, 2023 As someone who played 35 seasons of rugby - tackling legs only leads to more not less injuries- knees and boots to the head. New laws are spoiling the game. Yesterday was no malice just a coming together - it was a yellow for not getting low and nothing else- stupid decision to upgrade to red. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 10, 2023 Why not make headgear compulsory? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,987 Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) On 09/09/2023 at 11:52, All the Germans said: I've also been to Twickenham a couple of times, it was always thoroughly enjoyable. Whilst trying to find my entrance, I got lost and and walked into the media area and walked right next to Shane Williams, Lawrence Dallaglio and Martin Bayfield. I have never in my life seen someone as huge as Bayfield, I'm not sure if it was because he was next to Bayfield (but he was also next to Williams!) but I was also a little shocked that Dallaglio wasn't as big as I had expected. John Ruddy stood next to me in the coop once. He was quite large so I dread to think what the rugby players are like. I only watch rugby when it's the world cup and I'm a bit baffled by some of the new rules. I thought it was just an unfortunate clash of heads last night. But England did very well to change their approach, especially the drop goals. Edited September 10, 2023 by dylanisabaddog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,987 Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, cornish sam said: Which is absolute ****. 3.5b viewers for the tour de France? Pull the other one. The article they link to doesn't even mention anything about audience or viewing figures... Would be amazed if union is the second most watched sport (or whatever the claim was) though.... The Tour de France attracts the highest live attendance of any sporting event. Cycling is hugely popular around the world which totally baffles me as most of them seem to be on drugs. Quite impressive really, when I was on drugs I couldn't even find my bike Edited September 10, 2023 by dylanisabaddog 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,987 Posted September 10, 2023 On 09/09/2023 at 09:52, Capt. Pants said: Just going by what they said on 5 Live. I didn't take in how they qualified it, may have been from UK perspective. Here's another view of popularity https://www.roadtrips.com/blog/the-most-watched-sporting-events-in-the-world/ They missed the world snooker final which was watched by 300m in China alone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,467 Posted September 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: They missed the world snooker final which was watched by 300m in China alone Must have been a massive venue 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,277 Posted September 10, 2023 32 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: I only watch rugby when it's the world cup and I'm a bit baffled by some of the new rules. I thought it was just an unfortunate clash of heads last night. But England did very well to change their approach, especially the drop goals. I can't envisage an England football team ever grinding out a performance like that to essentially outplay what most might regard as the better team and with a man down in pretty brutal conditions. Two easier games coming up where hopefully we can get a bit more cohesion on attacking play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,987 Posted September 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said: Must have been a massive venue Apparently you can see it from space! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,800 Posted September 10, 2023 39 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: I can't envisage an England football team ever grinding out a performance like that to essentially outplay what most might regard as the better team and with a man down in pretty brutal conditions. Two easier games coming up where hopefully we can get a bit more cohesion on attacking play. Italy away...in this very qualifying group. Shaw sent off, ground out a 2 - 1 win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,987 Posted September 10, 2023 S Africa very good but a bit naughty with targeting Finn Russell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, dylanisabaddog said: S Africa very good but a bit naughty with targeting Finn Russell Its wha tyou do in rugby.You pick on a player or an area. Kinghorn got everything kicked toward him for the first quarter. Gave SA on stronghold in the Scottish half. And they never left it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 10, 2023 If anyone is watching Wales v Fiji, the Fijian hooker is Sam Matavesi born and raised in and played for Camborne, now with Northampton. His two brothers and him are all top players and three lovely lads with lovely manners and respect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 517 Posted September 10, 2023 I had a few chats and beers with my neighbour Semi Radradra earlier this year. My son and I had a school visit from Luatua. " Hello ,my name is Steve". Very polite. Come on Fiji. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobJames 891 Posted September 10, 2023 5 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: They missed the world snooker final which was watched by 300m in China alone I wonder who counted them, and did they just round up the numbers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 10, 2023 Why do people take babies to sports events. Welsh fan with his baby in his arms. Really? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fen Canary 866 Posted September 10, 2023 11 hours ago, BroadstairsR said: Today's finely honed thoroughbreds that constitute the top-level professional footballer wouldn't last five minutes in a game of Rugby. They'd either pull something, twist something or go off with one strain or the other after no time at all. Different animals I suppose. Likewise those rugby players would be in need of oxygen after 5 minutes playing football, seeing as the game doesn’t stop every 3 minutes for a breather Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,277 Posted September 10, 2023 Wow Wales v Fiji what a game. Rules are rules but Fiji a bit unlucky there I felt. Great defence by Wales. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 519 Posted September 10, 2023 56 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Why do people take babies to sports events. Welsh fan with his baby in his arms. Really? We took our 5 and 3 year old to three events at the 2012 olympics. It was an amazing experience, no sure how much they remember, but they will always be able to say they were there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,987 Posted September 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Fen Canary said: Likewise those rugby players would be in need of oxygen after 5 minutes playing football, seeing as the game doesn’t stop every 3 minutes for a breather A couple of years ago Eddie Jones invited Pep Guardiola to coach the England rugby team for a day. Guardiola is of the view that all team games are essentially the same. To succeed you need to be extremely fit, never stand still and move the ball quickly and accurately. The England players didn't cope well. Having seen S Africa yesterday it seems they've got the message. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,205 Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) If this tournament continues as it has started we are in for a treat, particularly as some of the "lesser" nations have come on so much that the gap between them and the big boys seems to have narrowed a lot. I especially single out Fiji, whilst the exception is Argentina ... unless England have suddenly come together and pitched themselves amongst the favourites. Ireland or SA for me. Edited September 11, 2023 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerationA47 758 Posted September 11, 2023 22 hours ago, Trevor Hockey's Beard said: Tackling below the waste really doesn't leave much of a target, does it - it's legs only. Erm, and er, tackle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerationA47 758 Posted September 11, 2023 2 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: A couple of years ago Eddie Jones invited Pep Guardiola to coach the England rugby team for a day. Guardiola is of the view that all team games are essentially the same. To succeed you need to be extremely fit, never stand still and move the ball quickly and accurately. The England players didn't cope well. Having seen S Africa yesterday it seems they've got the message. Today’s headlines suggest England’s rugby team have sworn off booze for the rest of the competition. Innovative stuff, for professional athletes in their most prestigious international contest, to avoid taking a mildly poisonous performance reducing substance 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 11, 2023 3 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: A couple of years ago Eddie Jones invited Pep Guardiola to coach the England rugby team for a day. Guardiola is of the view that all team games are essentially the same. To succeed you need to be extremely fit, never stand still and move the ball quickly and accurately. The England players didn't cope well. Having seen S Africa yesterday it seems they've got the message. Rugby needs a different type of fitness. The modern forward will only be on the pitch for 50 60 minutes and as has been said, there are periods when the game stops. But if anyone really thinks being in a scrum or a maul is a piece of cake then step forward. The energy it takes to use your body to overcome your opponent and then get up and chase after someone else needs a totally different fitness. I know its only ignorance about the game that has prompted these inaccurate statements. The games are totally different and comparison is unwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 11, 2023 11 hours ago, Capt. Pants said: Wow Wales v Fiji what a game. Rules are rules but Fiji a bit unlucky there I felt. Great defence by Wales. Ref a bit unfair. Welsh player offside at a ruck on his own line twice in a minute and just gets a warning. Fijian drops a maul and is yellow carded. Seems football isn't the only sport where the refereeing is inconsistent. Thought Wales were dead lucky and got the bounce of the ball, especially in the last minute. Three head clashes so far and three different outcomes because of interpretation. You shouldn't be able to interpret the rules or laws of the game. But a great start to the competition and some wonderful play especially that SA try. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 11, 2023 11 hours ago, Newtopia said: We took our 5 and 3 year old to three events at the 2012 olympics. It was an amazing experience, no sure how much they remember, but they will always be able to say they were there. I took my boys to Carrow Road when they were very young. But to witness a supporter stood up with a tiny baby in a papoose seemed a bit bizarre. Can you imagine changing a nappy on the seats at CR? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,987 Posted September 11, 2023 48 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Rugby needs a different type of fitness. The modern forward will only be on the pitch for 50 60 minutes and as has been said, there are periods when the game stops. But if anyone really thinks being in a scrum or a maul is a piece of cake then step forward. The energy it takes to use your body to overcome your opponent and then get up and chase after someone else needs a totally different fitness. I know its only ignorance about the game that has prompted these inaccurate statements. The games are totally different and comparison is unwise. Obviously the games are different but the difference between S Africa and England is noticeable. The Africans forwards are big but they move around the pitch much quicker and as Finn Russell found out, they don't give you any time at all. They seem to have taken the game to a different level as regards fitness, strength and mobility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,449 Posted September 11, 2023 12 hours ago, Capt. Pants said: Wow Wales v Fiji what a game. Rules are rules but Fiji a bit unlucky there I felt. Great defence by Wales. Wales really started to take the **** with their timewasting, thankfully the ref was wise to it and stopped the clock (hmm, that were easy why can't they do it in football?). I do think however the ref should have produced at least one yellow, if not two, instead of giving two "final" warnings to the welsh backs, it was not great defence it was "dirty" defence. That would have been appropriate in my view and Fiji would then have not been unlucky (or is that cheated?). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: Obviously the games are different but the difference between S Africa and England is noticeable. The Africans forwards are big but they move around the pitch much quicker and as Finn Russell found out, they don't give you any time at all. They seem to have taken the game to a different level as regards fitness, strength and mobility. Simply because they are better players who are coached better. And one thing that has helped them is the emergence of hungry young black players who had to coach themselves before Mandela. Their raw talent combined with the great coaching they get now has unearthed a Springbok squad that can combine the strength of its forwards with some fresh ideas from the backs. The powerhouse of the side Kolisi and the sheer bloody mindedness of Etzebet, Marx and De Klerk means you will find it hard to be them psychologically. Its in their DNA. They love beating up on other players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerationA47 758 Posted September 11, 2023 3 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: Rugby needs a different type of fitness. The modern forward will only be on the pitch for 50 60 minutes and as has been said, there are periods when the game stops. But if anyone really thinks being in a scrum or a maul is a piece of cake then step forward. The energy it takes to use your body to overcome your opponent and then get up and chase after someone else needs a totally different fitness. I know it’s only ignorance about the game that has prompted these inaccurate statements. The games are totally different and comparison is unwise. That cuts both ways… What you deem to be ignorance is actually a point rightly raised to counter someone’s cheap “soft footballers wouldn’t last long playing rugby” jibe. They wouldn’t, because of course they don’t have to, each set of athletes have body types and training to suit their own specialism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Hockey's Beard 528 Posted September 11, 2023 4 hours ago, GenerationA47 said: Erm, and er, tackle I was merely attempting a poor gag, in that the original post had been autocorrected from "waist" to "waste", suggesting that tackling was from the Gluteous maximus downwards. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites