David Wagner

[Keith Scott 245]

Really any better than Dean Smith?

Farke lite?

Webber Out.

All the best.

Big Keith Scott.

[Michael Starr 522]

The issues with the players aren't really down to the coaching right now. I'd say it's more down to a lack of ability and / or confidence

[cambridgeshire canary 6,833]

Webbers best mate, not going anywhere regardless.

[Capt. Pants 4,298]

9 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Webbers best mate, not going anywhere regardless.

You said that about Smith.

Wagner is on a 12 mth rolling contract. Easy to get shot of.

[GodlyOtsemobor 2,421]

🥱🥱🥱🥱

 

He needs a summer/pre season to mould a team. If after 10 games next season nothing's changed then fine. 

[Kenny Foggo 1,116]

Pointless sacking another manager when the people that appoint them are still here. 

[Channon’s Windmill 335]

Not impressed with the team selection today. Why can’t he see that playing Sargent anywhere other than up front alone doesn’t work. Lungi should have been kept in midfield, Gibbs further forward and Warner brought in alongside Omo. Pukki needs to be on the bench until the end of the season as trying to fit him in to this 11 doesn’t work. As to both Hayden and Byram on the bench but not really fit???? Surely we have some players in the Academy that are at least fit if called upon? 

[yellowrider120 793]

10 minutes ago, Channon’s Windmill said:

Not impressed with the team selection today. Why can’t he see that playing Sargent anywhere other than up front alone doesn’t work. Lungi should have been kept in midfield, Gibbs further forward and Warner brought in alongside Omo. Pukki needs to be on the bench until the end of the season as trying to fit him in to this 11 doesn’t work. As to both Hayden and Byram on the bench but not really fit???? Surely we have some players in the Academy that are at least fit if called upon? 

Totally agree with this. Wagner 'rates' the U23 skipper apparently so this was the opportunity to play him. Instead he unhinges the midfield when he should have played a square peg in a square hole! 

[Commonsense 651]

6 hours ago, Keith Scott said:

Really any better than Dean Smith?

Farke lite?

Webber Out.

All the best.

Big Keith Scott.

You’re back. So is the Real Buh. Have you been let out on day release?

[Captain Holt 522]

14 hours ago, Keith Scott said:

Really any better than Dean Smith?

Farke lite?

Webber Out.

All the best.

Big Keith Scott.

Not convinced, wasn't on appointment. An appointment based on a period of success 6 years ago with abject failures everywhere since. Its a bit Lambert at Ipswich for me.

[hogesar 9,766]

13 hours ago, Channon’s Windmill said:

Not impressed with the team selection today. Why can’t he see that playing Sargent anywhere other than up front alone doesn’t work. Lungi should have been kept in midfield, Gibbs further forward and Warner brought in alongside Omo. Pukki needs to be on the bench until the end of the season as trying to fit him in to this 11 doesn’t work. As to both Hayden and Byram on the bench but not really fit???? Surely we have some players in the Academy that are at least fit if called upon? 

This is a bit lazy though. We have no idea how good Warner is, or if he's ready. Fans always call for "just shove in some academy lads, whats the worst that can happen" but the fact that every club up and down the country avoids doing this until they believe the players are ready probably tells you something.

[Robert N. LiM 4,545]

6 minutes ago, hogesar said:

This is a bit lazy though. We have no idea how good Warner is, or if he's ready. Fans always call for "just shove in some academy lads, whats the worst that can happen" but the fact that every club up and down the country avoids doing this until they believe the players are ready probably tells you something.

Yes, don't see that Wagner had much choice with the starting line-up. Happy to trust his judgment about whether one of our academy boys is ready for the first team. It's an underappreciated part of the coach's job to look after them, to introduce them at the right time and not stall their development.

What I was more puzzled by was the subs yesterday. We were playing ok, and in total control of the game. We just needed to take a chance. Flinging on all our attacking players from the bench, none of whom are an improvement on what was already on the pitch, seemed a bit desperate to me, and the last fifteen minutes were easily our worst part of the game, just when we should have been taking advantage of a tiring opposition who'd been chasing the ball all game.

[Capt. Pants 4,298]

If we had squeezed past Rotheram 1-0 then (most) on here would have said it was a good result bearing in mind our injury crisis.

I'm more disappointed by the alarming lack of quality from our so called attacking player. Pukki misses a relatively easy chance, Tzolis misses 2, Idah gets the ball stuck under his feet, Sargent was anonymous.

It's deeply worrying for next season.

You can't blame Wagner for this rather poor collection of players.

[Robert N. LiM 4,545]

1 minute ago, Capt. Pants said:

I'm more disappointed by the alarming lack of quality from our so called attacking player. Pukki misses a relatively easy chance, Tzolis misses 2, Idah gets the ball stuck under his feet, Sargent was anonymous.

This. We played well enough from box-to-box to win the game easily. Our strikers were just totally off it. It is a big concern.

[Michael Starr 522]

I think we can all agree that Hugill was never the answer. He was well marshalled out the game by Sorensen and Big Andy

[Danke bitte 967]

52 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

This. We played well enough from box-to-box to win the game easily. Our strikers were just totally off it. It is a big concern.

I don’t count Idah who just hasn’t kicked on like we all thought he would and Sargent has been average this season and maybe that’s just his level.

Are either the out and out answer, probably not. 

To say we need two new strikers next season is an understatement but equally we don’t have a flair player to feed them which is another issue entirely. 

For a club that has no money we really don’t succession plan particularly well do we?!

[TheGunnShow 6,023]

27 minutes ago, Danke bitte said:

I don’t count Idah who just hasn’t kicked on like we all thought he would and Sargent has been average this season and maybe that’s just his level.

Are either the out and out answer, probably not. 

To say we need two new strikers next season is an understatement but equally we don’t have a flair player to feed them which is another issue entirely. 

For a club that has no money we really don’t succession plan particularly well do we?!

Possibly an argument that the two main flair players are Nunez and Dowell and they were also out. Chuck in the fact that we had Gibson, Hanley and McLean out too and that's quite an injury issue at the back end of the season involving pretty much the spine of the team.

We were alright yesterday until we got near their goal.

[Bovril 221]

Defensively in this league we've been fine all season. No team has hammered us score-line wise (as reflected by our goal difference) and the only team who looked miles better than us was Burnley at home. We could play the U18's at the back and still stand a chance. It's the attacking play that is the huge issue. 

Idah, Tzolis, Nunez, Marquinhos all nowhere near good enough for the top end of this league which is alarming. 

Pukki is way-off it and is going so no point starting him. Sargent runs and runs and is trying his hardest but needs to play up top by himself as everyone else knows. 

We either need a true No. 10 or a half-decent winger to compete right at the top. Onel, Sara, Sargent can all play a part. 

Edited April 11, 2023 by Bovril

[Danke bitte 967]

12 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

Possibly an argument that the two main flair players are Nunez and Dowell and they were also out. Chuck in the fact that we had Gibson, Hanley and McLean out too and that's quite an injury issue at the back end of the season involving pretty much the spine of the team.

We were alright yesterday until we got near their goal.

I think we’ve just been very very spoiled with creatives in Hoolahan, Pritchard, Maddison… that bloke from South America whose name escapes me… ;  )

And for me Dowell and Nunez just don’t compare. Maybe I’m being harsh here but the aforementioned could pull a rabbit out of thin air im not convinced Dowell / Nunez can as regularly 

[yellowrider120 793]

2 hours ago, hogesar said:

This is a bit lazy though. We have no idea how good Warner is, or if he's ready. Fans always call for "just shove in some academy lads, whats the worst that can happen" but the fact that every club up and down the country avoids doing this until they believe the players are ready probably tells you something.

True but also not (if that make sense). Weaver travelled with the squad to Blackburn in case Argos had to call off with injury so the manager MUST deem him 'ok' for first team football surely?

The problem with Wagners team selection yesterday was that by moving Sorenson back he then unhinged the midfield and forward line for no reason. He effectively brought in Pukki for Sorenson (at least as far as numbers are concerned) as there was no remaining fit midfielder available.  Sara and Gibbs both looked unsure of their positions whilst Sargent was shunted around (again) to make space for Pukki who has totally lost form! Had he simply replaced the two injured centre halves with fit centre halves then he could have stuck with the same midfield / forward line that did the business v Blackburn. Now that may not have made any difference to the result v Rotherham or performance but it sure didn't help!