unique 439 Posted May 25, 2022 2021/22 Season Maddison 2454 minutes played 12 goals 11 assists Buendia 1887 minutes played 4 goals 6 assists Rashica, Lees-Melou, McLean, Norman, Gilmour, Dowell, Rupp, Placheta, Tzolis, Rowe……collectively…. 13388 minutes played 5 goals 9 assists Did I read somewhere that DS believes there are far more goals to come out of this squad? Is this the most feeble group of midfielders ever assembled by a PL team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hertfordyellow 460 Posted May 25, 2022 Great. Another self-flagellation topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Edwards 2,255 Posted May 25, 2022 We finished bottom of the league with a minus 61 goal difference, honestly, you don’t need to go looking for any other ways of saying “we were shìt”; it’s patently obvious. 😉👍 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,199 Posted May 25, 2022 On the plus side our Expected Celebrities (XC) was 276% above the median for the Premier League. 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,762 Posted May 25, 2022 Feel that infamous Derby side would give them a run for their money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,711 Posted May 25, 2022 I'd like to think it's pretty wrong for a Norwich fan to invest time into finding another way to demonstrate how bad their own side is. But then we'd have a very inactive forum. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 439 Posted May 25, 2022 47 minutes ago, hertfordyellow said: Great. Another self-flagellation topic. I think the season deserves it. Even worse is a transfer and rumour thread…….so full of misplaced hope and misguided optimism….. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,471 Posted May 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, unique said: I think the season deserves it. Even worse is a transfer and rumour thread…….so full of misplaced hope and misguided optimism….. Bet you're the life and soul of every party, aren't you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, unique said: 2021/22 Season Maddison 2454 minutes played 12 goals 11 assists Buendia 1887 minutes played 4 goals 6 assists Rashica, Lees-Melou, McLean, Norman, Gilmour, Dowell, Rupp, Placheta, Tzolis, Rowe……collectively…. 13388 minutes played 5 goals 9 assists Did I read somewhere that DS believes there are far more goals to come out of this squad? Is this the most feeble group of midfielders ever assembled by a PL team? This is, of course, a seriously flawed statistical "analysis". For it to begin to be relevant you would need to total all the returns from every Villa midfielder, ditto every Leicester midfielder (goals per minutes would probably significantly change). But then, I don't think you really intended this to be overly serious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inch High aka Inchy.. 409 Posted May 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Terminally Yellow said: Bet you're the life and soul of every party, aren't you? Is that the best you can do? The season we've just endured and you still have no better argument other than insults. noun: forum; plural noun: forums; plural noun: fora 1.a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged. Offering your opposing view would be a bit more appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 439 Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, horsefly said: This is, of course, a seriously flawed statistical "analysis". For it to begin to be relevant you would need to total all the returns from every Villa midfielder, ditto every Leicester midfielder (goals per minutes would probably significantly change). But then, I don't think you really intended this to be overly serious. Are you for real? You want Barnes, Tielemans, Lookman, Coutinho, Ramsey, McGinn etc brought into the equation? Best not go there…… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted May 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, unique said: Are you for real? You want Barnes, Tielemans, Lookman, Coutinho, Ramsey, McGinn etc brought into the equation? Best not go there…… I was talking about your stats. Either you want them to be accurate or you don't. You clearly don't, but of course the point of your post was only really concerned with finding something to bash the club with, as others have pointed out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 856 Posted May 25, 2022 5 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Feel that infamous Derby side would give them a run for their money When we get promoted next season, then we'll give that Derby side a run for its money! 9 points anyone! Riches to rags indeed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,827 Posted May 25, 2022 5 hours ago, hogesar said: I'd like to think it's pretty wrong for a Norwich fan to invest time into finding another way to demonstrate how bad their own side is. But then we'd have a very inactive forum. I did that yesterday inadvertently; I read an article that Michael Bailey published on The Athletic and some of the statistics genuinely made me think that we were worse than I thought last season. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 439 Posted May 25, 2022 4 hours ago, horsefly said: I was talking about your stats. Either you want them to be accurate or you don't. You clearly don't, but of course the point of your post was only really concerned with finding something to bash the club with, as others have pointed out. The stats are accurate. They show that our entire midfield contributed a tad more in goals and assists than Buendia on his own, and nowhere near as many as James Maddison. Hence the headline. DS has stated, I understand, that his current squad have more goals in them. I beg to differ. As for finding something to bash the club with? The last year in the life of NCFC doesn’t leave room for much else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,435 Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) Poster says how cràp the season is . More posters say how cràp the poster is . Then a few more posters will be along to say they are slightly less cràp than other posters , and whatever happens we should be grateful because we aren’t Burnley who will definitely be really cràp next season . I think that covers it? Edited May 25, 2022 by Graham Paddons Beard 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,471 Posted May 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Graham Paddons Beard said: Poster says how cràp the season is . More posters say how cràp the poster is . Then a few more posters will be along to say they are slightly less cràp than other posters , and whatever happens we should be grateful because we aren’t Burnley who will definitely by really cràp next season . I think that covers it? The amount of work to find how to post a letter with an accent above just for the word crap. Admirable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naturalcynic 642 Posted May 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Terminally Yellow said: The amount of work to find how to post a letter with an accent above just for the word crap. Admirable. Doesn’t take long on an iPad: ãåàáäâæ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,435 Posted May 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Terminally Yellow said: The amount of work to find how to post a letter with an accent above just for the word crap. Admirable. Dôddlè èàśŷ pëášŷ. You should try it . V therapeutic 😴 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,155 Posted May 25, 2022 8 hours ago, unique said: I think the season deserves it. Even worse is a transfer and rumour thread…….so full of misplaced hope and misguided optimism….. Have you ever looked at TWTD? 🤔 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,155 Posted May 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, Graham Paddons Beard said: Poster says how cràp the season is . More posters say how cràp the poster is . Then a few more posters will be along to say they are slightly less cràp than other posters , and whatever happens we should be grateful because we aren’t Burnley who will definitely by really cràp next season . I think that covers it? I’ll think I’ll just read this post every few days until the next season starts and not bother with the rest of the forum. Will probably save me a couple of days of wasted time. Perhaps you could do another succinct summary for the “our signings are crap; give them a chance; no, they’re definitely not showing the ambition of [insert rival name here]” transfer threads too GPB? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted May 26, 2022 11 hours ago, unique said: The stats are accurate. They show that our entire midfield contributed a tad more in goals and assists than Buendia on his own, and nowhere near as many as James Maddison. Hence the headline. DS has stated, I understand, that his current squad have more goals in them. I beg to differ. As for finding something to bash the club with? The last year in the life of NCFC doesn’t leave room for much else. Nope! Your stats are farcical, not because they not individually inaccurate but, because you are not comparing like with like. It's the easiest game in the world to select stats to prove whatever you want. As a wise man once said, "He uses statistics like a drunk uses a lamppost, for support rather than illumination". Kalvin Phillips scored 1 goal this season so obviously he's rubbish compared to Maddison, Ollie Skipp didn't score any, so he must be really sh*ite. No one is denying we had a crap season, but making anomalous statistical comparisons is not remotely helpful. I think we have all worked out that not enough goals were scored from midfield, without the need to compare our players with Maddison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites