Striving to make sense of the Ukraine war

[cambridgeshire canary 6,800]

I love living in major historical events.

Can't wait to watch Putin get dragged out of the Kremlin and get hanged on a lamppost by his own people 

Edited June 24, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary

[Herman 9,825]

Good to see history repeating itself. Marvelous. Bollox to Russia. 

[littleyellowbirdie 2,595]

I've got to say, this is massively entertaining. For years, Putin relied on mercenary forces rather than the military to destabilise other places while keeping deniability. Now Russia's generals are begging those same mercenaries to 'obey the will of the elected President' as those mercenaries take on the Russian army.

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

[The Real Buh 3,480]

Putin delivered the message from a very clear green screen

This is guy is nowhere near Moscow, this guy is running right now lol

[KiwiScot 1,460]

1 hour ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

I love living in major historical events.

May you live in interesting times.

[TheGunnShow 6,002]

1 hour ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

I love living in major historical events.

Can't wait to watch Putin get dragged out of the Kremlin and get hanged on a lamppost by his own people 

Still think my favourite one was when Slobodan Milosevic was overthrown in Serbia. It spoke volumes that hooligans from Red Star Belgrade AND Partizan Belgrade sorta joined forces to protest. Even more biting, considering the history of suicide in the Milosevic family, was the regular shout of "DO SERBIA A FAVOUR, MILOSEVIC, AND KILL YOURSELF!"

Think you can say they were not messing around.

[KiwiScot 1,460]

I don't see this as affecting the Ukrainian offensive in the short term as the defensive positions will be already made, but it will certaintly limit Russians ability to mobilise and re-inforce in the medium term.

[KiwiScot 1,460]

1 minute ago, TheGunnShow said:

Still think my favourite one was when Slobodan Milosevic was overthrown in Serbia. It spoke volumes that hooligans from Red Star Belgrade AND Partizan Belgrade sorta joined forces to protest. Even more biting, considering the history of suicide in the Milosevic family, was the regular shout of "DO SERBIA A FAVOUR, MILOSEVIC, AND KILL YOURSELF!"

Think you can say they were not messing around.

If only that was Blairs only war eh.

[TheGunnShow 6,002]

Just now, KiwiScot said:

If only that was Blairs only war eh.

Shame we weren't shouting something similar at Boris Johnson.

[The Real Buh 3,480]

This is over lads. I said at the start this war would end within Russia.

Who will offer Putin exile? China?

[cambridgeshire canary 6,800]

 

[The Real Buh 3,480]

2 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

 

“I don’t mind a coup but could you try and be less messy please!”

 

[A Load of Squit 5,221]

49 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

This is over lads. I said at the start this war would end within Russia.

Who will offer Putin exile? China?

His got his own rooms at Mar-a-Largo, they have an en-suite bathroom/box storage facility.

[dylanisabaddog 4,987]

49 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

This is over lads. I said at the start this war would end within Russia.

Who will offer Putin exile? China?

We would probably give him a place in the House of Lords if he paid enough. 

[The Real Buh 3,480]

2 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said:

We would probably give him a place in the House of Lords if he paid enough. 

In all seriousness, International arrest warrant out for Putin from The Hague. 
 

The fact that his message is a green screen so he’s either in a bunker or on the move from Moscow. Exit plan in effect. Will be Interesting to see if anyone offers him asylum

[The Real Buh 3,480]

Apparently the M4 linking Rostov and Moscow has been closed because of an ongoing military coup

and the M4 in England has been closed because somebody is doing their practical exam for their “putting out cones for no reason” NVQ

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Its being reported Lukashenko has fled Belarus and I wouldn't be surprised to see a coup there. I think that would have an effect on Russia and there might well end up being demonstrations on the streets.

[The Real Buh 3,480]

10 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Its being reported Lukashenko has fled Belarus and I wouldn't be surprised to see a coup there. I think that would have an effect on Russia and there might well end up being demonstrations on the streets.

That part of the world is all about projection of strength.

Putin and the chubby Belarus fella have had their strength questioned

very dangerous time as this plays out

[dylanisabaddog 4,987]

14 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

That part of the world is all about projection of strength.

Putin and the chubby Belarus fella have had their strength questioned

very dangerous time as this plays out

Very dangerous indeed. 

The (almost) funny thing about it is that the people Putin needs to protect him are either dead or, if alive, somewhere in Ukraine. 

[The Real Buh 3,480]

1 minute ago, dylanisabaddog said:

Very dangerous indeed. 

The (almost) funny thing about it is that the people Putin needs to protect him are either dead or, if alive, somewhere in Ukraine. 

There’s lots of guns to a lot of peoples heads in Russia. Key is keeping Ukraine chill while this is going on. Don’t interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.

[ricardo 7,401]

Vorenezh oil depot on fire.

[The Real Buh 3,480]

Just now, ricardo said:

Vorenezh oil depot on fire.

Wagner can’t just hang around and wait to get sieged, they have to push on.

I don’t imagine they’ll encounter much resistance from regular Russian forces

The siege of Moscow is on, if there’s any British nationals there right now they should get out ASAP, always love the guys that just hang around in a war zone then demand an evacuation 

[littleyellowbirdie 2,595]

2 hours ago, KiwiScot said:

If only that was Blairs only war eh.

Yeah, but, was Blair taking us into a war initiated by us without a UN mandate really that bad, even given that he did oversee a doctored intelligence report and Chilcott was of the opinion that Blair 'hadn't been straight with the British people' to take us into it? It can't be if he can still come and go from parliament as he pleases as an ex PM...

[KiwiScot 1,460]

56 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

always love the guys that just hang around in a war zone then demand an evacuation

with their dogs.

[The Real Buh 3,480]

1 minute ago, KiwiScot said:

with their dogs.

Yeah that dude lol

Theres always a load of idiots that are left behind, like they didn’t see it coming.

Lets face it, if you are British right now and in Moscow you are either a) some sort of consulate staff/a spy or b) into some pretty dodgey stuff

[ricardo 7,401]

Twitter rumours that Russian units joining Wagner as they drive north of Vorenezh towards  Moscow.

[Yellow Fever 3,834]

I think we in the west and Ukraine need to be very alert. A lot of very irrational things can happen when people or regimes are cornered. They can lash out to change the rules of the game.

[How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,192]

As much fun as it is to see Putin under pressure, we need to be wary of what sort of character replaces him, should it come to that 

[dylanisabaddog 4,987]

Russia is on the brink of civil war and Radio 5 has live commentary of a ladies cricket match attended by 4,000 people. It beggars belief. 

[ricardo 7,401]

There are over 50 thousand people on Flight Tracker, following RSD629 from Moscow to St Petersburg.

Transponder now switched off. Its a Russian VIP plane on which Putin usually travels. 

Edited June 24, 2023 by ricardo